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Old August 27th 04, 05:43 PM
Bill Stock
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":-)Liz" wrote in message
m...
Ok, other than the fact the kitties keep trying to help me work on my
computer(getting their wittle fuzzy heads and furry paws in the way...)

this
doesn't really involve kitties......my Big 120 gig hard drive died last
night(I'd moved most of everything out of my C drive and place it
here..."for safe keeping" when I got this drive at Xmas)...Alas, when it
died... it took with it ALL my mail, 90% of my programs,and
applications,records, info,cat pictures, ect....(sadly it took all my cat
and other videos, Flash or otherwise...sigggghhhhhh Cat Herding and Cows
Have Guns)....I want to inquire...is there a way to retrieve my data and
such from the dead drive? Can it be removed and taken somewhere and the

info
be extracted or is that just something tv/movies show
happening?.....Sighhhhhhhhhhhhh :-)Liz(who is atleast up and running with

my
news groups reinstalled, though, without not much else as this is a small
hard drive with little room left on it)


Liz,

Most drive recovery places are fairly pricey. Meant for recovering company
records and that sort of stuff.

But you should be able to install the drive as a slave and get most of your
data off. It's likely just a problem with a few sectors on your C drive.
Since you have backups on the other partitions you should be OK. Even if the
motor is toast, there is the option above, if you want to spend the $$$.

An external USB/Firewire drive is probably best for backups.



  #12  
Old August 27th 04, 08:07 PM
Christopher Havlicek
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:-)Liz wrote:
The reason for this..."in theory" it's usually the C Drive that cra*s
out...or so I was told...and alas believed( STUPID me, I thought I was
backupped)...Aggggggghhhhhhhh... I want all my old mail...I'll miss it more
than anything else as it had reports and such about our various kitties
present and RB...funny things reported about them and such......:-) Liz
snipped for server rules

delurk
Hi Liz -

Sorry to hear about the drive crash. Can you tell if the drive was
even spinning up? If so, it might just be the boot sector and/or
boot partition that has failed. You *may* still be able to retrieve
other data from it if you install it as a slave drive.

Also, if it's still under warranty, some manufacturers will offer
data retrieval from a warranted disk. Others charge, but sometimes
offer cut rates.

Often it *is* the C: drive that crashes, since it's constantly getting
accessed for booting and running the operating system. If that's on
the same physical drive as all the other partitions, then it might seem
as if the drive has died, since you may not be able to get the operating
system going enough to *see* the drive. If you have another drive
that's working as a boot drive, you can put the dysfunctional drive
in that same system as a slave, and see if you can access the data
in the other partitions.

I got in to the habit of suggesting to customers that they use one
drive as the boot drive, and have all their data on another physically
separate drive in the machine. With that configuration *and* a periodic
backup of data on to a CD or some other archive, you usually only
lose a little data, not all of it. Different partitions work almost as
well, unless the drive is physically dead (rather than just impaired).

Good luck!

Purrs-

Chris, Tripper, Katie and Hazard (who always try to contribute
*something* to the latest project)
/delurk

  #13  
Old August 27th 04, 08:07 PM
Christopher Havlicek
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:-)Liz wrote:
The reason for this..."in theory" it's usually the C Drive that cra*s
out...or so I was told...and alas believed( STUPID me, I thought I was
backupped)...Aggggggghhhhhhhh... I want all my old mail...I'll miss it more
than anything else as it had reports and such about our various kitties
present and RB...funny things reported about them and such......:-) Liz
snipped for server rules

delurk
Hi Liz -

Sorry to hear about the drive crash. Can you tell if the drive was
even spinning up? If so, it might just be the boot sector and/or
boot partition that has failed. You *may* still be able to retrieve
other data from it if you install it as a slave drive.

Also, if it's still under warranty, some manufacturers will offer
data retrieval from a warranted disk. Others charge, but sometimes
offer cut rates.

Often it *is* the C: drive that crashes, since it's constantly getting
accessed for booting and running the operating system. If that's on
the same physical drive as all the other partitions, then it might seem
as if the drive has died, since you may not be able to get the operating
system going enough to *see* the drive. If you have another drive
that's working as a boot drive, you can put the dysfunctional drive
in that same system as a slave, and see if you can access the data
in the other partitions.

I got in to the habit of suggesting to customers that they use one
drive as the boot drive, and have all their data on another physically
separate drive in the machine. With that configuration *and* a periodic
backup of data on to a CD or some other archive, you usually only
lose a little data, not all of it. Different partitions work almost as
well, unless the drive is physically dead (rather than just impaired).

Good luck!

