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Kreisleriana wrote:
Sorry I don't buy that. That's like saying Jodie Foster caused Ronald Reagan to get shot. Well, after the flurry of responses we've just had on this thread, there isn't really much more to add, I think, except that I don't really think Jodie Foster was a roving gang of girls, nor was John Hinkley a roving gang of anything, so it's hard to see the application to this particular argument. And I was not referring to girls as instigators by the prettiness of their faces. I was talking about real hands-on participation. I think we are talking about irresponsible adolescent behaviour here, and we just finished discussing how adolescents are *not* small adults that can be assumed to have the same reasoning processes as adults when they make the asinine decisions that they do. My direct experience of this is myriad, on account of the fact that amongst many other places, one of my previous jobs included working as the doc at the Juvenile Detention Centers for the County of Los Angeles. Gang central, for any who don't know. The girls are very much part and parcel of gang violence, and they were long, long before this recent trend of girl gangs starting up. They were there....on hand and at the scene....cheering, taunting and raging and most certainly inflaming the young men who, along with their own bloodlust, were just not mature enough to resist the mob instinct, which is hard enough even for adults to resist in large groups.....and there are certainly plenty of documented evidences to show just how powerful mob mentality can be. What people seem to assume, as happened here, is that it is only boys, and the girls just are not a part of that but it is not true. It's just that they are the last (until recently) to be suspected as a part of it, and they were the first to get away from every scene, and so the stereotype persisted for years. I have it firsthand from female incarcerants, myself, going back at least twenty years. --tension Sent via http://Pets-99.com , http://AnimalForum.ws & http://AnimalBlog.org |
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Kreisleriana wrote:
Sorry I don't buy that. That's like saying Jodie Foster caused Ronald Reagan to get shot. Well, after the flurry of responses we've just had on this thread, there isn't really much more to add, I think, except that I don't really think Jodie Foster was a roving gang of girls, nor was John Hinkley a roving gang of anything, so it's hard to see the application to this particular argument. And I was not referring to girls as instigators by the prettiness of their faces. I was talking about real hands-on participation. I think we are talking about irresponsible adolescent behaviour here, and we just finished discussing how adolescents are *not* small adults that can be assumed to have the same reasoning processes as adults when they make the asinine decisions that they do. My direct experience of this is myriad, on account of the fact that amongst many other places, one of my previous jobs included working as the doc at the Juvenile Detention Centers for the County of Los Angeles. Gang central, for any who don't know. The girls are very much part and parcel of gang violence, and they were long, long before this recent trend of girl gangs starting up. They were there....on hand and at the scene....cheering, taunting and raging and most certainly inflaming the young men who, along with their own bloodlust, were just not mature enough to resist the mob instinct, which is hard enough even for adults to resist in large groups.....and there are certainly plenty of documented evidences to show just how powerful mob mentality can be. What people seem to assume, as happened here, is that it is only boys, and the girls just are not a part of that but it is not true. It's just that they are the last (until recently) to be suspected as a part of it, and they were the first to get away from every scene, and so the stereotype persisted for years. I have it firsthand from female incarcerants, myself, going back at least twenty years. --tension Sent via http://Pets-99.com , http://AnimalForum.ws & http://AnimalBlog.org |
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Kreisleriana wrote:
Sorry I don't buy that. That's like saying Jodie Foster caused Ronald Reagan to get shot. Well, after the flurry of responses we've just had on this thread, there isn't really much more to add, I think, except that I don't really think Jodie Foster was a roving gang of girls, nor was John Hinkley a roving gang of anything, so it's hard to see the application to this particular argument. And I was not referring to girls as instigators by the prettiness of their faces. I was talking about real hands-on participation. I think we are talking about irresponsible adolescent behaviour here, and we just finished discussing how adolescents are *not* small adults that can be assumed to have the same reasoning processes as adults when they make the asinine decisions that they do. My direct experience of this is myriad, on account of the fact that amongst many other places, one of my previous jobs included working as the doc at the Juvenile Detention Centers for the County of Los Angeles. Gang central, for any who don't know. The girls are very much part and parcel of gang violence, and they were long, long before this recent trend of girl gangs starting up. They were there....on hand and at the scene....cheering, taunting and raging and most certainly inflaming the young men who, along with their own bloodlust, were just not mature enough to resist the mob instinct, which is hard enough even for adults to resist in large groups.....and there are certainly plenty of documented evidences to show just how powerful mob mentality can be. What people seem to assume, as happened here, is that it is only boys, and the girls just are not a part of that but it is not true. It's just that they are the last (until recently) to be suspected as a part of it, and they were the first to get away from every scene, and so the stereotype persisted for years. I have it firsthand from female incarcerants, myself, going back at least twenty years. --tension Sent via http://Pets-99.com , http://AnimalForum.ws & http://AnimalBlog.org |
