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From: (GAUBSTER2)
Personally I don't care for IAMS (owned by Proctor & Gamble) or Science Diet (owned by Colgage & Palmolive), mostly because the companies that own these foods do animal testing on their products. Here we go again. Colgate doesn't do animal testing on their products. Why slander them? Also, when I fed Science Diet in the past, my cats never did very well on it. My cats have always done fantastic on it. I dont' feed commercial food but my friends who do have cats that do well on Petguard, Felidae, or Wellness. These foods should be available at a large health food market like Whole Foods or Wild Oats, or small pet supply stores. Those are all foods that are appropriate only for kittens and not adult or senior cats. Not to mention the fact that they haven't done animal feeding trials. What have they got to hide? I honestly don't know whether or not they use feeding trials. Can you prove that they don't or are you just saying it to bash them? Here's how good feeding trials are according to AAFCO: "8 dogs older than 1 yr. must start the test. At start all dogs must be normal weight & health. A blood test is to be taken from each dog at the start and finish of the test. For 6 months, the dogs used must only eat the food being tested. The dogs finishing the test must not lose more than 15% of their body weight. During the test, none of the dogs used are to die or be removed because of nutritional causes. 6 of the 8 dogs starting must finish the test." This is take from AAFCO directly. So, according to them, 25% of the dogs being tested can die while eating the food being tested, and the food will still pass. So much for feeding trials, huh? LOL ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm |
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From: (GAUBSTER2)
Personally I don't care for IAMS (owned by Proctor & Gamble) or Science Diet (owned by Colgage & Palmolive), mostly because the companies that own these foods do animal testing on their products. Here we go again. Colgate doesn't do animal testing on their products. Why slander them? Also, when I fed Science Diet in the past, my cats never did very well on it. My cats have always done fantastic on it. I dont' feed commercial food but my friends who do have cats that do well on Petguard, Felidae, or Wellness. These foods should be available at a large health food market like Whole Foods or Wild Oats, or small pet supply stores. Those are all foods that are appropriate only for kittens and not adult or senior cats. Not to mention the fact that they haven't done animal feeding trials. What have they got to hide? I honestly don't know whether or not they use feeding trials. Can you prove that they don't or are you just saying it to bash them? Here's how good feeding trials are according to AAFCO: "8 dogs older than 1 yr. must start the test. At start all dogs must be normal weight & health. A blood test is to be taken from each dog at the start and finish of the test. For 6 months, the dogs used must only eat the food being tested. The dogs finishing the test must not lose more than 15% of their body weight. During the test, none of the dogs used are to die or be removed because of nutritional causes. 6 of the 8 dogs starting must finish the test." This is take from AAFCO directly. So, according to them, 25% of the dogs being tested can die while eating the food being tested, and the food will still pass. So much for feeding trials, huh? LOL ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm |
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olitter (PawsForThought) wrote in message ...
From: "Gail" Personally I don't care for IAMS (owned by Proctor & Gamble) or Science Diet (owned by Colgage & Palmolive), mostly because the companies that own these foods do animal testing on their products. Also, when I fed Science Diet in the past, my cats never did very well on it. I think as long as you feed a high quality canned food that should be good. I dont' feed commercial food but my friends who do have cats that do well on Petguard, Felidae, or Wellness. These foods should be available at a large health food market like Whole Foods or Wild Oats, or small pet supply stores. Lauren Oh come off it Lauren, you know damn well Colgate does no such testing on animals, neither does Hill's. You've been told this numerous times and know damn well it's not true. We are on PETA's OK list for crying out loud. |
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olitter (PawsForThought) wrote in message ...
From: "Gail" Personally I don't care for IAMS (owned by Proctor & Gamble) or Science Diet (owned by Colgage & Palmolive), mostly because the companies that own these foods do animal testing on their products. Also, when I fed Science Diet in the past, my cats never did very well on it. I think as long as you feed a high quality canned food that should be good. I dont' feed commercial food but my friends who do have cats that do well on Petguard, Felidae, or Wellness. These foods should be available at a large health food market like Whole Foods or Wild Oats, or small pet supply stores. Lauren Oh come off it Lauren, you know damn well Colgate does no such testing on animals, neither does Hill's. You've been told this numerous times and know damn well it's not true. We are on PETA's OK list for crying out loud. |
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olitter (PawsForThought) wrote in message ...
