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Old October 25th 12, 06:03 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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Default Must see movie trailer- The Paw Project anti-declawing documentary


http://pawprojectmovie.com/
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Old October 26th 12, 06:53 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Christina Websell
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Default Must see movie trailer- The Paw Project anti-declawing documentary


"Catlady" wrote in message
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http://pawprojectmovie.com/


You are probably preaching to the converted on here.

It's illegal in my country unless for deep-seated nail bed infections that
don't respond to any other treatment. I've never seen a declawed cat.

My suggestion is that if any of you use a vet that encourages
spaying/neutering and declawing at the same time, you ask why that vet
thinks it's acceptable and why they suggest it.
I'd be banned from my vet's surgery forever if I asked him to declaw a cat
to protect my furniture or in case they ever scratched me. He'd think I
was mad.
Vets need to stop offering this.













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Old October 26th 12, 07:33 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
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Default Must see movie trailer- The Paw Project anti-declawing documentary



Christina Websell wrote:
"Catlady" wrote in message
...
http://pawprojectmovie.com/


You are probably preaching to the converted on here.

It's illegal in my country unless for deep-seated nail bed infections that
don't respond to any other treatment. I've never seen a declawed cat.

My suggestion is that if any of you use a vet that encourages
spaying/neutering and declawing at the same time, you ask why that vet
thinks it's acceptable and why they suggest it.
I'd be banned from my vet's surgery forever if I asked him to declaw a cat
to protect my furniture or in case they ever scratched me. He'd think I
was mad.
Vets need to stop offering this.


I stopped using my (otherwise caring) vet in Pasadena CA when I
discovered that the "laser surgery" he advertised was for declawing!
Cendrillon had been declawed before I adopted her (but I was hardly
going to refuse to adopt an abandoned cat because of that). So far as
the spaying or neutering at the same time as the claw surgery goes - I'd
had her a week when she came in heat!
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Old October 26th 12, 08:14 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Christina Websell
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Default Must see movie trailer- The Paw Project anti-declawing documentary


"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
m...


Christina Websell wrote:
"Catlady" wrote in message
...
http://pawprojectmovie.com/


You are probably preaching to the converted on here.

It's illegal in my country unless for deep-seated nail bed infections
that don't respond to any other treatment. I've never seen a declawed
cat.

My suggestion is that if any of you use a vet that encourages
spaying/neutering and declawing at the same time, you ask why that vet
thinks it's acceptable and why they suggest it.
I'd be banned from my vet's surgery forever if I asked him to declaw a
cat to protect my furniture or in case they ever scratched me. He'd
think I was mad.
Vets need to stop offering this.


I stopped using my (otherwise caring) vet in Pasadena CA when I discovered
that the "laser surgery" he advertised was for declawing!
Cendrillon had been declawed before I adopted her (but I was hardly going
to refuse to adopt an abandoned cat because of that). So far as the
spaying or neutering at the same time as the claw surgery goes - I'd had
her a week when she came in heat!


I found this:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41599112...et-owners-say/

Well, I never knew it was also OK to cut dog's vocal cords to stop them
from barking.
I'm shocked.
If you choose to have a dog, it will bark and if you have a cat it has
claws. Either learn to live with that or don't have one.
The vets here would be struck off by their governing body if they performed
either surgery for the convenience of the owners.
It's disgusting that a nation such as yourselves allows it.












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Old October 27th 12, 09:45 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
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Default Must see movie trailer- The Paw Project anti-declawing documentary



Christina Websell wrote:
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
m...

Christina Websell wrote:
"Catlady" wrote in message
...
http://pawprojectmovie.com/
You are probably preaching to the converted on here.

It's illegal in my country unless for deep-seated nail bed infections
that don't respond to any other treatment. I've never seen a declawed
cat.

My suggestion is that if any of you use a vet that encourages
spaying/neutering and declawing at the same time, you ask why that vet
thinks it's acceptable and why they suggest it.
I'd be banned from my vet's surgery forever if I asked him to declaw a
cat to protect my furniture or in case they ever scratched me. He'd
think I was mad.
Vets need to stop offering this.

I stopped using my (otherwise caring) vet in Pasadena CA when I discovered
that the "laser surgery" he advertised was for declawing!
Cendrillon had been declawed before I adopted her (but I was hardly going
to refuse to adopt an abandoned cat because of that). So far as the
spaying or neutering at the same time as the claw surgery goes - I'd had
her a week when she came in heat!


I found this:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41599112...et-owners-say/

Well, I never knew it was also OK to cut dog's vocal cords to stop them
from barking.
I'm shocked.
If you choose to have a dog, it will bark and if you have a cat it has
claws. Either learn to live with that or don't have one.
The vets here would be struck off by their governing body if they performed
either surgery for the convenience of the owners.
It's disgusting that a nation such as yourselves allows it.


The man in the apartment below mine had a small dog whose vocal cords
had been severed. (I agree, it's a barbarous measure - he had also had
"dental surgery" to remove his "fangs".) They'd been living downstairs
for quite a while before I realized those hacking noises were not a
large cat with a hairball problem. The surgery didn't stop the dog from
TRYING to bark, just substituted one sound for another. Wouldn't it have
made better sense to simply train the dog not to bark at the slightest
provocation? (They call it "obedience training", but of course it
requires a little effort on the part of the dog's owner.)
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Old October 27th 12, 10:12 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Christina Websell
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Default Must see movie trailer- The Paw Project anti-declawing documentary


"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
m...


Christina Websell wrote:
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
m...

Christina Websell wrote:
"Catlady" wrote in message
...
http://pawprojectmovie.com/
You are probably preaching to the converted on here.

