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Roly-poly pets: Overweight animals at risk for diseases, death
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:51:23 -0400, "cybercat"
wrote: "sighthounds & siberians" wrote Please post some of this evidence that kibble causes diabettes, and that kibble dehydrates cats. You and anyone else can feed your cats **** if you want to. You can do anything to them, right? But they need canned food. Quality meat, delivered with moisture as they would get in the wild. Cats naturally get a lot of moisture from their food. Dry food ****s this up. When I stopped feeding dry my cat stopped hurling, too. They gobble the dry food because they're hungry, and eat too much because they are not satisfied, then it expands in their stomachs and there you have it, on the rug. That's not evidence. I'm well aware of the benefits of canned food, which is why I feed quality canned cat food, and always have. I guess you were so busy frothing at the mouth that you missed that. I've had cats, though, that wouldn't eat canned food, just as I've had cats that threw up no matter what they ate and cats that never threw up no matter what they ate. Anecdotes aren't the same as evidence. |
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Roly-poly pets: Overweight animals at risk for diseases, death
"sighthounds & siberians" wrote in message ... On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:51:23 -0400, "cybercat" wrote: "sighthounds & siberians" wrote Please post some of this evidence that kibble causes diabettes, and that kibble dehydrates cats. You and anyone else can feed your cats **** if you want to. You can do anything to them, right? But they need canned food. Quality meat, delivered with moisture as they would get in the wild. Cats naturally get a lot of moisture from their food. Dry food ****s this up. When I stopped feeding dry my cat stopped hurling, too. They gobble the dry food because they're hungry, and eat too much because they are not satisfied, then it expands in their stomachs and there you have it, on the rug. That's not evidence. I'm well aware of the benefits of canned food, which is why I feed quality canned cat food, and always have. I guess you were so busy frothing at the mouth that you missed that. I've had cats, though, that wouldn't eat canned food, just as I've had cats that threw up no matter what they ate and cats that never threw up no matter what they ate. Anecdotes aren't the same as evidence. Do your own research. |
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Roly-poly pets: Overweight animals at risk for diseases, death
(crazy crossposts removed, except for the dog
and cat health groups) sighthounds & siberians wrote: Please post some of this evidence that kibble causes diabettes, and that kibble dehydrates cats. I shudder to even appear to lend credence to....oh, I won't even refer to her. It'll make it easier. I wouldn't say that kibble "causes" diabetes in cats any more than I would say that french fries and cake (mmmmm....cake) cause it in humans. But in both cases, there certainly *can* be a connection. I know quite a few who's cats had diabetes when on a commercial kibbled diet who switched to a more species appropriate diet and ended up with a cat with NO diabetes. And when it comes to water, cats are really different than dogs. They don't have the same drive to hydrate, imo, that dogs do. SO it becomes even more important (again, IMO) to give them food that helps provide proper hydration. Kibble is about as good for hydration as crackers are to us....none. But we have a stronger drive to quench our thirst via drinking then cats do, so we get to eat all the crackers we want :-) FYI, I also feed quality canned food to my cat, who is not fat. So, wrong again. Awesome on both counts :-) |
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cybercat wrote:
"sighthounds & siberians" wrote in message ... On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:53:38 -0400, "cybercat" wrote: "sighthounds & siberians" wrote in message ... On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:34:44 -0400, Char wrote: As long as you feed her kibble she will be a fat cat. Kibble is primarily grains that you are feeding to a carnivore. Kibble causes obesity, diabetes, and worse. There is absolutely no evidence that kibble causes obesity, or diabetes, or worse, and it is incredibly irresponsible that Char posts such misinformation. On the contrary, there is lots of evidence, in the way of fat cats freefeeding on "diet" dry cat food. Feeding your cats that carb laden crap dehydrates them and fills them up with starch they do not need. If you free feed, they keep eating because they cannot get what really satisfies them--MEAT--so they fill up on starch instead. Terrible stuff. You feed "kibble" because you are cheap and lazy. I feed quality canned food every 12 hours because I care about my cats more than I care about my convenience. Please post some of this evidence that kibble causes diabettes, and that kibble dehydrates cats. FYI, I also feed quality canned food to my cat, who is not fat. So, wrong again. They are carnivores, asswipe. That is all you need to remember. The only benefit in feeding dry is to the human. Convenience and price. Oh yeah, NOW I remember why I avoid the cat ngs like the plague. |
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sighthounds & siberians wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:51:23 -0400, "cybercat" wrote: "sighthounds & siberians" wrote Please post some of this evidence that kibble causes diabettes, and that kibble dehydrates cats. You and anyone else can feed your cats **** if you want to. You can do anything to them, right? But they need canned food. Quality meat, delivered with moisture as they would get in the wild. Cats naturally get a lot of moisture from their food. Dry food ****s this up. When I stopped feeding dry my cat stopped hurling, too. They gobble the dry food because they're hungry, and eat too much because they are not satisfied, then it expands in their stomachs and there you have it, on the rug. That's not evidence. I'm well aware of the benefits of canned food, which is why I feed quality canned cat food, and always have. I guess you were so busy frothing at the mouth that you missed that. I've had cats, though, that wouldn't eat canned food, just as I've had cats that threw up no matter what they ate and cats that never threw up no matter what they ate. Anecdotes aren't the same as evidence. Very true. And what's with the frothing? You'd think there's be more of that in the DOG groups ;-) |
