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"Kreisleriana" wrote in message
... On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 07:30:42 -0700, Seanette Blaylock yodeled: "Yowie" had some very interesting things to say about "go down cellar": I'm remembering when I rang a very fancy hotel in Minneapolis to talk to my friend who was away on business. I used to think I didn't have a particularly strong Australian accent, but the receptionist simply couldn't understand me until I started speaking in my fake American accent. For a hotel that would surely get guests from all over the world, I would have thought my accent would not present a problem, but perhaps Australian sounds *particularly* strange to American ears. Not to me, it doesn't, and I happen to like the Aussie accent. I like the sound. :-) I lived with one for quite a few years. You get used to it. Sometimes you can even understand it. :P But I have to say that when I was hearing news reports on NPR about the recent Australian election, I was almost jolted out of bed by the strength of Howard's ("Haaaaaaaad") and Latham's accents. 'Strewth! Both speak with quite an "educated" city accents (except for Mr Howards characteristic "aaah" and "umm"s) and would have most likely taken eloquotion(sp?) lessons. The way the speak is similar to our news anchor people, which have to speak "correctly" (for an Aussie, anyway). The further you go from the cities, the stronger the accent and slower the drawl. People from Far North Queensland, Northern Territory and the northern bit of Western Australia have much stronger accents than us urbanites, who in comparison speak very fast and "clip" our words. Yowie |
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"Yowie" wrote in message
... "Yoj" wrote in message m... "Kreisleriana" wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:48:18 +1300, Bev yodeled: Cheryl Perkins wrote: Kreisleriana wrote: The former Mr. T (an Aussie) had people remark to him that it must be cool to live in a country from where you could drive all over Europe. :P I've heard that many people think that Australia and Austria are the same place, which would certainly lead to that kind of confusion! -- Cheryl Even funnier are the people who think that Australia and New Zealand are part of the same country or people who think New Zealand is a part of Holland or Alaska. When we travelled around the US recently few people could pick our accents. They always began by thinking we were English, no, Australian then, nooo, then they gave up Bev "New Zealand: The Canada of Australia" Forget New Zealand (I don't mean really)! That's beyond most of our ken. In fact it was beyond my Aussie Mr. T's ken, too, but I think that was on purpose. :P I don't know it it is because I am so familiar with "down-under" accents that I don't see why most Americans mistake them for English. But I suppose that there are so many English accents that they think that those just might be a couple more. Theresa Actually, the most common Aussie accent bears a definite resemblance to the English Cockney accent. There is also the fact that a large number of Aussies came from England originally, and never lost their English accent. To your American ears, it probably does, but I suspect I and alot of other Aussies (and Cockneys) would disagree. As I said up thread, its probably what you are used to, and since youaren't used to either accent, you can hear the similarities, but I can't. Then again, as speech patterns go, both Aussies and Cockneys do employ alot of rhyming slang. Yowie Maybe what I'm really hearing is that to me, an Aussie accent sounds closer to a Cockney accent than to an American accent (whichever one you're talking about) - except that I notice that some Aussies add an "r" to the end of words that don't have one, and so do some Americans - Bostonians, for instance. Joy Joy |
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"Yowie" wrote in message
... "Yoj" wrote in message m... "Kreisleriana" wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:48:18 +1300, Bev yodeled: Cheryl Perkins wrote: Kreisleriana wrote: The former Mr. T (an Aussie) had people remark to him that it must be cool to live in a country from where you could drive all over Europe. :P I've heard that many people think that Australia and Austria are the same place, which would certainly lead to that kind of confusion! -- Cheryl Even funnier are the people who think that Australia and New Zealand are part of the same country or people who think New Zealand is a part of Holland or Alaska. When we travelled around the US recently few people could pick our accents. They always began by thinking we were English, no, Australian then, nooo, then they gave up Bev "New Zealand: The Canada of Australia" Forget New Zealand (I don't mean really)! That's beyond most of our ken. In fact it was beyond my Aussie Mr. T's ken, too, but I think that was on purpose. :P I don't know it it is because I am so familiar with "down-under" accents that I don't see why most Americans mistake them for English. But I suppose that there are so many English accents that they think that those just might be a couple more. Theresa Actually, the most common Aussie accent bears a definite resemblance to the English Cockney accent. There is also the fact that a large number of Aussies came from England originally, and never lost their English accent. To your American ears, it probably does, but I suspect I and alot of other Aussies (and Cockneys) would disagree. As I said up thread, its probably what you are used to, and since youaren't used to either accent, you can hear the similarities, but I can't. Then again, as speech patterns go, both Aussies and Cockneys do employ alot of rhyming slang. Yowie Maybe what I'm really hearing is that to me, an Aussie accent sounds closer to a Cockney accent than to an American accent (whichever one you're talking about) - except that I notice that some Aussies add an "r" to the end of words that don't have one, and so do some Americans - Bostonians, for instance. Joy Joy |
