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Vetenarian 'killer'
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"eleaticus" wrote: Sorry for the crossposts. I just now checked out the cat groups but didn't really see which one would be best, nor how much overlap there is. My 15-year old, Sadie Bugbane, was abused on her first trip to the vet, and since then it is almost worth the vet's life to take her in the doc. She is small and the squeeze net is ineffective and a vet and helpers are sure to get slashed if they really try to do their job. Obviously, if she had a major problem her life would be in danger, her frantic, ferocious efforts to defend herself could only aggravate the injury/illness. BTW, she is absolutely gentle at all other times, except with other cats. So, the problem and question I pose, is there some way to alleviate the problem, to sedate her,as it were, before trying to get her to the vet? Or ... ? A complication is that she is a wrggler under the best circumstances, it being perhaps just ten percent of the time that she doesn't object - with gentle wriggles - to being picked up. Please help me out here, and realize that I haven't even slightly exaggerated the problem. You need to find a better vet. A good vet will know how to deal with a reluctant patient to get the job done with minimal discomfort to the pet. |
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I don't know if I would say poorly equipped - my vet is the only one in the Dallas area I know of with the squeeze cage. I think they just aren't for sale real readily, and he happened to see one at a trade show. Maybe more vets would have them if they were being marketed and sold more widely. It actually doesn't have hard edges - the bars are that black enamel-coated stuff like a bird cage. We can slide Bear into it and he never gets hurt. Julie So, what we really have here (at my vet) is a poorly equipped clinic. no squeeze cage (would have to see to believe its hard edges wouldn't harm Sadie) no sedative spray. -- eleaticus ee-lee-AT-i-cus "eleaticus" wrote in message .. . "Julie Porter" wrote in message nk.net... No, we've used that (the squeeze net) but the squeeze cage is like a regular small-animal cage or bird cage, and is just a tad larger than the cat - if you slide it up to the cat carrier and open the doors of both of them, you can get the cat into the squeeze cage. Then, after he's inside, one side of the squeeze cage can be slided in, so that the cat is in a cage that fits him completely and he can't lie down, or move his head or legs to bite or scratch, and it has little doors on the sides, like a bird cage would, so the vet can put his hand in to feel the cat, or can give him shots, etc. My vet got one at a vet trade show - he saw it and thought it would be perfect for very aggressive kitties. Julie thanks, julie. Is the 'cage' really a framed net? -- eleaticus ee-lee-AT-i-cus "eleaticus" wrote in message . .. "Julie Porter" wrote in message ink.net... We have had a lot of luck with the squeeze cage for Bear -- he also can't be touched at the vet's office, and it's really helpful when he's had a serious illness. Julie "eleaticus" wrote in message news Sorry for the crossposts. I just now checked out the cat groups but didn't really see which one would be best, nor how much overlap there is. My 15-year old, Sadie Bugbane, was abused on her first trip to the vet, and since then it is almost worth the vet's life to take her in the doc. She is small and the squeeze net is ineffective and a vet and helpers are sure to get slashed if they really try to do their job. Obviously, if she had a major problem her life would be in danger, her frantic, ferocious efforts to defend herself could only aggravate the injury/illness. BTW, she is absolutely gentle at all other times, except with other cats. So, the problem and question I pose, is there some way to alleviate the problem, to sedate her,as it were, before trying to get her to the vet? Or ... ? A complication is that she is a wrggler under the best circumstances, it being perhaps just ten percent of the time that she doesn't object - with gentle wriggles - to being picked up. Please help me out here, and realize that I haven't even slightly exaggerated the problem. -- eleaticus ee-lee-AT-i-cus |
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Ifn yu put up a fuss like mee, dayl just wait til yu get anustheezia tu