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On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:21:16 -0400, Tara Green
wrote: sighthounds & siberians wrote: On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:51:23 -0400, "cybercat" wrote: "sighthounds & siberians" wrote Please post some of this evidence that kibble causes diabettes, and that kibble dehydrates cats. You and anyone else can feed your cats **** if you want to. You can do anything to them, right? But they need canned food. Quality meat, delivered with moisture as they would get in the wild. Cats naturally get a lot of moisture from their food. Dry food ****s this up. When I stopped feeding dry my cat stopped hurling, too. They gobble the dry food because they're hungry, and eat too much because they are not satisfied, then it expands in their stomachs and there you have it, on the rug. That's not evidence. I'm well aware of the benefits of canned food, which is why I feed quality canned cat food, and always have. I guess you were so busy frothing at the mouth that you missed that. I've had cats, though, that wouldn't eat canned food, just as I've had cats that threw up no matter what they ate and cats that never threw up no matter what they ate. Anecdotes aren't the same as evidence. Very true. And what's with the frothing? You'd think there's be more of that in the DOG groups ;-) It's cybercat. She's always frothing. |
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On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:19:17 -0400, Tara Green
wrote: FYI, I also feed quality canned food to my cat, who is not fat. So, wrong again. Awesome on both counts :-) The weird thing is that she doesn't really like canned food that much, and she's really, really picky about what canned food she will eat. She likes about, oh, 3 flavors. I was all excited when Canidae/Felidae came out with grain free canned in 12-can cases of 3 oz cans. She won't touch it. She's a very contrary cat, she is. |
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"Tara Green" wrote in message ... cybercat wrote: "sighthounds & siberians" wrote in message ... On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:53:38 -0400, "cybercat" wrote: "sighthounds & siberians" wrote in message ... On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:34:44 -0400, Char wrote: As long as you feed her kibble she will be a fat cat. Kibble is primarily grains that you are feeding to a carnivore. Kibble causes obesity, diabetes, and worse. There is absolutely no evidence that kibble causes obesity, or diabetes, or worse, and it is incredibly irresponsible that Char posts such misinformation. On the contrary, there is lots of evidence, in the way of fat cats freefeeding on "diet" dry cat food. Feeding your cats that carb laden crap dehydrates them and fills them up with starch they do not need. If you free feed, they keep eating because they cannot get what really satisfies them--MEAT--so they fill up on starch instead. Terrible stuff. You feed "kibble" because you are cheap and lazy. I feed quality canned food every 12 hours because I care about my cats more than I care about my convenience. Please post some of this evidence that kibble causes diabettes, and that kibble dehydrates cats. FYI, I also feed quality canned food to my cat, who is not fat. So, wrong again. They are carnivores, asswipe. That is all you need to remember. The only benefit in feeding dry is to the human. Convenience and price. Oh yeah, NOW I remember why I avoid the cat ngs like the plague. Nobody cares. |
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"sighthounds & siberians" wrote in message ... On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:21:16 -0400, Tara Green wrote: sighthounds & siberians wrote: On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:51:23 -0400, "cybercat" wrote: "sighthounds & siberians" wrote Please post some of this evidence that kibble causes diabettes, and that kibble dehydrates cats. You and anyone else can feed your cats **** if you want to. You can do anything to them, right? But they need canned food. Quality meat, delivered with moisture as they would get in the wild. Cats naturally get a lot of moisture from their food. Dry food ****s this up. When I stopped feeding dry my cat stopped hurling, too. They gobble the dry food because they're hungry, and eat too much because they are not satisfied, then it expands in their stomachs and there you have it, on the rug. That's not evidence. I'm well aware of the benefits of canned food, which is why I feed quality canned cat food, and always have. I guess you were so busy frothing at the mouth that you missed that. I've had cats, though, that wouldn't eat canned food, just as I've had cats that threw up no matter what they ate and cats that never threw up no matter what they ate. Anecdotes aren't the same as evidence. Very true. And what's with the frothing? You'd think there's be more of that in the DOG groups ;-) It's cybercat. She's always frothing. Isn't this precious. It's a lady's circle jerk. |
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cyberpurrs wrote:
"sighthounds & siberians" wrote in message ... On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:21:16 -0400, Tara Green wrote: sighthounds & siberians wrote: On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:51:23 -0400, "cybercat" wrote: "sighthounds & siberians" wrote Please post some of this evidence that kibble causes diabettes, and that kibble dehydrates cats. You and anyone else can feed your cats **** if you want to. You can do anything to them, right? But they need canned food. Quality meat, delivered with moisture as they would get in the wild. Cats naturally get a lot of moisture from their food. Dry food ****s this up. When I stopped feeding dry my cat stopped hurling, too. They gobble the dry food because they're hungry, and eat too much because they are not satisfied, then it expands in their stomachs and there you have it, on the rug. That's not evidence. I'm well aware of the benefits of canned food, which is why I feed quality canned cat food, and always have. I guess you were so busy frothing at the mouth that you missed that. I've had cats, though, that wouldn't eat canned food, just as I've had cats that threw up no matter what they ate and cats that never threw up no matter what they ate. Anecdotes aren't the same as evidence. Very true. And what's with the frothing? You'd think there's be more of that in the DOG groups ;-) It's cybercat. She's always frothing. Isn't this precious. It's a lady's circle jerk. As opposed to your usual solo performance? |
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