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"Yowie" wrote in message
... "Yoj" wrote in message m... "Kreisleriana" wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:48:18 +1300, Bev yodeled: Cheryl Perkins wrote: Kreisleriana wrote: The former Mr. T (an Aussie) had people remark to him that it must be cool to live in a country from where you could drive all over Europe. :P I've heard that many people think that Australia and Austria are the same place, which would certainly lead to that kind of confusion! -- Cheryl Even funnier are the people who think that Australia and New Zealand are part of the same country or people who think New Zealand is a part of Holland or Alaska. When we travelled around the US recently few people could pick our accents. They always began by thinking we were English, no, Australian then, nooo, then they gave up Bev "New Zealand: The Canada of Australia" Forget New Zealand (I don't mean really)! That's beyond most of our ken. In fact it was beyond my Aussie Mr. T's ken, too, but I think that was on purpose. :P I don't know it it is because I am so familiar with "down-under" accents that I don't see why most Americans mistake them for English. But I suppose that there are so many English accents that they think that those just might be a couple more. Theresa Actually, the most common Aussie accent bears a definite resemblance to the English Cockney accent. There is also the fact that a large number of Aussies came from England originally, and never lost their English accent. To your American ears, it probably does, but I suspect I and alot of other Aussies (and Cockneys) would disagree. As I said up thread, its probably what you are used to, and since youaren't used to either accent, you can hear the similarities, but I can't. Then again, as speech patterns go, both Aussies and Cockneys do employ alot of rhyming slang. Yowie Maybe what I'm really hearing is that to me, an Aussie accent sounds closer to a Cockney accent than to an American accent (whichever one you're talking about) - except that I notice that some Aussies add an "r" to the end of words that don't have one, and so do some Americans - Bostonians, for instance. Joy Joy |
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"Yowie" wrote in message
... "Kreisleriana" wrote in message ... On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 07:30:42 -0700, Seanette Blaylock yodeled: "Yowie" had some very interesting things to say about "go down cellar": I'm remembering when I rang a very fancy hotel in Minneapolis to talk to my friend who was away on business. I used to think I didn't have a particularly strong Australian accent, but the receptionist simply couldn't understand me until I started speaking in my fake American accent. For a hotel that would surely get guests from all over the world, I would have thought my accent would not present a problem, but perhaps Australian sounds *particularly* strange to American ears. Not to me, it doesn't, and I happen to like the Aussie accent. I like the sound. :-) I lived with one for quite a few years. You get used to it. Sometimes you can even understand it. :P But I have to say that when I was hearing news reports on NPR about the recent Australian election, I was almost jolted out of bed by the strength of Howard's ("Haaaaaaaad") and Latham's accents. 'Strewth! Both speak with quite an "educated" city accents (except for Mr Howards characteristic "aaah" and "umm"s) and would have most likely taken eloquotion(sp?) lessons. The way the speak is similar to our news anchor people, which have to speak "correctly" (for an Aussie, anyway). The further you go from the cities, the stronger the accent and slower the drawl. People from Far North Queensland, Northern Territory and the northern bit of Western Australia have much stronger accents than us urbanites, who in comparison speak very fast and "clip" our words. Yowie On my first trip to Australia, I didn't notice any difference in accents in the various places I visited. On my second trip, I noticed some differences, as well as different speech patterns. For instance, most places I went, the usual greeting was "G'day". In Darwin, it was, "Howaya?" I noticed a few times, though, that if one Aussie greeted another with "Howaya?", the other usually responded by saying "G'day". I have some Aussie CD's, and find that, although their accents aren't the same, both John Williamson and Lazy Harry have what I would call an Aussie accent. To my dismay, Slim Dusty pronounced most words the same way I do. In fact, one song ("We've Done us Proud") sounds as though it could have been written about the United States, and there is nothing in his pronunciation to give a clue otherwise. I say to my dismay, because I like the Aussie accent, and I like Aussie slang too. Joy |
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"Yowie" wrote in message
... "Kreisleriana" wrote in message ... On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 07:30:42 -0700, Seanette Blaylock yodeled: "Yowie" had some very interesting things to say about "go down cellar": I'm remembering when I rang a very fancy hotel in Minneapolis to talk to my friend who was away on business. I used to think I didn't have a particularly strong Australian accent, but the receptionist simply couldn't understand me until I started speaking in my fake American accent. For a hotel that would surely get guests from all over the world, I would have thought my accent would not present a problem, but perhaps Australian sounds *particularly* strange to American ears. Not to me, it doesn't, and I happen to like the Aussie accent. I like the sound. :-) I lived with one for quite a few years. You get used to it. Sometimes you can even understand it. :P But I have to say that when I was hearing news reports on NPR about the recent Australian election, I was almost jolted out of bed by the strength of Howard's ("Haaaaaaaad") and Latham's accents. 