Canned food - prices

I feed Science Diet and pay 69=A2 for a 5.5
oz. can at PetsMart. It frequently goes on
sale for 50=A2 or less if you watch. I think it
comes larger and probably an equally
good price.

Science Diet contains by-products and is not a premium food.

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

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"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray

I don't advocate Science Diet either, but by-products in and of themselves
aren't problematic. It's the mystery meat, the "animal fat" or "\animal
whatever" or "meat" or anything not specifically credited that you need to
be wary of.

wrote in message
...
I feed Science Diet and pay 69¢ for a 5.5
oz. can at PetsMart. It frequently goes on
sale for 50¢ or less if you watch. I think it
comes larger and probably an equally
good price.

Science Diet contains by-products and is not a premium food.

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray

I don't advocate Science Diet either, but by-products in and of themselves
aren't problematic. It's the mystery meat, the "animal fat" or "\animal
whatever" or "meat" or anything not specifically credited that you need to
be wary of.

wrote in message
...
I feed Science Diet and pay 69¢ for a 5.5
oz. can at PetsMart. It frequently goes on
sale for 50¢ or less if you watch. I think it
comes larger and probably an equally
good price.

Science Diet contains by-products and is not a premium food.

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray

Betsy wrote:
I don't advocate Science Diet either, but
by-products in and of themselves aren't
problematic.

Yes they are. By-products consist of many things and there is no way to
know what quantity of whatever is in the food. You should be wary that
they aren't specific and this is no different than your claim about
mystery meats.

"By-product: An ingredient produced in the course of making a primary
food ingredient; a secondary or incidental product. Feathers are a
by-product of poultry meat processing. Feathers which are removed from a
carcass during production of poultry meat are then hydrolyzed (pressure
cooked with steam until they are an edible gel) which makes them an
acceptable feed grade ingredient. Hydrolyzed feathers have been assigned
the (IFN) International Feed Number 5-03-795 and can appear on a label
as "Poultry By-products." On page 158 in the AAFCO book, Official
Publication, 1994, Association of American Feed Control Officials
Incorporated, they show: Hydrolyzed Poultry By-Products Aggregate is the
product resulting from heat treatment, or a combination thereof, of all
by-products of slaughter poultry, clean and undecomposed, including such
parts as heads, feet, underdeveloped eggs, intestines, feathers and
blood." The IFN assigned to this mix is 5-14-508. Today's regulations
allow the entire mix or any part of it to appear on a label as "Poultry
By-products." A "Fish By-product" can contain heads, tails, intestines
and blood. This fish process residue has been assigned the IFN 5-07-977.
A "Meat By-product" could be viscera and blood soaked sawdust from the
floors of a packing house where meat is being processed. The meat being
processed can be lamb, beef, horse, or any other source. Each one has
its own IFN. Some of the animal feed IFN's that contain wood shavings
from the floor of a processing facility include "Dried Ruminant Waste"
#1-07-526, and "Undried Processed Animal Waste Products" #5-02-790. It
is important to note that the amount of wood shavings in either of these
two "Meat By-products" is limited and should not be more than 35% in one
and 40% in the other. When a pet food label's list of ingredients shows
the word By-product you can be assured that there is NO measurable
amount of meat in the ingredient. If the ingredient contained enough
meat that it could be measured the pet food company would proudly list
the MEAT, not just the By-product of that meat's production."

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray

Betsy wrote:
I don't advocate Science Diet either, but
by-products in and of themselves aren't
problematic.

Yes they are. By-products consist of many things and there is no way to
know what quantity of whatever is in the food. You should be wary that
they aren't specific and this is no different than your claim about
mystery meats.

