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Vets need to be consulted
I seldom crosspost, but I am doing so this time because I have seen the same
problem over-and-over-again on each of the "cats" newsgroups I read. That is, someone will post a message to us asking, "What is the problem?" - or possibly - "What can I do?" These are good forums for general information and advice, but we are *not* veterinarians. Moreover, many of the questions relate to problems that even a professional could not solve without an on-site examination. Worse, some of the problems have either been neglected for a long time or involve issues that clearly call for immediate medical care. Please, folks, use your brains (and your compassion)! Call a vet ASAP when you detect a problem, in the same way that you would want medical care for yourself. You are not only causing additional pain/discomfort for your cat when you delay and wait for unknown people on a newsgroup to respond, but the irony is that you often cause additional expense for yourself. Many problems that can be easily and inexpensively remedied can quickly become much more serious and more expensive when treatment is delayed. MaryL Photos of Duffy and Holly: 'o' Duffy: http://tinyurl.com/cslwf Holly: http://tinyurl.com/9t68o Duffy and Holly together: http://tinyurl.com/8b47e |
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Vets need to be consulted
On Nov 11, 6:58 pm, "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER
wrote: I seldom crosspost, but I am doing so this time because I have seen the same problem over-and-over-again on each of the "cats" newsgroups I read. That is, someone will post a message to us asking, "What is the problem?" - or possibly - "What can I do?" These are good forums for general information and advice, but we are *not* veterinarians. Moreover, many of the questions relate to problems that even a professional could not solve without an on-site examination. Worse, some of the problems have either been neglected for a long time or involve issues that clearly call for immediate medical care. Please, folks, use your brains (and your compassion)! Call a vet ASAP when you detect a problem, in the same way that you would want medical care for yourself. You are not only causing additional pain/discomfort for your cat when you delay and wait for unknown people on a newsgroup to respond, but the irony is that you often cause additional expense for yourself. Many problems that can be easily and inexpensively remedied can quickly become much more serious and more expensive when treatment is delayed. MaryL Absolutely. Just as personal anecdotal evidence; *every time* I have delayed or put off a trip to the vet the problem only grew worse, and cost the cat more suffering and a higher vet bill in the long run. Like everybody else, I hate putting them through the trauma of the vet trip, and of course, like many others, I am on a tight budget. Most recent was Bosley's chin acne, usually a minor thing. If I'd taken proper care of him at the beginning of the outbreak, it wouldn't have turned into a huge, swollen, infected abscess. Sherry |
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Vets need to be consulted
When you think a veterinarian needs to be consulted, you can simply reply stating that opinion. "MaryL" stancole1 yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER wrote: I seldom crosspost, but I am doing so this time because I have seen the same problem over-and-over-again on each of the "cats" newsgroups I read. That is, someone will post a message to us asking, "What is the problem?" - or possibly - "What can I do?" These are good forums for general information and advice, but we are *not* veterinarians. Moreover, many of the questions relate to problems that even a professional could not solve without an on-site examination. Worse, some of the problems have either been neglected for a long time or involve issues that clearly call for immediate medical care. Please, folks, use your brains (and your compassion)! Call a vet ASAP when you detect a problem, in the same way that you would want medical care for yourself. You are not only causing additional pain/discomfort for your cat when you delay and wait for unknown people on a newsgroup to respond, but the irony is that you often cause additional expense for yourself. Many problems that can be easily and inexpensively remedied can quickly become much more serious and more expensive when treatment is delayed. MaryL Photos of Duffy and Holly: 'o' Duffy: http://tinyurl.com/cslwf Holly: http://tinyurl.com/9t68o Duffy and Holly together: http://tinyurl.com/8b47e Path: newssvr29.news.prodigy.net!newsdbm05.news.prodigy. net!newsdst01.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.com!newscon 04.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.net!news.astraweb.com! border2.newsrouter.astraweb.com!news-out.octanews.net!teal.octanews.net!nx01.iad01.news hosting.com!newshosting.com!post01.iad01!news.sudd enlink.net!not-for-mail From: "MaryL" stancole1 yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER Newsgroups: alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.anecdotes,rec .pets.cats.health+behav Subject: Vets need to be consulted Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:58:06 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071111-1, 11/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Lines: 27 Message-ID: 4737a515$0$5284$bbae4d71 news.suddenlink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 74.193.33.74 X-Complaints-To: abuse suddenlink.net Xref: prodigy.net alt.cats:225876 alt.pets.cats:48836 rec.pets.cats.anecdotes:539269 rec.pets.cats.health+behav:466847 |
