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Cheryl wrote in
: "Gee" dumped this in news:aXAsc.4$3s5.3@newsfe4-win on 25 May 2004: Well, we have urban foxes where we live in London, as well as lots of outgoing pet and stray cats, and our solution is simple: we feed foxes. Perhaps if those idiots would help them out rather then looking for some murdering solutions, life would be better for everyone. Feeding wildlife isn't the answer, either. It only makes them fear humans less, and adds to the problems when we intermingle. Our pets intermingle with us and they become food for the wildlife a step up the chain. The only answer I see isn't going to happen. Quit tearing down their habitats to make even more environment for us. That is why wildlife comes closer to us. London is about the same size as New York (Greater London has more population than the NY boroughs), and it is surrounded by a buffer zone called the 'green belt', where the only way to get permission to build is to first demolish an existing building. If foxes are displaced from outside the green belt, that is a long way outside London. My parents had a family of foxes living at the bottom of their garden, less than 10 miles outside London. They lived under a pile of logs. You could watch the cubs play from the house, but you couldn't get close. |
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This is one of the reasons why people need to keep their cats indoors. I
don't know what kind of incidents it will take before people get the message. Here in Arizona, we had an incident where a cat and a dog were killed and skinned The animals were found in their human's yard. The dog was skinned in their owner's yard while the cat was killed in the same manner. This just happened and both incidents were two days apart from each other and in the same neighborhood. I hope they catch the person responsible and do the same thing to him! -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Alterego" wrote in message om... 'This fox had ripped the head off our cat' Janet Richardson has seen how bloodthirsty the urban fox can be. And she wants it hunted down By Newsdesk PETS being torn limb from limb and fears a baby could be savaged next have led residents to call for hunting on the borough's streets. Janet Richardson says urban foxes are running out of control and must be destroyed, whatever it takes. Hungry vixens in The Mead, Beckenham, have been known to leap through open windows to steal kitchen scraps and, when confronted, snarl and snap angrily at anyone who dares tackle them. Mrs Richardson's patience with the sly intruders finally snapped when one of them quite literally ripped apart the family pet, a ginger tom called Anu. She said: "My nine-year-old son Samuel came home to the most distressing and grisly scene. A fox had torn the head off our cat. There was blood everywhere. It was like a massacre. "For a youngster to have to face this is appalling. Within one week three cats have been butchered by foxes, their heads torn off and various body parts left strewn about the place. These foxes have learnt to hunt in packs to corner cats, they're acting like wolves in the wild." Mrs Richardson, 43, says they are breeding out of control and all efforts to control them have failed but claims Bromley Council has washed its hands of the problem and refuses to get involved. The research director at the School of Integrated Health, University of Westminster, has written to Jacqui Lait MP pleading with her to bring the problem to the attention of Parliament. In her letter she said: "My nine-year-old son found our pet headless and torn apart by the foxes. I am sure you can imagine how distressing this was. "As the foxes increase, and competition for food becomes harder, it can only be a matter of time before this happens to a small child. "The council claims it is unable to treat foxes as pests and, therefore, does not provide a removal service. Is this due to government policy or is it simply that they have no statutory obligation to treat foxes as pests, so choose not to deal with the problem?" Mrs Richardson says 10 years ago you would only see an odd fox in Beckenham but last year a local pair had seven cubs and this year they have produced another six. "There doesn't seem to be any answer to keeping their numbers down and if hunting them with hounds was practical, I would certainly consider it." A spokesman for Bromley Council's environmental health department confirmed it does not consider foxes to be pests and its officers do not deal with them. The only advice it could offer was to put down rags soaked in Jeyes Fluid. If residents still have problems the council recommends they contact A1 Pest Control, in Dartford. Peter Roberts from A1 insists "foxes are on the vermin list and need to be controlled". His suggested methods include, trapping, shooting, poisoning, gassing or hunting with lurcher dogs. Anne Holmes from the League Against Cruel Sports said: "This is a new one on me but it fits very nicely with the pro-hunting lobby's efforts to vilify the fox in towns and the country. "There is no reason to believe incidents are happening often enough, or are severe enough, to suggest foxes are a real threat. "We could well be seeing the latest publicity stunt from the pro-hunting lobby who just want to find ways to justify their cruel and barbaric sport. I doubt we'll see hounds racing across Blackheath." Trevor Williams from the Fox Project, a charity dedicated to the protection, rescue, and advocacy for the wild fox in south east England, said: "It will cause traffic chaos. It's bad enough in the country but in town it will be crazy. "They trespass enough in the countryside, so in an urban area it will be worse. They will be breaking the law every 100 yards. "I reckon the hounds will end up killing more cats than they will foxes." |
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This is one of the reasons why people need to keep their cats indoors. I
don't know what kind of incidents it will take before people get the message. Here in Arizona, we had an incident where a cat and a dog were killed and skinned The animals were found in their human's yard. The dog was skinned in their owner's yard while the cat was killed in the same manner. This just happened and both incidents were two days apart from each other and in the same neighborhood. I hope they catch the person responsible and do the same thing to him! -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Alterego" wrote in message om... 