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Old June 28th 09, 11:52 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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"AZ Nomad" wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:45:59 +0100, Christina Websell
wrote:

wrote in message
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AZ wrote:

Christina Websell wrote:

I'm alway sad when some dies but I'm not worried about this one.
He wanted to be white, Why?

why is it important to you?

Maybe she's just curious. Something doesn't have to be "important" to
a person in order to ask a question about it.



No, I'm not being curious. I am stating a fact that Michael Jackson had
lots of operations to make him seem white and why?



Who cares? He's dead. Quit beating the dead horse.




Why don't you quit being rude instead? I thought Michael was just beautiful
during the 'Thriller' era. He should have quit while he was ahead.

Jill

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Old June 28th 09, 02:04 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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"Granby" wrote:

After the first allegation against him, any parents who allowed their
children to be involved with him in any way are more guilty for what may
have happened.


Well, it ultimately became quite obvious that *nothing* happened. And
I'm not much enamored of "guilt by allegation." Ever see the movie /The
Children's Hour/? Very ugly.

The first (and only) allegation was from a known con artist who had
previously tried to extort money from other celebrities, using similar
false allegations. It should have been utterly ignored by all --
including parents, and especially including a certain racist DA. (If
there had been a good judge on the case, the DA would have had his rear
end handed to him for bringing a case which was utterly without merit.)
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Old June 28th 09, 02:41 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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Wayne Mitchell wrote in
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"Granby" wrote:

After the first allegation against him, any parents who allowed their
children to be involved with him in any way are more guilty for what may
have happened.


Well, it ultimately became quite obvious that *nothing* happened. And
I'm not much enamored of "guilt by allegation." Ever see the movie /The
Children's Hour/? Very ugly.

The first (and only) allegation was from a known con artist who had
previously tried to extort money from other celebrities, using similar
false allegations. It should have been utterly ignored by all --
including parents, and especially including a certain racist DA. (If
there had been a good judge on the case, the DA would have had his rear
end handed to him for bringing a case which was utterly without merit.)




Sorry Wayne; the man admitted to getting in bed with young children. I
don't even care if nothing happened after that because that is way over my
line. The level of anger in your post borders on bizarre.
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Old June 28th 09, 08:56 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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Christina Websell wrote:

His nose got to look, well, not quite right but he refused to admit plastic
surgery and he was once black. He tried to be white, and that made me sad,
like it was better to be white.


I think, in the part of the entertainment world where the "Jackson Five"
performed when he was young, that may have been a perceived "fact".
Certainly the discrimination many black entertainers encountered, in
terms of finding overnight accommodation "on the road", was well known.
(Even Las Vegas "headliners" were often not allowed to stay in the
hotel-casinos where they were performing.) I learned from the
autobiography of more than one female entertainer that, before the Civil
Rights Movement, often the only place they could find to sleep in some
cities was a local brothel (hopefully with a door they could lock from
the inside).
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Old June 28th 09, 09:04 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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Granby wrote:
Whatever he did, or didn't do is Gods decision now. I am sorry he was
surrounded by people who didn't seem to help but, as is many cases of rich,
famous people, were trying to figure out to get their piece of the pie.

After the first allegation against him, any parents who allowed their
children to be involved with him in any way are more guilty for what may
have happened.


I am enough of a cynic to think those parents were perfectly willing to
prostitute their children in hopes of bringing a lucrative lawsuit!
(Quite aside from the nasty rumors, what responsible parents would allow
their children to stay overnight, unchaperoned, in such a clearly
"kinky" environment?)
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Old June 28th 09, 09:25 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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Wayne Mitchell wrote:
"Granby" wrote:

After the first allegation against him, any parents who allowed their
children to be involved with him in any way are more guilty for what may
have happened.


Well, it ultimately became quite obvious that *nothing* happened.


"Obvious" to WHOM? Lack of objective proof in a court of law is just
that. Our laws provide that an accused person is "presumed innocent"
until PROVEN guilty. (Being acquitted for lack of proof does NOT mean
"nothing happened" - only that nothing could be proved.)

And
I'm not much enamored of "guilt by allegation." Ever see the movie /The
Children's Hour/? Very ugly.

The first (and only) allegation was from a known con artist who had
previously tried to extort money from other celebrities, using similar
false allegations. It should have been utterly ignored by all --
including parents, and especially including a certain racist DA. (If
there had been a good judge on the case, the DA would have had his rear
end handed to him for bringing a case which was utterly without merit.)


Whatever the actual truth of the matter, and even if "Neverland" was
simply an attempt by a man of mature years to fulfill his infantile
fantasies (and share them with children), would YOU have allowed your
children to be unsupervised guests there? Even if the actual situations
had no sexual overtones, the venue itself was "kinky" enough to raise
doubts in any responsible parent. IMO, better to avoid the POSSIBILITY
of molestation, however "pure" everyone's actual motives may have been.
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Old June 28th 09, 11:09 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:

And
I'm not much enamored of "guilt by allegation." Ever see the movie /The
Children's Hour/? Very ugly.


Whatever the actual truth of the matter, and even if "Neverland" was
simply an attempt by a man of mature years to fulfill his infantile
fantasies (and share them with children), would YOU have allowed your
children to be unsupervised guests there? Even if the actual situations
had no sexual overtones, the venue itself was "kinky" enough to raise
doubts in any responsible parent. IMO, better to avoid the POSSIBILITY
of molestation, however "pure" everyone's actual motives may have been.


I agree. I wouldn't allow my kids to hang out in such a place. That's
common sense. I'm still glad our laws work the way they do, though.

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Old June 29th 09, 12:30 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:


wrote:
Marina wrote:

I have vitiligo. I have a patch of white on my leg, just above the

knee. I mean I'm white, but that patch is *really* white. It's more
obvious when I'm tanned. It doesn't bother me, but if I had that
patch on my face, I might want to do something about it.

I'm sure that's true. But imagine if the rest of your skin was dark
brown and you had these white patches. It's a harmless condition,
medically speaking but it does cause people to feel badly about how
they look. I think it's a lot harder on dark-skinned people, not to
minimize how it might feel even to a pale-skinned person, if they had
the white patches in highly visible places.


I'm sure they make "cover-stick" in darker skin tones, too - it's not
only Caucasians who want to hide facial blemishes!


I'm changing my mind on this. I'd assumed that of course the vitiligo
story was just a cover-up for Jackson's obsession with becoming white,
but I did a bit of googling after reading earlier posts on this thread.
Not only is the problem far more obvious on dark skin than on light, it
can be so widespread that covering with makeup can be very difficult,
and removal of the remaining pigment can have a better result than
attempting to even out what remains - especially if the disease is an
aggressive form. There's a black reporter who has gone public with his
experiences - it affects his hand more than his face, but the lack of
colour is very eyecatching, and the emotional impact can be quite
devastating since people assume the disease is catching, like leprosy.

Cheryl
 




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