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  #41  
Old November 19th 03, 02:09 PM
PawsForThought
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From: "Rona Yuthasastrakosol"


"PawsForThought" wrote in message
...
I don't know if this is true or not, but I got this from another board:

http://www.peta.org/feat/triumph/

"PETA: Triumph the Insult Comic Dog Dumps on Clay Aiken in New PETA
Pro-Neutering Ad
The article says:
"Triumph chose to make Clay Aiken the target of his humor in the ad, and

PETA
didn't object because Aiken recently told Rolling Stone, "I think cats are
Satan. There's nothing worse to me than a house cat. When I was about 16,

I
had a kitten and ran over it." PETA deals with dozens of cases of cruelty

to
cats every week and knows firsthand how damaging statements like this can
be-impressionable kids often mimic what their "idols" do. Aiken never
responded when PETA wrote to him."
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm


I'm taking this on to Lauren's post, just because it was the beginning of
this thread, not because I think any of what I have to say applies to her.

Here's the full article from Rolling Stone Clay Aiken and PETA. The
asterisks in the second paragraph were added by me, to draw attention to the
context of the comment made by Clay Aiken.

from http://www.rollingstone.com/news/new...973&cf=2046795

---begin paste---
In a landmark display of canine-feline solidarity, Triumph the Insult Comic
Dog has lashed out at professed kitty-hater Clay Aiken in a new ad campaign
for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. The print ad shows Triumph
with a band-aid over his recently neutered doggy-bits and a post-surgery
collar, and reads, "Get Neutered: It didn't hurt Clay Aiken."
Though the barb was Triumph's own, PETA went along thanks in part to
comments that Aiken made in a recent Rolling Stone article. "I think cats
are Satan," Aiken said. "There's nothing worse to me than a house cat. When
I was about sixteen, I had a kitten and ran over it. *****Seeing that cat
die, I actually think that its spirit has haunted me. I wasn't afraid of
cats before. But now they scare me to death.*****"

"It's a stupid statement," says PETA Vice President Dan Matthews. "We get
calls every week from people who throw kittens on barbecues because it's
funny. Or people who light cats on fire, or people who drag cats from cars.
It's so irresponsible that we wrote him after that interview came out and he
never got back to us. So we thought, you know, fair game, let's go for it."

According to PETA, with animal shelters overflowing, neutering and spaying
cats and dogs saves shelter-workers from having to put animals to death when
suitable homes cannot be found. Because Triumph's new album, Come Poop With
Me, is full of jokes about losing his private parts, he seemed a perfect
spokes-puppet.

"There's already been a huge response," says Matthews, whose office has been
bombarded by calls from angry Clay-mates. "When we explain why, they
understand it a bit better. In the end it's just funny. If you look at the
awful thing Clay said about cats, our ad in response is a pretty
lighthearted way to even up the score."

A spokesman for Clay Aiken had not comment on the ad.

DAVID SWANSON


---end paste---

At the risk of being flamed, I think people who thought "Clay called cats
"satan" so he must be a bad person and we should hate him and try to ruin
his reputation" are not that far off *in spirit* from those who might think,
"Clay called cats "satan" so cats must be bad and we should do evil things
to them." Two sides of the same coin, in my opinion.


rona (donning flame-retardant clothing)


Thanks for posting this, Rona. As I said in my post, I had just gotten it from
another board and didn't know if it was true or not. But the comment about
cats being Satan, well is strange for sure. I think most of us aren't haunted
by cat spirits as Satan. I think most of us who are *haunted* by such a thing
would be inspired to do good, make life right for another cat, in the spirit of
love, not Satan.

Lauren

________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm
  #42  
Old November 19th 03, 02:09 PM
PawsForThought
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From: "Rona Yuthasastrakosol"


"PawsForThought" wrote in message
...
I don't know if this is true or not, but I got this from another board:

http://www.peta.org/feat/triumph/

"PETA: Triumph the Insult Comic Dog Dumps on Clay Aiken in New PETA
Pro-Neutering Ad
The article says:
"Triumph chose to make Clay Aiken the target of his humor in the ad, and

PETA
didn't object because Aiken recently told Rolling Stone, "I think cats are
Satan. There's nothing worse to me than a house cat. When I was about 16,

I
had a kitten and ran over it." PETA deals with dozens of cases of cruelty

to
cats every week and knows firsthand how damaging statements like this can
be-impressionable kids often mimic what their "idols" do. Aiken never
responded when PETA wrote to him."
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm


I'm taking this on to Lauren's post, just because it was the beginning of
this thread, not because I think any of what I have to say applies to her.