get yur teef cleened an du yur nailz den. Har! Har! My momm tryed to find da skweeze cage onlion and coud not find one. (My daughtur is a small black tuxido naimed Troodi!) Bear, big black tuxido "Stormmee" wrote in message ... small black tuxido puffs reading the screen,... diz meanz you kuld kut mine nailz wifout a fite??? Trudi, hopin it koztz tootoo muc Julie Porter wrote in message nk.net... No, we've used that (the squeeze net) but the squeeze cage is like a regular small-animal cage or bird cage, and is just a tad larger than the cat - if you slide it up to the cat carrier and open the doors of both of them, you can get the cat into the squeeze cage. Then, after he's inside, one side of the squeeze cage can be slided in, so that the cat is in a cage that fits him completely and he can't lie down, or move his head or legs to bite or scratch, and it has little doors on the sides, like a bird cage would, so the vet can put his hand in to feel the cat, or can give him shots, etc. My vet got one at a vet trade show - he saw it and thought it would be perfect for very aggressive kitties. Julie thanks, julie. Is the 'cage' really a framed net? -- eleaticus ee-lee-AT-i-cus "eleaticus" wrote in message . .. "Julie Porter" wrote in message ink.net... We have had a lot of luck with the squeeze cage for Bear -- he also can't be touched at the vet's office, and it's really helpful when he's had a serious illness. Julie "eleaticus" wrote in message news Sorry for the crossposts. I just now checked out the cat groups but didn't really see which one would be best, nor how much overlap there is. My 15-year old, Sadie Bugbane, was abused on her first trip to the vet, and since then it is almost worth the vet's life to take her in the doc. She is small and the squeeze net is ineffective and a vet and helpers are sure to get slashed if they really try to do their job. Obviously, if she had a major problem her life would be in danger, her frantic, ferocious efforts to defend herself could only aggravate the injury/illness. BTW, she is absolutely gentle at all other times, except with other cats. So, the problem and question I pose, is there some way to alleviate the problem, to sedate her,as it were, before trying to get her to the vet? Or ... ? A complication is that she is a wrggler under the best circumstances, it being perhaps just ten percent of the time that she doesn't object - with gentle wriggles - to being picked up. Please help me out here, and realize that I haven't even slightly exaggerated the problem. -- eleaticus ee-lee-AT-i-cus |
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Dats a fine idea. Call da sheriff!!
Bear "Stormmee" wrote in message ... we haf been katsiderin diz here idermint an we thinkz dey shuuld not be allowed, wonner if da purrsident ana sheriff rosco culld luk into diz situatin, Tiger Julie Porter wrote in message nk.net... Itz an instrOOment of torChure!!! Bear "Stormmee" wrote in message ... what please is a squeeze cage? soft Julie Porter wrote in message ink.net... We have had a lot of luck with the squeeze cage for Bear -- he also can't be touched at the vet's office, and it's really helpful when he's had a serious illness. Julie "eleaticus" wrote in message news Sorry for the crossposts. I just now checked out the cat groups but didn't really see which one would be best, nor how much overlap there is. My 15-year old, Sadie Bugbane, was abused on her first trip to the vet, and since then it is almost worth the vet's life to take her in the doc. She is small and the squeeze net is ineffective and a vet and helpers are sure to get slashed if they really try to do their job. Obviously, if she had a major problem her life would be in danger, her frantic, ferocious efforts to defend herself could only aggravate the injury/illness. BTW, she is absolutely gentle at all other times, except with other cats. So, the problem and question I pose, is there some way to alleviate the problem, to sedate her,as it were, before trying to get her to the vet? Or ... ? A complication is that she is a wrggler under the best circumstances, it being perhaps just ten percent of the time that she doesn't object - with gentle wriggles - to being picked up. Please help me out here, and realize that I haven't even slightly exaggerated the problem. -- eleaticus ee-lee-AT-i-cus |
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hi bear, i hasta*at leazt 'kordinta soft* haf mines nailz cut veri often kuz
she sayz dey kurlz unner anna wuuld go in mine pawpadz, Itz kule dat you hafa daughterkitty named da same az mineself, Trudi Julie Porter wrote in message nk.net... Ifn yu put up a fuss like mee, dayl just wait til yu get anustheezia tu get yur teef cleened an du yur nailz den. Har! Har! My momm tryed to find da skweeze cage onlion and coud not find one. (My daughtur is a small black tuxido naimed Troodi!) Bear, big black tuxido "Stormmee" wrote in message ... small black tuxido puffs reading the screen,... diz meanz you kuld kut mine nailz wifout a fite??? Trudi, hopin it koztz tootoo muc Julie Porter wrote in message nk.net... No, we've used that (the squeeze net) but the squeeze cage is like a regular small-animal cage or bird cage, and is just a tad larger than the cat - if you slide it up to the cat