Purrs-

Chris, Tripper, Katie and Hazard (who always try to contribute
*something* to the latest project)
/delurk

  #14  
Old August 27th 04, 10:01 PM
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Sorry, I have no idea what can be done, but am sending lots of best wishes
for someone else to find a solution to your problem,
--
Polonca & Soncek

":-)Liz" wrote in message
m...
Ok, other than the fact the kitties keep trying to help me work on my
computer(getting their wittle fuzzy heads and furry paws in the way...)

this
doesn't really involve kitties......my Big 120 gig hard drive died last
nightsnip



  #15  
Old August 27th 04, 10:01 PM
polonca12000
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Sorry, I have no idea what can be done, but am sending lots of best wishes
for someone else to find a solution to your problem,
--
Polonca & Soncek

":-)Liz" wrote in message
m...
Ok, other than the fact the kitties keep trying to help me work on my
computer(getting their wittle fuzzy heads and furry paws in the way...)

this
doesn't really involve kitties......my Big 120 gig hard drive died last
nightsnip



  #16  
Old August 28th 04, 06:00 PM
:-\)Liz
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Well, not being the best at computer repair and not being able to get the
drives manufacture to give me any help and finding no one willing to work on
such a small drive recovery...I guess, Ill just have to limp along without
most every application/program and my old mail gone.....until I can afford
to get a new drive and or when DH is back in country and can try his hand at
recovery...sigggn...At least I am able to be online(after unplugging the
dead drive... my C Drive will boot up again) ...the drive that died was my
secondary drive...at Christmas, after a overhaul of my puter....the mail and
all applications were moved to this drive(the 120 gig one)(for safe keeping
hhahaahhahaha)..(E...with it partitioned into E,F,G,and H)Scan Disk tries to
scan but finds sector/cluster problems at 15% in E and freezes up.....and
so...I shall unplug the drive again ...and do what I can with what I have
left....:-) Liz

":-)Liz" wrote in message
m...
Ok, other than the fact the kitties keep trying to help me work on my
computer(getting their wittle fuzzy heads and furry paws in the way...)

this
doesn't really involve kitties......my Big 120 gig hard drive died last
night(I'd moved most of everything out of my C drive and place it
here..."for safe keeping" when I got this drive at Xmas)...Alas, when it
died... it took with it ALL my mail, 90% of my programs,and
applications,records, info,cat pictures, ect....(sadly it took all my cat
and other videos, Flash or otherwise...sigggghhhhhh Cat Herding and Cows
Have Guns)....I want to inquire...is there a way to retrieve my data and
such from the dead drive? Can it be removed and taken somewhere and the

info
be extracted or is that just something tv/movies show
happening?.....Sighhhhhhhhhhhhh :-)Liz(who is atleast up and running with

my
news groups reinstalled, though, without not much else as this is a small
hard drive with little room left on it)




  #17  
Old August 28th 04, 06:00 PM
:-\)Liz
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Well, not being the best at computer repair and not being able to get the
drives manufacture to give me any help and finding no one willing to work on
such a small drive recovery...I guess, Ill just have to limp along without
most every application/program and my old mail gone.....until I can afford
to get a new drive and or when DH is back in country and can try his hand at
recovery...sigggn...At least I am able to be online(after unplugging the
dead drive... my C Drive will boot up again) ...the drive that died was my
secondary drive...at Christmas, after a overhaul of my puter....the mail and
all applications were moved to this drive(the 120 gig one)(for safe keeping
hhahaahhahaha)..(E...with it partitioned into E,F,G,and H)Scan Disk tries to
scan but finds sector/cluster problems at 15% in E and freezes up.....and
so...I shall unplug the drive again ...and do what I can with what I have
left....:-) Liz

":-)Liz" wrote in message
m...
Ok, other than the fact the kitties keep trying to help me work on my
computer(getting their wittle fuzzy heads and furry paws in the way...)

this
doesn't really involve kitties......my Big 120 gig hard drive died last
night(I'd moved most of everything out of my C drive and place it
here..."for safe keeping" when I got this drive at Xmas)...Alas, when it
died... it took with it ALL my mail, 90% of my programs,and
applications,records, info,cat pictures, ect....(sadly it took all my cat
and other videos, Flash or otherwise...sigggghhhhhh Cat Herding and Cows
Have Guns)....I want to inquire...is there a way to retrieve my data and
such from the dead drive? Can it be removed and taken somewhere and the

info
be extracted or is that just something tv/movies show
happening?.....Sighhhhhhhhhhhhh :-)Liz(who is atleast up and running with

my
news groups reinstalled, though, without not much else as this is a small
hard drive with little room left on it)




  #18  
Old August 28th 04, 06:01 PM
Bob M
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Christopher Havlicek wrote:

:-)Liz wrote:
The reason for this..."in theory" it's usually the C Drive that cra*s
out...or so I was told...and alas believed( STUPID me, I thought I was
backupped)...Aggggggghhhhhhhh... I want all my old mail...I'll miss it more
than anything else as it had reports and such about our various kitties
present and RB...funny things reported about them and such......:-) Liz
snipped for server rules

delurk
Hi Liz -

Sorry to hear about the drive crash. Can you tell if the drive was
even spinning up? If so, it might just be the boot sector and/or
boot partition that has failed. You *may* still be able to retrieve
other data from it if you install it as a slave drive.

Also, if it's still under warranty, some manufacturers will offer
data retrieval from a warranted disk. Others charge, but sometimes
offer cut rates.

