My cats have never been out

On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:51:21 -0700, bookie wrote:

On 19 Jun, 20:16, "cybercat" wrote:
"Spot" wrote in message

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Do NOT let them out. Why would you risk their lives now?

The same reason anyone would. Sheer stupidity.

and you knwo what about the situation for domestic cats in the UK? oh
yes NOTHING! the vast majority of cat slaves allow their cats access to
the outside and again the vast majority of these animals are safe, we do
not have all these savage wild predators that people have in other
countries who may go for our cats, and most learn to be streetwise quite
quickly in the same that kids do (or they squished i suppose cats and
kids).

I was on the mainland for a couple of weeks and I saw a number of dead
cats on the roads.

I acquired my cat because he was lying in the middle of the road after
being injured by a car. I keep him inside, and he is the picture of
contentment. Once in awhile I let him out when I'm there to keep a sharp
eye on him. I wish I had kept a sharper eye on my dog, because she got
killed. Now my cat is all I have left, and I value him too much to let
him run around outside with speeding cars and punks with BB guns and
various other hazards.

Charlie

bookie wrote:
Ripped my curtains to shreds, knocked everything of the top of the
cupboards (you know, the space between the ceiling and the top of the
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don't leave, they are generally ****s who abuse you for allowing your
cat to go otuside (as nature requires). Just because you do not allow
your paranoid fear of everythign outdoors stops you from allowing your
cat to have a decent and fulfilled outdoors does not mean they have
the right to abuse you

**** 'em basically
when you cat was going stir crazy indoors, as most cats would, you did
the right things and allowed him access outside, you did not 'boot him
out' as one of the cretins above has stated (how much can these peolpe
get the wrong end fo thestick?) you just allowed him access to the
outside, same as i do for mine because they are used to the outside
and I believe and feel that it would be downright cruel to keep them
in when they are crying to get out

just ignore them, they are a bunch of screwed up narrow minded
witches, who won't accept that other people have different opinions or
way of life to them, typical yanks
bookie

Give us a break from this incessant & becoming-very-boring rant against
everything & everyone in the US - you know those Yanks you profess to hate so-
o-o-o-o-o-o much! No, I'm not a Yank & I'm also not a Brit - I'm one of
those from the former colonies - the one where one of your precious princes
is playing big bad boy soldier. Anyone, on a calmer note, everyone is
entitled to their own view & opinion without being personally attacked for
their view. And you're a teacher, right? I sure hope this isn't the way you
handle 'discussions' in class with those who have different opinions.

BTW, my cats from 1970 through 2003 did go outside in the daytime in the warm
months April - October, but there were no dogs running loose in the
neighborhood & I was younger & more limber. My present cats don't go out
because there's now many large dogs running free & it's no longer so easy for
me to jump fences chasing Coco who in his 1st year here did NOT come back &
we often had to go after him.
M.

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sheelagh wrote:

If I were you, I would take Barbs advice and invest in a pair of reins
from some where like Pets @ Home

Reins are pretty useful if you are going to ride him. :-)

-mhd

"bookie" wrote in message
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On 20 Jun, 00:33, Patty wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:40:41 -0500, Lynne wrote:
on Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:37:19 GMT, Patty wrote:

Ripped my curtains to shreds, knocked everything of the top of the
cupboards (you know, the space between the ceiling and the top of the
kitchen cupboard?), knocked anything on a flat surface off breaking
many items (even the top of the refrigerator). When I came home from
work one day and found him dangling from the top of the curtain rod in
the living room (the windows are nearly ceiling height, (I live in an
old home and the ceilings are 9 feet off the floor),

And by the way, I recommend that you never get another kitten. Stick
to
adult cats. None of the above sounds unusual to me...

Now had you put away the breakables and trimmed his nails, you could
have
saved some of your prized possessions. To toss him outdoors for being
a
kitten and then call him 'fixed' is just illogical as hell.

Yes, and in this newsgroup your opinion is the only one that should be
followed.

Patty
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don't leave, they are generally ****s who abuse you for allowing your
cat to go otuside (as nature requires). Just because you do not allow
your paranoid fear of everythign outdoors stops you from allowing your
cat to have a decent and fulfilled outdoors does not mean they have
the right to abuse you

**** 'em basically
when you cat was going stir crazy indoors, as most cats would, you did
the right things and allowed him access outside, you did not 'boot him
out' as one of the cretins above has stated (how much can these peolpe
get the wrong end fo thestick?) you just allowed him access to the
outside, same as i do for mine because they are used to the outside
and I believe and feel that it would be downright cruel to keep them
in when they are crying to get out

just ignore them, they are a bunch of screwed up narrow minded
witches, who won't accept that other people have different opinions or
way of life to them, typical yanks
bookie


You know, Bookie, you keep rattling on about how narrow minded we are and
about how we won't accept anyone else's opinions -- but I really can't think
of anyone who has displayed that tendency more strongly than you have. I
don't know what has happened to cause you to have such contempt and hatred
(and possibly envy) of everything American, but you are simply placing *your
own* narrow minded views on display. I have never felt the type of
antagonism you exhibit for *any* group -- no nationality, race, ethnicity,
or religion -- and I surely hope I never do. It's really a sad commentary
on your life. You have already told us that none of us are worthy for you
to wipe your feet on. But, then, why would we want to aspire to that
pinnacle? And, for that matter, why would want to wipe your feet on anyone?
Why not sit down and read your own words, then see how they must sound to
others (and not just to Americans). I have many friends of different
nationalities, but you seem to have the most warped sense of the world of
anyone I have come in contact with. Surely you know better than to think
that everyone in the U.S. favors our foreign policy or that we are all such
disgusting slugs as you seem to think.