"By-product: An ingredient produced in the course of making a primary
food ingredient; a secondary or incidental product. Feathers are a
by-product of poultry meat processing. Feathers which are removed from a
carcass during production of poultry meat are then hydrolyzed (pressure
cooked with steam until they are an edible gel) which makes them an
acceptable feed grade ingredient. Hydrolyzed feathers have been assigned
the (IFN) International Feed Number 5-03-795 and can appear on a label
as "Poultry By-products." On page 158 in the AAFCO book, Official
Publication, 1994, Association of American Feed Control Officials
Incorporated, they show: Hydrolyzed Poultry By-Products Aggregate is the
product resulting from heat treatment, or a combination thereof, of all
by-products of slaughter poultry, clean and undecomposed, including such
parts as heads, feet, underdeveloped eggs, intestines, feathers and
blood." The IFN assigned to this mix is 5-14-508. Today's regulations
allow the entire mix or any part of it to appear on a label as "Poultry
By-products." A "Fish By-product" can contain heads, tails, intestines
and blood. This fish process residue has been assigned the IFN 5-07-977.
A "Meat By-product" could be viscera and blood soaked sawdust from the
floors of a packing house where meat is being processed. The meat being
processed can be lamb, beef, horse, or any other source. Each one has
its own IFN. Some of the animal feed IFN's that contain wood shavings
from the floor of a processing facility include "Dried Ruminant Waste"
#1-07-526, and "Undried Processed Animal Waste Products" #5-02-790. It
is important to note that the amount of wood shavings in either of these
two "Meat By-products" is limited and should not be more than 35% in one
and 40% in the other. When a pet food label's list of ingredients shows
the word By-product you can be assured that there is NO measurable
amount of meat in the ingredient. If the ingredient contained enough
meat that it could be measured the pet food company would proudly list
the MEAT, not just the By-product of that meat's production."

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray

From: "Betsy" -0

wrote in


Science Diet contains by-products and is not a premium food.

I don't advocate Science Diet either, but by-products in and of themselves
aren't problematic. It's the mystery meat, the "animal fat" or "\animal
whatever" or "meat" or anything not specifically credited that you need to
be wary of.

Don't forget about the high corn content in Science Diet foods too. Wellness
would be a better option.
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm

From: "Betsy" -0

wrote in


Science Diet contains by-products and is not a premium food.

I don't advocate Science Diet either, but by-products in and of themselves
aren't problematic. It's the mystery meat, the "animal fat" or "\animal
whatever" or "meat" or anything not specifically credited that you need to
be wary of.

Don't forget about the high corn content in Science Diet foods too. Wellness
would be a better option.
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm

From:

Betsy wrote:
I don't advocate Science Diet either, but
by-products in and of themselves aren't
problematic.

Yes they are. By-products consist of many things and there is no way to
know what quantity of whatever is in the food. You should be wary that
they aren't specific and this is no different than your claim about
mystery meats.

"By-product: An ingredient produced in the course of making a primary
food ingredient; a secondary or incidental product. Feathers are a
by-product of poultry meat processing. Feathers which are removed from a
carcass during production of poultry meat are then hydrolyzed (pressure
cooked with steam until they are an edible gel) which makes them an
acceptable feed grade ingredient. Hydrolyzed feathers have been assigned
the (IFN) International Feed Number 5-03-795 and can appear on a label
as "Poultry By-products." On page 158 in the AAFCO book, Official
Publication, 1994, Association of American Feed Control Officials
Incorporated, they show: Hydrolyzed Poultry By-Products Aggregate is the
product resulting from heat treatment, or a combination thereof, of all
by-products of slaughter poultry, clean and undecomposed, including such
parts as heads, feet, underdeveloped eggs, intestines, feathers and
blood." The IFN assigned to this mix is 5-14-508. Today's regulations
allow the entire mix or any part of it to appear on a label as "Poultry
By-products." A "Fish By-product" can contain heads, tails, intestines
and blood. This fish process residue has been assigned the IFN 5-07-977.
A "Meat By-product" could be viscera and blood soaked sawdust from the
floors of a packing house where meat is being processed. The meat being
processed can be lamb, beef, horse, or any other source. Each one has
its own IFN. Some of the animal feed IFN's that contain wood shavings
from the floor of a processing facility include "Dried Ruminant Waste"
#1-07-526, and "Undried Processed Animal Waste Products" #5-02-790. It
is important to note that the amount of wood shavings in either of these
two "Meat By-products" is limited and should not be more than 35% in one
and 40% in the other. When a pet food label's list of ingredients shows
the word By-product you can be assured that there is NO measurable
amount of meat in the ingredient. If the ingredient contained enough
meat that it could be measured the pet food company would proudly list
the MEAT, not just the By-product of that meat's production."