carrier and open the doors of both of them, you can get the cat into the squeeze cage. Then, after he's inside, one side of the squeeze cage can be slided in, so that the cat is in a cage that fits him completely and he can't lie down, or move his head or legs to bite or scratch, and it has little doors on the sides, like a bird cage would, so the vet can put his hand in to feel the cat, or can give him shots, etc. My vet got one at a vet trade show - he saw it and thought it would be perfect for very aggressive kitties. Julie thanks, julie. Is the 'cage' really a framed net? -- eleaticus ee-lee-AT-i-cus "eleaticus" wrote in message . .. "Julie Porter" wrote in message ink.net... We have had a lot of luck with the squeeze cage for Bear -- he also can't be touched at the vet's office, and it's really helpful when he's had a serious illness. Julie "eleaticus" wrote in message news Sorry for the crossposts. I just now checked out the cat groups but didn't really see which one would be best, nor how much overlap there is. My 15-year old, Sadie Bugbane, was abused on her first trip to the vet, and since then it is almost worth the vet's life to take her in the doc. She is small and the squeeze net is ineffective and a vet and helpers are sure to get slashed if they really try to do their job. Obviously, if she had a major problem her life would be in danger, her frantic, ferocious efforts to defend herself could only aggravate the injury/illness. BTW, she is absolutely gentle at all other times, except with other cats. So, the problem and question I pose, is there some way to alleviate the problem, to sedate her,as it were, before trying to get her to the vet? Or ... ? A complication is that she is a wrggler under the best circumstances, it being perhaps just ten percent of the time that she doesn't object - with gentle wriggles - to being picked up. Please help me out here, and realize that I haven't even slightly exaggerated the problem. -- eleaticus ee-lee-AT-i-cus |
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Owhh!! Well, its a gud fing that soft makes shure yur nails get dun.
Dats nise! Bear "Stormmee" wrote in message ... hi bear, i hasta*at leazt 'kordinta soft* haf mines nailz cut veri often kuz she sayz dey kurlz unner anna wuuld go in mine pawpadz, Itz kule dat you hafa daughterkitty named da same az mineself, Trudi Julie Porter wrote in message nk.net... Ifn yu put up a fuss like mee, dayl just wait til yu get anustheezia tu get yur teef cleened an du yur nailz den. Har! Har! My momm tryed to find da skweeze cage onlion and coud not find one. (My daughtur is a small black tuxido naimed Troodi!) Bear, big black tuxido "Stormmee" wrote in message ... small black tuxido puffs reading the screen,... diz meanz you kuld kut mine nailz wifout a fite??? Trudi, hopin it koztz tootoo muc Julie Porter wrote in message nk.net... No, we've used that (the squeeze net) but the squeeze cage is like a regular small-animal cage or bird cage, and is just a tad larger than the cat - if you slide it up to the cat carrier and open the doors of both of them, you can get the cat into the squeeze cage. Then, after he's inside, one side of the squeeze cage can be slided in, so that the cat is in a cage that fits him completely and he can't lie down, or move his head or legs to bite or scratch, and it has little doors on the sides, like a bird cage would, so the vet can put his hand in to feel the cat, or can give him shots, etc. My vet got one at a vet trade show - he saw it and thought it would be perfect for very aggressive kitties. Julie thanks, julie. Is the 'cage' really a framed net? -- eleaticus ee-lee-AT-i-cus "eleaticus" wrote in message . .. "Julie Porter" wrote in message ink.net... We have had a lot of luck with the squeeze cage for Bear -- he also can't be touched at the vet's office, and it's really helpful when he's had a serious illness. Julie "eleaticus" wrote in message news Sorry for the crossposts. I just now checked out the cat groups but didn't really see which one would be best, nor how much overlap there is. My 15-year old, Sadie Bugbane, was abused on her first trip to the vet, and since then it is almost worth the vet's life to take her in the doc. She is small and the squeeze net is ineffective and a vet and helpers are sure to get slashed if they really try to do their job. Obviously, if she had a major problem her life would be in danger, her frantic, ferocious efforts to defend herself could only aggravate the injury/illness. BTW, she is absolutely gentle at all other times, except with other cats. So, the problem and question I pose, is there some way to alleviate the problem, to sedate her,as it were, before trying to get her to the vet? Or ... ? A complication is that she is a wrggler under the best circumstances, it being perhaps just ten percent of the time that she doesn't object - with gentle wriggles - to being picked up. Please help me out here, and realize that I haven't even slightly exaggerated the problem. -- eleaticus ee-lee-AT-i-cus |