'This fox had ripped the head off our cat' Janet Richardson has seen how bloodthirsty the urban fox can be. And she wants it hunted down By Newsdesk PETS being torn limb from limb and fears a baby could be savaged next have led residents to call for hunting on the borough's streets. Janet Richardson says urban foxes are running out of control and must be destroyed, whatever it takes. Hungry vixens in The Mead, Beckenham, have been known to leap through open windows to steal kitchen scraps and, when confronted, snarl and snap angrily at anyone who dares tackle them. Mrs Richardson's patience with the sly intruders finally snapped when one of them quite literally ripped apart the family pet, a ginger tom called Anu. She said: "My nine-year-old son Samuel came home to the most distressing and grisly scene. A fox had torn the head off our cat. There was blood everywhere. It was like a massacre. "For a youngster to have to face this is appalling. Within one week three cats have been butchered by foxes, their heads torn off and various body parts left strewn about the place. These foxes have learnt to hunt in packs to corner cats, they're acting like wolves in the wild." Mrs Richardson, 43, says they are breeding out of control and all efforts to control them have failed but claims Bromley Council has washed its hands of the problem and refuses to get involved. The research director at the School of Integrated Health, University of Westminster, has written to Jacqui Lait MP pleading with her to bring the problem to the attention of Parliament. In her letter she said: "My nine-year-old son found our pet headless and torn apart by the foxes. I am sure you can imagine how distressing this was. "As the foxes increase, and competition for food becomes harder, it can only be a matter of time before this happens to a small child. "The council claims it is unable to treat foxes as pests and, therefore, does not provide a removal service. Is this due to government policy or is it simply that they have no statutory obligation to treat foxes as pests, so choose not to deal with the problem?" Mrs Richardson says 10 years ago you would only see an odd fox in Beckenham but last year a local pair had seven cubs and this year they have produced another six. "There doesn't seem to be any answer to keeping their numbers down and if hunting them with hounds was practical, I would certainly consider it." A spokesman for Bromley Council's environmental health department confirmed it does not consider foxes to be pests and its officers do not deal with them. The only advice it could offer was to put down rags soaked in Jeyes Fluid. If residents still have problems the council recommends they contact A1 Pest Control, in Dartford. Peter Roberts from A1 insists "foxes are on the vermin list and need to be controlled". His suggested methods include, trapping, shooting, poisoning, gassing or hunting with lurcher dogs. Anne Holmes from the League Against Cruel Sports said: "This is a new one on me but it fits very nicely with the pro-hunting lobby's efforts to vilify the fox in towns and the country. "There is no reason to believe incidents are happening often enough, or are severe enough, to suggest foxes are a real threat. "We could well be seeing the latest publicity stunt from the pro-hunting lobby who just want to find ways to justify their cruel and barbaric sport. I doubt we'll see hounds racing across Blackheath." Trevor Williams from the Fox Project, a charity dedicated to the protection, rescue, and advocacy for the wild fox in south east England, said: "It will cause traffic chaos. It's bad enough in the country but in town it will be crazy. "They trespass enough in the countryside, so in an urban area it will be worse. They will be breaking the law every 100 yards. "I reckon the hounds will end up killing more cats than they will foxes." |
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"Cat Protector" wrote in message news:TnUsc.13162$Sx2.1219@okepread01... This is one of the reasons why people need to keep their cats indoors. I don't know what kind of incidents it will take before people get the message. Here in Arizona, we had an incident where a cat and a dog were killed and skinned The animals were found in their human's yard. The dog was skinned in their owner's yard while the cat was killed in the same manner. This just happened and both incidents were two days apart from each other and in the same neighborhood. I hope they catch the person responsible and do the same thing to him! I sure second that! Gee |
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"Cat Protector" wrote in message news:TnUsc.13162$Sx2.1219@okepread01... This is one of the reasons why people need to keep their cats indoors. I don't know what kind of incidents it will take before people get the message. Here in Arizona, we had an incident where a cat and a dog were killed and skinned The animals were found in their human's yard. The dog was skinned in their owner's yard while the cat was killed in the same manner. This just happened and both incidents were two days apart from each other and in the same neighborhood. I hope they catch the person responsible and do the same thing to him! I sure second that! Gee |
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Well the news is now saying that the cat was found in a local park not to
far from where their human lives. The cat was partially skinned and found underneath a pile of beer bottles and other trash. It is pretty sad when this happens but maybe people will finally wake up and keep their cats indoors or in the very least get them to use a leash and harness so their cats can go outdoors and at the same time the humans know they are safe. I feel bad for the cat's human but maybe people will wake up and heed the advice many shelters have been crying out to the public by asking them to keep them inside where they will be safe. When I saw this story today I hugged my two cats. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Gee" wrote in message ... I sure second that! Gee |
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Well the news is now saying that the cat was found in a local park not to
far from where their human lives. The cat was partially skinned and found underneath a pile of beer bottles and other trash. It is pretty sad when this happens but maybe people will finally wake up and keep their cats indoors or in the very least get them to use a leash and harness so their cats can go outdoors and at the same time the humans know they are safe. I feel bad for the cat's human but maybe people will wake up and heed the advice many shelters have been crying out to the public by asking them to keep them inside where they will be safe. When I saw this story today I hugged my two cats. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Gee" wrote in message ... I sure second that! Gee |
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When I saw this story today I
hugged my two cats. That's great. What else are you going to do? Again, CP, I so do not understand your obsessive need to describe in graphic detail every abuse case you hear about. Yet you never seem to include any information about what you're actually going to do about it. Hugging your cats and lip service on a newsgroup isn't enough. Sherry |
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When I saw this story today I
hugged my two cats. That's great. What else are you going to do? Again, CP, I so do not understand your obsessive need to describe in graphic detail every abuse case you hear about. Yet you never seem to include any information about what you're actually going to do about it. Hugging your cats and lip service on a newsgroup isn't enough. Sherry |
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