Here's the full article from Rolling Stone Clay Aiken and PETA. The
asterisks in the second paragraph were added by me, to draw attention to the
context of the comment made by Clay Aiken.

from http://www.rollingstone.com/news/new...973&cf=2046795

---begin paste---
In a landmark display of canine-feline solidarity, Triumph the Insult Comic
Dog has lashed out at professed kitty-hater Clay Aiken in a new ad campaign
for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. The print ad shows Triumph
with a band-aid over his recently neutered doggy-bits and a post-surgery
collar, and reads, "Get Neutered: It didn't hurt Clay Aiken."
Though the barb was Triumph's own, PETA went along thanks in part to
comments that Aiken made in a recent Rolling Stone article. "I think cats
are Satan," Aiken said. "There's nothing worse to me than a house cat. When
I was about sixteen, I had a kitten and ran over it. *****Seeing that cat
die, I actually think that its spirit has haunted me. I wasn't afraid of
cats before. But now they scare me to death.*****"

"It's a stupid statement," says PETA Vice President Dan Matthews. "We get
calls every week from people who throw kittens on barbecues because it's
funny. Or people who light cats on fire, or people who drag cats from cars.
It's so irresponsible that we wrote him after that interview came out and he
never got back to us. So we thought, you know, fair game, let's go for it."

According to PETA, with animal shelters overflowing, neutering and spaying
cats and dogs saves shelter-workers from having to put animals to death when
suitable homes cannot be found. Because Triumph's new album, Come Poop With
Me, is full of jokes about losing his private parts, he seemed a perfect
spokes-puppet.

"There's already been a huge response," says Matthews, whose office has been
bombarded by calls from angry Clay-mates. "When we explain why, they
understand it a bit better. In the end it's just funny. If you look at the
awful thing Clay said about cats, our ad in response is a pretty
lighthearted way to even up the score."

A spokesman for Clay Aiken had not comment on the ad.

DAVID SWANSON


---end paste---

At the risk of being flamed, I think people who thought "Clay called cats
"satan" so he must be a bad person and we should hate him and try to ruin
his reputation" are not that far off *in spirit* from those who might think,
"Clay called cats "satan" so cats must be bad and we should do evil things
to them." Two sides of the same coin, in my opinion.


rona (donning flame-retardant clothing)


Thanks for posting this, Rona. As I said in my post, I had just gotten it from
another board and didn't know if it was true or not. But the comment about
cats being Satan, well is strange for sure. I think most of us aren't haunted
by cat spirits as Satan. I think most of us who are *haunted* by such a thing
would be inspired to do good, make life right for another cat, in the spirit of
love, not Satan.

Lauren

________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm
  #43  
Old November 19th 03, 02:09 PM
PawsForThought
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From: "Rona Yuthasastrakosol"


"PawsForThought" wrote in message
...
I don't know if this is true or not, but I got this from another board:

http://www.peta.org/feat/triumph/

"PETA: Triumph the Insult Comic Dog Dumps on Clay Aiken in New PETA
Pro-Neutering Ad
The article says:
"Triumph chose to make Clay Aiken the target of his humor in the ad, and

PETA
didn't object because Aiken recently told Rolling Stone, "I think cats are
Satan. There's nothing worse to me than a house cat. When I was about 16,

I
had a kitten and ran over it." PETA deals with dozens of cases of cruelty

to
cats every week and knows firsthand how damaging statements like this can
be-impressionable kids often mimic what their "idols" do. Aiken never
responded when PETA wrote to him."
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm


I'm taking this on to Lauren's post, just because it was the beginning of
this thread, not because I think any of what I have to say applies to her.