'Strewth! Both speak with quite an "educated" city accents (except for Mr Howards characteristic "aaah" and "umm"s) and would have most likely taken eloquotion(sp?) lessons. The way the speak is similar to our news anchor people, which have to speak "correctly" (for an Aussie, anyway). The further you go from the cities, the stronger the accent and slower the drawl. People from Far North Queensland, Northern Territory and the northern bit of Western Australia have much stronger accents than us urbanites, who in comparison speak very fast and "clip" our words. Yowie On my first trip to Australia, I didn't notice any difference in accents in the various places I visited. On my second trip, I noticed some differences, as well as different speech patterns. For instance, most places I went, the usual greeting was "G'day". In Darwin, it was, "Howaya?" I noticed a few times, though, that if one Aussie greeted another with "Howaya?", the other usually responded by saying "G'day". I have some Aussie CD's, and find that, although their accents aren't the same, both John Williamson and Lazy Harry have what I would call an Aussie accent. To my dismay, Slim Dusty pronounced most words the same way I do. In fact, one song ("We've Done us Proud") sounds as though it could have been written about the United States, and there is nothing in his pronunciation to give a clue otherwise. I say to my dismay, because I like the Aussie accent, and I like Aussie slang too. Joy |
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"Yowie" wrote in message
... "Kreisleriana" wrote in message ... On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 07:30:42 -0700, Seanette Blaylock yodeled: "Yowie" had some very interesting things to say about "go down cellar": I'm remembering when I rang a very fancy hotel in Minneapolis to talk to my friend who was away on business. I used to think I didn't have a particularly strong Australian accent, but the receptionist simply couldn't understand me until I started speaking in my fake American accent. For a hotel that would surely get guests from all over the world, I would have thought my accent would not present a problem, but perhaps Australian sounds *particularly* strange to American ears. Not to me, it doesn't, and I happen to like the Aussie accent. I like the sound. :-) I lived with one for quite a few years. You get used to it. Sometimes you can even understand it. :P But I have to say that when I was hearing news reports on NPR about the recent Australian election, I was almost jolted out of bed by the strength of Howard's ("Haaaaaaaad") and Latham's accents. 'Strewth! Both speak with quite an "educated" city accents (except for Mr Howards characteristic "aaah" and "umm"s) and would have most likely taken eloquotion(sp?) lessons. The way the speak is similar to our news anchor people, which have to speak "correctly" (for an Aussie, anyway). The further you go from the cities, the stronger the accent and slower the drawl. People from Far North Queensland, Northern Territory and the northern bit of Western Australia have much stronger accents than us urbanites, who in comparison speak very fast and "clip" our words. Yowie On my first trip to Australia, I didn't notice any difference in accents in the various places I visited. On my second trip, I noticed some differences, as well as different speech patterns. For instance, most places I went, the usual greeting was "G'day". In Darwin, it was, "Howaya?" I noticed a few times, though, that if one Aussie greeted another with "Howaya?", the other usually responded by saying "G'day". I have some Aussie CD's, and find that, although their accents aren't the same, both John Williamson and Lazy Harry have what I would call an Aussie accent. To my dismay, Slim Dusty pronounced most words the same way I do. In fact, one song ("We've Done us Proud") sounds as though it could have been written about the United States, and there is nothing in his pronunciation to give a clue otherwise. I say to my dismay, because I like the Aussie accent, and I like Aussie slang too. Joy |
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On Sun, 24 Oct, Theresa wrote:
---------------------snip---------------------- Take it from me, they have vowels and diphthongs down there that never appeared in the British Isles. Speaking of diphthongs, DH and I were visiting Oahu with her brother and his then-current flame, Cher. We were driving along looking for the Kalanianiole Highway and discussing the mellifluous Hawaiian language. I remarked, hoping to get either DH's brother or companion to bite, that you never knew what was a diphthong. "What's a diphthong?" asked Cher, taking the bait. "You see" I replied, "that's what you never know!" Regards and Purrs, O J |
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On Sun, 24 Oct, Theresa wrote:
---------------------snip---------------------- Take it from me, they have vowels and diphthongs down there that never appeared in the British Isles. Speaking of diphthongs, DH and I were visiting Oahu with her brother and his then-current flame, Cher. We were driving along looking for the Kalanianiole Highway and discussing the mellifluous Hawaiian language. I remarked, hoping to get either DH's brother or companion to bite, that you never knew what was a diphthong. "What's a diphthong?" asked Cher, taking the bait. "You see" I replied, "that's what you never know!" Regards and Purrs, O J |
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On Sun, 24 Oct, Theresa wrote:
---------------------snip---------------------- Take it from me, they have vowels and diphthongs down there that never appeared in the British Isles. Speaking of diphthongs, DH and I were visiting Oahu with her brother and his then-current flame, Cher. We were driving along looking for the Kalanianiole Highway and discussing the mellifluous Hawaiian language. I remarked, hoping to get either DH's brother or companion to bite, that you never knew what was a diphthong. "What's a diphthong?" asked Cher, taking the bait. "You see" I replied, "that's what you never know!" Regards and Purrs, O J |
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