Often it *is* the C: drive that crashes, since it's constantly getting
accessed for booting and running the operating system. If that's on
the same physical drive as all the other partitions, then it might seem
as if the drive has died, since you may not be able to get the operating
system going enough to *see* the drive. If you have another drive
that's working as a boot drive, you can put the dysfunctional drive
in that same system as a slave, and see if you can access the data
in the other partitions.

I got in to the habit of suggesting to customers that they use one
drive as the boot drive, and have all their data on another physically
separate drive in the machine. With that configuration *and* a periodic
backup of data on to a CD or some other archive, you usually only
lose a little data, not all of it. Different partitions work almost as
well, unless the drive is physically dead (rather than just impaired).

Good luck!

Purrs-

Chris, Tripper, Katie and Hazard (who always try to contribute
*something* to the latest project)
/delurk


The above info is good. Also people have had good results by sticking
the old drive in the freezer for a few hours. Then put it in the
computer and transfer your data to a new drive. Quite a few times this
will allow you just enough time to get your data off the old drive.

Bob
--
Takeoff is an option.
Landing is a must!


And in the end on wheels we will depend.
  #19  
Old August 28th 04, 06:01 PM
Bob M
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Christopher Havlicek wrote:

:-)Liz wrote:
The reason for this..."in theory" it's usually the C Drive that cra*s
out...or so I was told...and alas believed( STUPID me, I thought I was
backupped)...Aggggggghhhhhhhh... I want all my old mail...I'll miss it more
than anything else as it had reports and such about our various kitties
present and RB...funny things reported about them and such......:-) Liz
snipped for server rules

delurk
Hi Liz -

Sorry to hear about the drive crash. Can you tell if the drive was
even spinning up? If so, it might just be the boot sector and/or
boot partition that has failed. You *may* still be able to retrieve
other data from it if you install it as a slave drive.

Also, if it's still under warranty, some manufacturers will offer
data retrieval from a warranted disk. Others charge, but sometimes
offer cut rates.

Often it *is* the C: drive that crashes, since it's constantly getting
accessed for booting and running the operating system. If that's on
the same physical drive as all the other partitions, then it might seem
as if the drive has died, since you may not be able to get the operating
system going enough to *see* the drive. If you have another drive
that's working as a boot drive, you can put the dysfunctional drive
in that same system as a slave, and see if you can access the data
in the other partitions.

I got in to the habit of suggesting to customers that they use one
drive as the boot drive, and have all their data on another physically
separate drive in the machine. With that configuration *and* a periodic
backup of data on to a CD or some other archive, you usually only
lose a little data, not all of it. Different partitions work almost as
well, unless the drive is physically dead (rather than just impaired).

Good luck!

Purrs-

Chris, Tripper, Katie and Hazard (who always try to contribute
*something* to the latest project)
/delurk


The above info is good. Also people have had good results by sticking
the old drive in the freezer for a few hours. Then put it in the
computer and transfer your data to a new drive. Quite a few times this
will allow you just enough time to get your data off the old drive.

Bob
--
Takeoff is an option.
Landing is a must!


And in the end on wheels we will depend.
  #20  
Old August 28th 04, 06:38 PM
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 17:00:23 GMT, ":-\)Liz"
wrote:

Well, not being the best at computer repair and not being able to get the
drives manufacture to give me any help and finding no one willing to work on
such a small drive recovery...I guess, Ill just have to limp along without
most every application/program and my old mail gone.....until I can afford
to get a new drive and or when DH is back in country and can try his hand at
recovery...sigggn...At least I am able to be online(after unplugging the
dead drive... my C Drive will boot up again) ...the drive that died was my
secondary drive...at Christmas, after a overhaul of my puter....the mail and
all applications were moved to this drive(the 120 gig one)(for safe keeping
hhahaahhahaha)..(E...with it partitioned into E,F,G,and H)Scan Disk tries to
scan but finds sector/cluster problems at 15% in E and freezes up.....and
so...I shall unplug the drive again ...and do what I can with what I have
left....:-) Liz

":-)Liz" wrote in message
om...
Ok, other than the fact the kitties keep trying to help me work on my
computer(getting their wittle fuzzy heads and furry paws in the way...)

this
doesn't really involve kitties......my Big 120 gig hard drive died last
night(I'd moved most of everything out of my C drive and place it
here..."for safe keeping" when I got this drive at Xmas)...Alas, when it
died... it took with it ALL my mail, 90% of my programs,and
applications,records, info,cat pictures, ect....(sadly it took all my cat
and other videos, Flash or otherwise...sigggghhhhhh Cat Herding and Cows
Have Guns)....I want to inquire...is there a way to retrieve my data and
such from the dead drive? Can it be removed and taken somewhere and the

info
be extracted or is that just something tv/movies show
happening?.....Sighhhhhhhhhhhhh :-)Liz(who is atleast up and running with

my
news groups reinstalled, though, without not much else as this is a small
hard drive with little room left on it)



Liz:
Try the ultimate boot CD.
lf you have a CD burner that can do ISO files.
Here is the link.
http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/

It has some very useful tools that might help you out.


 




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