Here's the full article from Rolling Stone Clay Aiken and PETA. The
asterisks in the second paragraph were added by me, to draw attention to the
context of the comment made by Clay Aiken.

from http://www.rollingstone.com/news/new...973&cf=2046795

---begin paste---
In a landmark display of canine-feline solidarity, Triumph the Insult Comic
Dog has lashed out at professed kitty-hater Clay Aiken in a new ad campaign
for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. The print ad shows Triumph
with a band-aid over his recently neutered doggy-bits and a post-surgery
collar, and reads, "Get Neutered: It didn't hurt Clay Aiken."
Though the barb was Triumph's own, PETA went along thanks in part to
comments that Aiken made in a recent Rolling Stone article. "I think cats
are Satan," Aiken said. "There's nothing worse to me than a house cat. When
I was about sixteen, I had a kitten and ran over it. *****Seeing that cat
die, I actually think that its spirit has haunted me. I wasn't afraid of
cats before. But now they scare me to death.*****"

"It's a stupid statement," says PETA Vice President Dan Matthews. "We get
calls every week from people who throw kittens on barbecues because it's
funny. Or people who light cats on fire, or people who drag cats from cars.
It's so irresponsible that we wrote him after that interview came out and he
never got back to us. So we thought, you know, fair game, let's go for it."

According to PETA, with animal shelters overflowing, neutering and spaying
cats and dogs saves shelter-workers from having to put animals to death when
suitable homes cannot be found. Because Triumph's new album, Come Poop With
Me, is full of jokes about losing his private parts, he seemed a perfect
spokes-puppet.

"There's already been a huge response," says Matthews, whose office has been
bombarded by calls from angry Clay-mates. "When we explain why, they
understand it a bit better. In the end it's just funny. If you look at the
awful thing Clay said about cats, our ad in response is a pretty
lighthearted way to even up the score."

A spokesman for Clay Aiken had not comment on the ad.

DAVID SWANSON


---end paste---

At the risk of being flamed, I think people who thought "Clay called cats
"satan" so he must be a bad person and we should hate him and try to ruin
his reputation" are not that far off *in spirit* from those who might think,
"Clay called cats "satan" so cats must be bad and we should do evil things
to them." Two sides of the same coin, in my opinion.


rona (donning flame-retardant clothing)


Thanks for posting this, Rona. As I said in my post, I had just gotten it from
another board and didn't know if it was true or not. But the comment about
cats being Satan, well is strange for sure. I think most of us aren't haunted
by cat spirits as Satan. I think most of us who are *haunted* by such a thing
would be inspired to do good, make life right for another cat, in the spirit of
love, not Satan.

Lauren

________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm
  #47  
Old November 19th 03, 03:52 PM
Mary
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"Rona Yuthasastrakosol" wrote in message

And not liking cats does not equal being a bad person--a weird

person,
maybe, but certainly not bad.


You are very generous, and possibly right. However, I will never trust
anyone who doesn't like cats.



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  #48  
Old November 19th 03, 03:52 PM
Mary
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"Rona Yuthasastrakosol" wrote in message

And not liking cats does not equal being a bad person--a weird

person,
maybe, but certainly not bad.


You are very generous, and possibly right. However, I will never trust
anyone who doesn't like cats.



rona
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  #49  
Old November 19th 03, 03:52 PM
Mary
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"Rona Yuthasastrakosol" wrote in message

And not liking cats does not equal being a bad person--a weird

person,
maybe, but certainly not bad.


You are very generous, and possibly right. However, I will never trust
anyone who doesn't like cats.



rona
--
***For e-mail, replace .com with .ca Sorry for the

inconvenience!***




  #50  
Old November 19th 03, 03:59 PM
Mary
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"PawsForThought" wrote in message

But the comment about
cats being Satan, well is strange for sure. I think most of us

aren't haunted
by cat spirits as Satan. I think most of us who are *haunted* by

such a thing
would be inspired to do good, make life right for another cat, in

the spirit of
love, not Satan.


Precisely. His response should have been to adopt another cat and make
sure he lavished it with love. He's still a mincing little Queen in my
book. But then I don't like his music anyway.





Lauren

________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm



 




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