From: "Gail" Personally I don't care for IAMS (owned by Proctor & Gamble) or Science Diet (owned by Colgage & Palmolive), mostly because the companies that own these foods do animal testing on their products. Also, when I fed Science Diet in the past, my cats never did very well on it. I think as long as you feed a high quality canned food that should be good. I dont' feed commercial food but my friends who do have cats that do well on Petguard, Felidae, or Wellness. These foods should be available at a large health food market like Whole Foods or Wild Oats, or small pet supply stores. Lauren Oh come off it Lauren, you know damn well Colgate does no such testing on animals, neither does Hill's. You've been told this numerous times and know damn well it's not true. We are on PETA's OK list for crying out loud. |
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Brian or Sharon Beuchaw said:
And hopefully this will be an easy question for y'all - our 5 year old female recently developed cystitis w/o crystals (and from what I've read, stress and eating dry food may aggravate it, and we just got a new kitten a few weeks ago and she eats dry food). I've read numerous posts about wet food being best, so we need to switch. Which wet food (readily available at either the grocery store or Petsmart) would be best for keeping cystitis at bay for the rest of her life? Or does it really matter what brand as long as it's wet and the cat likes it and eats it? Your vet would be a good place to start. A low magnesium food and alot of water consumption is a starting point. I know that my local Petsmart sells prescription foods. They are in a separate area away from the rest of the food. You will have to look for it in the store. I don't know what the requirements are to purchase it but it is probably worth looking into. |
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Brian or Sharon Beuchaw said:
And hopefully this will be an easy question for y'all - our 5 year old female recently developed cystitis w/o crystals (and from what I've read, stress and eating dry food may aggravate it, and we just got a new kitten a few weeks ago and she eats dry food). I've read numerous posts about wet food being best, so we need to switch. Which wet food (readily available at either the grocery store or Petsmart) would be best for keeping cystitis at bay for the rest of her life? Or does it really matter what brand as long as it's wet and the cat likes it and eats it? Your vet would be a good place to start. A low magnesium food and alot of water consumption is a starting point. I know that my local Petsmart sells prescription foods. They are in a separate area away from the rest of the food. You will have to look for it in the store. I don't know what the requirements are to purchase it but it is probably worth looking into. |
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Brian or Sharon Beuchaw said:
And hopefully this will be an easy question for y'all - our 5 year old female recently developed cystitis w/o crystals (and from what I've read, stress and eating dry food may aggravate it, and we just got a new kitten a few weeks ago and she eats dry food). I've read numerous posts about wet food being best, so we need to switch. Which wet food (readily available at either the grocery store or Petsmart) would be best for keeping cystitis at bay for the rest of her life? Or does it really matter what brand as long as it's wet and the cat likes it and eats it? Your vet would be a good place to start. A low magnesium food and alot of water consumption is a starting point. I know that my local Petsmart sells prescription foods. They are in a separate area away from the rest of the food. You will have to look for it in the store. I don't know what the requirements are to purchase it but it is probably worth looking into. |
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I honestly don't know whether or not they use feeding trials. Can you prove
that they don't or are you just saying it to bash them? I'm not bashing anyone, I'm simply pointing out facts and reality. If you don't believe me, pick up a can and read the AAFCO statement. Since AAFCO standards are so easy to pass, why don't they even try? "8 dogs older than 1 yr. must start the test. At start all dogs must be normal weight & health. A blood test is to be taken from each dog at the start and finish of the test. For 6 months, the dogs used must only eat the food being tested. The dogs finishing the test must not lose more than 15% of their body weight. During the test, none of the dogs used are to die or be removed because of nutritional causes. 6 of the 8 dogs starting must finish the test." This is take from AAFCO directly. So, according to them, 25% of the dogs being tested can die while eating the food being tested, and the food will still pass. You're reading this completely wrong and inserting your biases into it. If at least 6 of the 8 dogs must finish the test....that doesn't mean that 2 of the dogs have to die. They must simply FINISH the test. Why do you assume the worst? |
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