It's illegal in my country unless for deep-seated nail bed infections
that don't respond to any other treatment. I've never seen a declawed
cat.

My suggestion is that if any of you use a vet that encourages
spaying/neutering and declawing at the same time, you ask why that vet
thinks it's acceptable and why they suggest it.
I'd be banned from my vet's surgery forever if I asked him to declaw a
cat to protect my furniture or in case they ever scratched me. He'd
think I was mad.
Vets need to stop offering this.
I stopped using my (otherwise caring) vet in Pasadena CA when I
discovered that the "laser surgery" he advertised was for declawing!
Cendrillon had been declawed before I adopted her (but I was hardly
going to refuse to adopt an abandoned cat because of that). So far as
the spaying or neutering at the same time as the claw surgery goes - I'd
had her a week when she came in heat!


I found this:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41599112...et-owners-say/

Well, I never knew it was also OK to cut dog's vocal cords to stop them
from barking.
I'm shocked.
If you choose to have a dog, it will bark and if you have a cat it has
claws. Either learn to live with that or don't have one.
The vets here would be struck off by their governing body if they
performed either surgery for the convenience of the owners.
It's disgusting that a nation such as yourselves allows it.


The man in the apartment below mine had a small dog whose vocal cords had
been severed. (I agree, it's a barbarous measure - he had also had
"dental surgery" to remove his "fangs".) They'd been living downstairs
for quite a while before I realized those hacking noises were not a large
cat with a hairball problem. The surgery didn't stop the dog from
TRYING to bark, just substituted one sound for another. Wouldn't it have
made better sense to simply train the dog not to bark at the slightest
provocation? (They call it "obedience training", but of course it
requires a little effort on the part of the dog's owner.)


I don't understand why declawing cats and devocalizing dogs is allowed in a
so-called "civilised" country.
It's totally unacceptable, I blame your vets, they should refuse to do it.


















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Old October 27th 12, 10:19 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
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Default Must see movie trailer- The Paw Project anti-declawing documentary



Christina Websell wrote:
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
m...


The man in the apartment below mine had a small dog whose vocal cords had
been severed. (I agree, it's a barbarous measure - he had also had
"dental surgery" to remove his "fangs".) They'd been living downstairs
for quite a while before I realized those hacking noises were not a large
cat with a hairball problem. The surgery didn't stop the dog from
TRYING to bark, just substituted one sound for another. Wouldn't it have
made better sense to simply train the dog not to bark at the slightest
provocation? (They call it "obedience training", but of course it
requires a little effort on the part of the dog's owner.)


I don't understand why declawing cats and devocalizing dogs is allowed in a
so-called "civilised" country.
It's totally unacceptable, I blame your vets, they should refuse to do it.


You are assuming the USA is "civilized" - the longer I live the more I
doubt that assertion! (We are certainly the only allegedly "developed"
country on earth that doesn't consider health care a right for all its
citizens.)
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Old October 27th 12, 10:52 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Jack Campin
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Default Must see movie trailer- The Paw Project anti-declawing documentary

The man in the apartment below mine had a small dog whose vocal cords
had been severed. (I agree, it's a barbarous measure - he had also had
"dental surgery" to remove his "fangs".) They'd been living downstairs
for quite a while before I realized those hacking noises were not a
large cat with a hairball problem. The surgery didn't stop the dog from
TRYING to bark, just substituted one sound for another. Wouldn't it have
made better sense to simply train the dog not to bark at the slightest
provocation? (They call it "obedience training", but of course it
requires a little effort on the part of the dog's owner.)


There's been a striking change in the urban environment since I arrived
in Scotland in 1976. You don't hear dogs barking anywhere near as much.
I suspect the main reason is that their owners treat them more kindly than
they used to. Surgery like you're describing would get a vet struck off
and criminally prosecuted in the UK.

(You also don't hear birds chirping at dawn - but that's because they're
nearly extinct. Dog numbers haven't changed much).

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Old October 27th 12, 11:01 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
Christina Websell
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Default Must see movie trailer- The Paw Project anti-declawing documentary


"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
m...


Christina Websell wrote:
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
m...


The man in the apartment below mine had a small dog whose vocal cords
had been severed. (I agree, it's a barbarous measure - he had also had
"dental surgery" to remove his "fangs".) They'd been living downstairs
for quite a while before I realized those hacking noises were not a
large cat with a hairball problem. The surgery didn't stop the dog from
TRYING to bark, just substituted one sound for another. Wouldn't it have
made better sense to simply train the dog not to bark at the slightest
provocation? (They call it "obedience training", but of course it
requires a little effort on the part of the dog's owner.)


I don't understand why declawing cats and devocalizing dogs is allowed in
a so-called "civilised" country.
It's totally unacceptable, I blame your vets, they should refuse to do
it.


You are assuming the USA is "civilized" - the longer I live the more I
doubt that assertion! (We are certainly the only allegedly "developed"
country on earth that doesn't consider health care a right for all its
citizens



Yes. You've seen my opinion on this, too.




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Old October 28th 12, 12:33 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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Default Must see movie trailer- The Paw Project anti-declawing documentary

Christina Websell wrote:

I found this:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41599112...et-owners-say/


Well, I never knew it was also OK to cut dog's vocal cords to stop them
from barking.
I'm shocked.
If you choose to have a dog, it will bark and if you have a cat it has
claws. Either learn to live with that or don't have one.
The vets here would be struck off by their governing body if they performed
either surgery for the convenience of the owners.
It's disgusting that a nation such as yourselves allows it.


It's profitable. Don't you know that's the prime value in these parts?

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Joyce

Socialism never took root in America because the poor see
themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily
embarassed millionaires.
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