MaryL

On Jun 19, 7:35 am, *carmen* wrote:
Hi there
I have two cats, 4 and 5 years old who have always lived inside in a
flat. Now we have moved to a house with garden and a forest behind and
we were so looking forwards to leave the cats to enjoy.. but I am
scared they panic or get lost or a bigger aninmal attacks them (or
them attacking a bigger animal) ... Any suggestions?
thanks
Carmen

Don't know about older cats but I got my pussy at 8 weeks and she's
been an outside cat for over a year now. She only comes in to sleep
with me. After exploring all parts of the house she has decided she
rather spend most of her time outdoors. Even when it's freezing cold
or boiling hot outside she prefers the outdoor.

There were times when she was young that worried me when she first ran
across the street and when she didn't come home at night. I have a
fenced in back yard so she was confined till she learned to climb over
the fence. By that time she knew me and where home was and know her
way home.

Lost cats probably were always locked up inside and wouldn't recognise
their own house from the outside.

I don't worry about her any more because I feel she's smart enough to
take care of herself. Of course it's possible she might get hit by a
car. It's also possible I might get hit by a car but I'm not going to
give up driving or crossing streets when walking.

On 20 Jun, 05:12, wrote:
sheelagh wrote:
If I were you, I would take Barbs advice and invest in a pair of reins
from some where like Pets @ Home

Reins are pretty useful if you are going to ride him. :-)

-mhd

Thank you and everyone for the advise. I am actually impressed.
Last night when we got home we built the fence. There was one before
but "only" about 1.70 m. Phoebe the wee cat went flying over it the
other day. I don't know how could she do that as I said, she has live
indoors all her life.
it was agony to look for her but she could not care less when we found
her. Too brave for so little.
Now they have tested it they meaow all the time asking to go out.
Before they did no have a problem apart that Patrick is bored inside
and goes bulimic. He needs out I think.
By the way we live in Scotland.
Carmen

"*carmen*" wrote in message
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Thank you and everyone for the advise. I am actually impressed.
Last night when we got home we built the fence. There was one before
but "only" about 1.70 m. Phoebe the wee cat went flying over it the
other day. I don't know how could she do that as I said, she has live
indoors all her life.
it was agony to look for her but she could not care less when we found
her. Too brave for so little.
Now they have tested it they meaow all the time asking to go out.
Before they did no have a problem apart that Patrick is bored inside
and goes bulimic. He needs out I think.
By the way we live in Scotland.
Carmen


It sounds nice. You should post some pictures for us. I'm not surprised
that your indoor cat could go flying like that. Holly (12 years old) leaps
to the mantel with no problem at all.

MaryL

"*carmen*" wrote in message
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Hi there
I have two cats, 4 and 5 years old who have always lived inside in a
flat. Now we have moved to a house with garden and a forest behind and
we were so looking forwards to leave the cats to enjoy.. but I am
scared they panic or get lost or a bigger aninmal attacks them (or
them attacking a bigger animal) ... Any suggestions?

Yeah -- don't let them out. Cats don't enjoy being maimed or killed. Nor do
the owners who supposedly love them.

Either buy a harness and leash and walk with the cats, or build a solid
outdoor enclosure for them.

"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
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"*carmen*" wrote in message
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Thank you and everyone for the advise. I am actually impressed.
Last night when we got home we built the fence. There was one before
but "only" about 1.70 m. Phoebe the wee cat went flying over it the
other day. I don't know how could she do that as I said, she has live
indoors all her life.
it was agony to look for her but she could not care less when we found
her. Too brave for so little.
Now they have tested it they meaow all the time asking to go out.
Before they did no have a problem apart that Patrick is bored inside
and goes bulimic. He needs out I think.
By the way we live in Scotland.
Carmen


It sounds nice. You should post some pictures for us. I'm not surprised
that your indoor cat could go flying like that. Holly (12 years old)
leaps to the mantel with no problem at all.


It does sound nice, I would love to see it. It is really wonderful to hear
froma poster in the UK who actually realizes that there are dangers outside
for
cats who are allowed to roam, and cares enough to take precautions before
simply opening the door.




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on Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:20:05 GMT, "cybercat"
wrote:

It does sound nice, I would love to see it. It is really wonderful to
hear froma poster in the UK who actually realizes that there are
dangers outside for
cats who are allowed to roam, and cares enough to take precautions
before simply opening the door.

Agree--very refreshing.

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Lynne