Megan

Interesting. I guess instead of by-product, companies should say offal,
meaning things like liver and heart, which cats make very good use of (and not
"liver flavor" as Science Diet does). You're right, by-product could mean just
about anything and even the above could be in the food. Seems like a cheap way
for pet food companies to add weight to their product.
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm

From:

Betsy wrote:
I don't advocate Science Diet either, but
by-products in and of themselves aren't
problematic.

Yes they are. By-products consist of many things and there is no way to
know what quantity of whatever is in the food. You should be wary that
they aren't specific and this is no different than your claim about
mystery meats.

"By-product: An ingredient produced in the course of making a primary
food ingredient; a secondary or incidental product. Feathers are a
by-product of poultry meat processing. Feathers which are removed from a
carcass during production of poultry meat are then hydrolyzed (pressure
cooked with steam until they are an edible gel) which makes them an
acceptable feed grade ingredient. Hydrolyzed feathers have been assigned
the (IFN) International Feed Number 5-03-795 and can appear on a label
as "Poultry By-products." On page 158 in the AAFCO book, Official
Publication, 1994, Association of American Feed Control Officials
Incorporated, they show: Hydrolyzed Poultry By-Products Aggregate is the
product resulting from heat treatment, or a combination thereof, of all
by-products of slaughter poultry, clean and undecomposed, including such
parts as heads, feet, underdeveloped eggs, intestines, feathers and
blood." The IFN assigned to this mix is 5-14-508. Today's regulations
allow the entire mix or any part of it to appear on a label as "Poultry
By-products." A "Fish By-product" can contain heads, tails, intestines
and blood. This fish process residue has been assigned the IFN 5-07-977.
A "Meat By-product" could be viscera and blood soaked sawdust from the
floors of a packing house where meat is being processed. The meat being
processed can be lamb, beef, horse, or any other source. Each one has
its own IFN. Some of the animal feed IFN's that contain wood shavings
from the floor of a processing facility include "Dried Ruminant Waste"
#1-07-526, and "Undried Processed Animal Waste Products" #5-02-790. It
is important to note that the amount of wood shavings in either of these
two "Meat By-products" is limited and should not be more than 35% in one
and 40% in the other. When a pet food label's list of ingredients shows
the word By-product you can be assured that there is NO measurable
amount of meat in the ingredient. If the ingredient contained enough
meat that it could be measured the pet food company would proudly list
the MEAT, not just the By-product of that meat's production."

Megan

Interesting. I guess instead of by-product, companies should say offal,
meaning things like liver and heart, which cats make very good use of (and not
"liver flavor" as Science Diet does). You're right, by-product could mean just
about anything and even the above could be in the food. Seems like a cheap way
for pet food companies to add weight to their product.
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm

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My question -- with 8 cats of various
ages, is there a good, affordable wet
food? I priced the premium wet foods at
somewhere around $1.58 for 13 oz.

$1.58 for a 13 oz can of premium food is a good price. Think about what
a 3 ounce of can of Fancy Feast cost at around .39, and the premium food
is actually less per ounce.

I feed 24 cats only super premium foods and do it on a one person
income. I have calculated down to the ounce what my cats need to
maintain weight, feed exactly the same amounts at every meal, and can
place orders for food knowing how many cans I need to cover a weeks
worth of meals and know exactly how much I spend. The nice thing about
super premium food is that the cats generally don't need as much food to
get the same benefit, and when I switched to this type of food years ago
I found I was feeding nearly 30% less food, so I wasn't really spending
much more. I have made the choice to go without new clothes, going out
nights (there are cheaper forms of entertainment such as books and
renting movies) etc., rather than try to save money by feeding my cats
crap.

Megan


I am a recent convert to Wellness food (er, ok *I* don't actually eat
it. . .) I previously spent a ton of money on prescription food.
Wellness isn't cheap, but considering I feed less than I did of the
dry, I'm not spending that much more money than I did before. Some
other benefits a fewer #2s to scoop out of the litter box (they
absorb more of the food), getting more water in their diet, and the
food doesn't smell like cat food. It hardly has a smell at all.

Several people here have been happy with petfooddirect.com. I called
around locally for prices, and also emailed friends who lived a
reasonable distance for their area prices. Also see if the store has a
punch card or will give a discount for case purchases. I've found a
lot of stores will, but you have to ask.

Rene