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"John Doe" wrote in message . net... When you think a veterinarian needs to be consulted, you can simply reply stating that opinion. Of course. And I have done that, many times -- and so have many others. The point is, that really shouldn't be necessary, at least not in many cases. It should be common sense to consult a vet under the types of conditions that I have seen posted -- again, numerous times. This is not directed at one person in particular. People need to *think.* MaryL |
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"MaryL" stancole1 yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER wrote:
"John Doe" jdoe usenetlove.invalid wrote in message news:MzOZi.68190$YL5.20590 newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... When you think a veterinarian needs to be consulted, you can simply reply stating that opinion. It should be common sense to consult a vet under the types of conditions that I have seen posted -- again, numerous times. People need to *think.* Why are there so many stray cats suffering and dying young in the not-so-great outdoors? Why do animals eat each other alive out there? Why spend $10,000 at a veterinarian clinic on two pet cats (and then post about it here) when instead dozens of stray cats could have been saved from being slaughtered? It depends on the circumstance, and that's where the advice belongs, in my opinion. Have fun. MaryL Path: newssvr27.news.prodigy.net!newsdbm04.news.prodigy. net!newsdst01.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.com!newscon 04.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.net!pd7cy1no!pd7cy2no! pd7cy5no!shaw.ca!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newsho sting.com!post01.iad01!news.suddenlink.net!not-for-mail From: "MaryL" stancole1 yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER Newsgroups: alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.anecdotes,rec .pets.cats.health+behav References: 4737a515$0$5284$bbae4d71 news.suddenlink.net MzOZi.68190$YL5.20590 newssvr29.news.prodigy.net Subject: Vets need to be consulted Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:38:58 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071111-1, 11/11/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Lines: 18 Message-ID: 4737bcbc$0$5257$bbae4d71 news.suddenlink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 74.193.33.74 X-Complaints-To: abuse suddenlink.net Xref: prodigy.net alt.cats:225881 alt.pets.cats:48840 rec.pets.cats.anecdotes:539283 rec.pets.cats.health+behav:466853 |
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"John Doe" wrote in message et... "MaryL" stancole1 yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER wrote: "John Doe" jdoe usenetlove.invalid wrote in message news:MzOZi.68190$YL5.20590 newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... When you think a veterinarian needs to be consulted, you can simply reply stating that opinion. It should be common sense to consult a vet under the types of conditions that I have seen posted -- again, numerous times. People need to *think.* Why are there so many stray cats suffering and dying young in the not-so-great outdoors? Why do animals eat each other alive out there? Why spend $10,000 at a veterinarian clinic on two pet cats (and then post about it here) when instead dozens of stray cats could have been saved from being slaughtered? It depends on the circumstance, and that's where the advice belongs, in my opinion. Have fun. MaryL And what does this have to do with the message I posted? MaryL |
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On Nov 11, 11:08 pm, "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER
wrote: "John Doe" wrote in message et... "MaryL" stancole1 yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER wrote: "John Doe" jdoe usenetlove.invalid wrote in message news:MzOZi.68190$YL5.20590 newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... When you think a veterinarian needs to be consulted, you can simply reply stating that opinion. It should be common sense to consult a vet under the types of conditions that I have seen posted -- again, numerous times. People need to *think.* Why are there so many stray cats suffering and dying young in the not-so-great outdoors? Why do animals eat each other alive out there? Why spend $10,000 at a veterinarian clinic on two pet cats (and then post about it here) when instead dozens of stray cats could have been saved from being slaughtered? It depends on the circumstance, and that's where the advice belongs, in my opinion. Have fun. MaryL And what does this have to do with the message I posted? MaryL- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Mary I agree 100%. Its almost like there should be some kinda list like if you see your cat with a nose bleed - take it to the vet if you see your cat sneezing, coughing & congested - take it to a vet if you see your cat hasen't eaten in a few days - take it to a vet get the picture? |
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:38:58 -0600, "MaryL"