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soft remfurz anna furri kutz dem, he iz veri luki he iz a mozt wonnerful
hooman, Trudi, ominusly Julie Porter wrote in message nk.net... Owhh!! Well, its a gud fing that soft makes shure yur nails get dun. Dats nise! Bear "Stormmee" wrote in message ... hi bear, i hasta*at leazt 'kordinta soft* haf mines nailz cut veri often kuz she sayz dey kurlz unner anna wuuld go in mine pawpadz, Itz kule dat you hafa daughterkitty named da same az mineself, Trudi Julie Porter wrote in message nk.net... Ifn yu put up a fuss like mee, dayl just wait til yu get anustheezia tu get yur teef cleened an du yur nailz den. Har! Har! My momm tryed to find da skweeze cage onlion and coud not find one. (My daughtur is a small black tuxido naimed Troodi!) Bear, big black tuxido "Stormmee" wrote in message ... small black tuxido puffs reading the screen,... diz meanz you kuld kut mine nailz wifout a fite??? Trudi, hopin it koztz tootoo muc Julie Porter wrote in message nk.net... No, we've used that (the squeeze net) but the squeeze cage is like a regular small-animal cage or bird cage, and is just a tad larger than the cat - if you slide it up to the cat carrier and open the doors of both of them, you can get the cat into the squeeze cage. Then, after he's inside, one side of the squeeze cage can be slided in, so that the cat is in a cage that fits him completely and he can't lie down, or move his head or legs to bite or scratch, and it has little doors on the sides, like a bird cage would, so the vet can put his hand in to feel the cat, or can give him shots, etc. My vet got one at a vet trade show - he saw it and thought it would be perfect for very aggressive kitties. Julie thanks, julie. Is the 'cage' really a framed net? -- eleaticus ee-lee-AT-i-cus "eleaticus" wrote in message . .. "Julie Porter" wrote in message ink.net... We have had a lot of luck with the squeeze cage for Bear -- he also can't be touched at the vet's office, and it's really helpful when he's had a serious illness. Julie "eleaticus" wrote in message news Sorry for the crossposts. I just now checked out the cat groups but didn't really see which one would be best, nor how much overlap there is. My 15-year old, Sadie Bugbane, was abused on her first trip to the vet, and since then it is almost worth the vet's life to take her in the doc. She is small and the squeeze net is ineffective and a vet and helpers are sure to get slashed if they really try to do their job. Obviously, if she had a major problem her life would be in danger, her frantic, ferocious efforts to defend herself could only aggravate the injury/illness. BTW, she is absolutely gentle at all other times, except with other cats. So, the problem and question I pose, is there some way to alleviate the problem, to sedate her,as it were, before trying to get her to the vet? Or ... ? A complication is that she is a wrggler under the best circumstances, it being perhaps just ten percent of the time that she doesn't object - with gentle wriggles - to being picked up. Please help me out here, and realize that I haven't even slightly exaggerated the problem. -- eleaticus ee-lee-AT-i-cus |
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Amen to that. I have yet to see a vet that couldn't scruff a cat and
subsequently immobilize him. All you need to do is get a good scruff, catch the hind legs, and stretch him out. It sounds like a torture technique, but it is actually very gentle (but firm). Stretching them out just places them in a position where then cannot get any leverage to wriggle free. ----------------------------- http://www.OdorDestroyer.com Powerful pet odor removers for powerful pet odors. Shawn Hirn wrote: You need to find a better vet. A good vet will know how to deal with a reluctant patient to get the job done with minimal discomfort to the pet. |
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"OdorDestroyer.com" wrote in message
... Amen to that. I have yet to see a vet that couldn't scruff a cat and subsequently immobilize him. All you need to do is get a good scruff, catch the hind legs, and stretch him out. It sounds like a torture technique, but it is actually very gentle (but firm). Stretching them out just places them in a position where then cannot get any leverage to wriggle free. We're not talking about restraining Sadie BugBane BEFORE she is in a terrified wild rage, but afterwards. She becomes dangerous as soon as she enters the vet door. No doubt from the odors in the air. You can NOT grab a hold on her at all, let alone by the scruff. -- eleaticus ee-lee-AT-i-cus |
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