-OUT-THE-LITTER wrote: "John Doe" wrote in message .net... When you think a veterinarian needs to be consulted, you can simply reply stating that opinion. Of course. And I have done that, many times -- and so have many others. The point is, that really shouldn't be necessary, at least not in many cases. It should be common sense to consult a vet under the types of conditions that I have seen posted -- again, numerous times. This is not directed at one person in particular. People need to *think.* I think the majority of these posts are people that are just too cheap to go to the vet, and they hope we will solve their problem for free. Many of them claim to not have enough money to go, but they have money for other things. I know what it is like to be tight with money. I have paid other bills late (and thus incurred late fees) to make sure my cats got the care they required. I have also gotten a short term loan, sold items, and borrowed money. I don't regret it. My cats and dogs are worth it to me. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't feel the same way. They won't go to the vet if they think it can be solved by a free online question. Or they won't go to the overnight vet because it costs too much. Or worse, they won't even call the vet because they think it takes too long to look up phone numbers. Gee, if they had a regular vet, they wouldn't need to look up the phone number, and the vet wold be happy to assist a regular customer. But hey, according to them, we are the true bad guys because all we do is suggest they go to the vet, the one thing they don't want to hear. |
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"Meghan Noecker" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:38:58 -0600, "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote: "John Doe" wrote in message y.net... When you think a veterinarian needs to be consulted, you can simply reply stating that opinion. Of course. And I have done that, many times -- and so have many others. The point is, that really shouldn't be necessary, at least not in many cases. It should be common sense to consult a vet under the types of conditions that I have seen posted -- again, numerous times. This is not directed at one person in particular. People need to *think.* I think the majority of these posts are people that are just too cheap to go to the vet, and they hope we will solve their problem for free. Many of them claim to not have enough money to go, but they have money for other things. I know what it is like to be tight with money. I have paid other bills late (and thus incurred late fees) to make sure my cats got the care they required. I have also gotten a short term loan, sold items, and borrowed money. I don't regret it. My cats and dogs are worth it to me. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't feel the same way. They won't go to the vet if they think it can be solved by a free online question. Or they won't go to the overnight vet because it costs too much. Or worse, they won't even call the vet because they think it takes too long to look up phone numbers. Gee, if they had a regular vet, they wouldn't need to look up the phone number, and the vet wold be happy to assist a regular customer. But hey, according to them, we are the true bad guys because all we do is suggest they go to the vet, the one thing they don't want to hear. Unfortunately, I think you are correct. There are some occasions when I think it is a newbie who really doesn't know what to do, but that is a rarity. Like you, I went through periods when I borrowed money to take care of my cats (actually, one cat at a time). I got my first cat when I was in graduate school, and my cat needed emergency surgery. I slowly paid the bill off, and it was paid in full after about three years -- but I made arrangements for it, and it was done. And it was well worth it! He was less than a year old at that time, but he lived to be just a little less than 20 years old. He was wonderful! MaryL |
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Meghan Noecker wrote:
"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote: Of course. And I have done that, many times -- and so have many others. The point is, that really shouldn't be necessary, at least not in many cases. It should be common sense to consult a vet under the types of conditions that I have seen posted -- again, numerous times. This is not directed at one person in particular. People need to *think.* Not everyone who reads and posts to these newsgroups has been reading them a long time, so not everyone is going to know that this is the standard answer, or that it's the best advice. Also, there is nothing common about so-called common sense. If you were taught to think sensibly, be grateful rather than judgemental of those who weren't so lucky. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't feel the same way. They won't go to the vet if they think it can be solved by a free online question. Or they won't go to the overnight vet because it costs too much. Or worse, they won't even call the vet because they think it takes too long to look up phone numbers. Gee, if they had a regular vet, they wouldn't need to look up the phone number, and the vet wold be happy to assist a regular customer. But hey, according to them, we are the true bad guys because all we do is suggest they go to the vet, the one thing they don't want to hear. Why make a big moral issue out of something that could simply be an innocent, or perhaps ignorant, but not "cheap" or "neglectful" question. I know that assuming someone means well isn't as much fun as getting on a moral high horse, I sure as hell get sick of the halo displays. Yeah, that person should take their cat to a vet. Maybe they didn't realize this. Now, hopefully, they do. (If not, then that's the time to yell at them...) |
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