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Black cat blackout now in effect
Kreisleriana wrote:
Sorry I don't buy that. That's like saying Jodie Foster caused Ronald Reagan to get shot. Well, after the flurry of responses we've just had on this thread, there isn't really much more to add, I think, except that I don't really think Jodie Foster was a roving gang of girls, nor was John Hinkley a roving gang of anything, so it's hard to see the application to this particular argument. And I was not referring to girls as instigators by the prettiness of their faces. I was talking about real hands-on participation. I think we are talking about irresponsible adolescent behaviour here, and we just finished discussing how adolescents are *not* small adults that can be assumed to have the same reasoning processes as adults when they make the asinine decisions that they do. My direct experience of this is myriad, on account of the fact that amongst many other places, one of my previous jobs included working as the doc at the Juvenile Detention Centers for the County of Los Angeles. Gang central, for any who don't know. The girls are very much part and parcel of gang violence, and they were long, long before this recent trend of girl gangs starting up. They were there....on hand and at the scene....cheering, taunting and raging and most certainly inflaming the young men who, along with their own bloodlust, were just not mature enough to resist the mob instinct, which is hard enough even for adults to resist in large groups.....and there are certainly plenty of documented evidences to show just how powerful mob mentality can be. What people seem to assume, as happened here, is that it is only boys, and the girls just are not a part of that but it is not true. It's just that they are the last (until recently) to be suspected as a part of it, and they were the first to get away from every scene, and so the stereotype persisted for years. I have it firsthand from female incarcerants, myself, going back at least twenty years. --tension Sent via http://Pets-99.com , http://AnimalForum.ws & http://AnimalBlog.org |
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Black cat blackout now in effect
Kreisleriana wrote:
Sorry I don't buy that. That's like saying Jodie Foster caused Ronald Reagan to get shot. Well, after the flurry of responses we've just had on this thread, there isn't really much more to add, I think, except that I don't really think Jodie Foster was a roving gang of girls, nor was John Hinkley a roving gang of anything, so it's hard to see the application to this particular argument. And I was not referring to girls as instigators by the prettiness of their faces. I was talking about real hands-on participation. I think we are talking about irresponsible adolescent behaviour here, and we just finished discussing how adolescents are *not* small adults that can be assumed to have the same reasoning processes as adults when they make the asinine decisions that they do. My direct experience of this is myriad, on account of the fact that amongst many other places, one of my previous jobs included working as the doc at the Juvenile Detention Centers for the County of Los Angeles. Gang central, for any who don't know. The girls are very much part and parcel of gang violence, and they were long, long before this recent trend of girl gangs starting up. They were there....on hand and at the scene....cheering, taunting and raging and most certainly inflaming the young men who, along with their own bloodlust, were just not mature enough to resist the mob instinct, which is hard enough even for adults to resist in large groups.....and there are certainly plenty of documented evidences to show just how powerful mob mentality can be. What people seem to assume, as happened here, is that it is only boys, and the girls just are not a part of that but it is not true. It's just that they are the last (until recently) to be suspected as a part of it, and they were the first to get away from every scene, and so the stereotype persisted for years. I have it firsthand from female incarcerants, myself, going back at least twenty years. --tension Sent via http://Pets-99.com , http://AnimalForum.ws & http://AnimalBlog.org |
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Kreisleriana wrote:
Sorry I don't buy that. That's like saying Jodie Foster caused Ronald Reagan to get shot. Well, after the flurry of responses we've just had on this thread, there isn't really much more to add, I think, except that I don't really think Jodie Foster was a roving gang of girls, nor was John Hinkley a roving gang of anything, so it's hard to see the application to this particular argument. And I was not referring to girls as instigators by the prettiness of their faces. I was talking about real hands-on participation. I think we are talking about irresponsible adolescent behaviour here, and we just finished discussing how adolescents are *not* small adults that can be assumed to have the same reasoning processes as adults when they make the asinine decisions that they do. My direct experience of this is myriad, on account of the fact that amongst many other places, one of my previous jobs included working as the doc at the Juvenile Detention Centers for the County of Los Angeles. Gang central, for any who don't know. The girls are very much part and parcel of gang violence, and they were long, long before this recent trend of girl gangs starting up. They were there....on hand and at the scene....cheering, taunting and raging and most certainly inflaming the young men who, along with their own bloodlust, were just not mature enough to resist the mob instinct, which is hard enough even for adults to resist in large groups.....and there are certainly plenty of documented evidences to show just how powerful mob mentality can be. What people seem to assume, as happened here, is that it is only boys, and the girls just are not a part of that but it is not true. It's just that they are the last (until recently) to be suspected as a part of it, and they were the first to get away from every scene, and so the stereotype persisted for years. I have it firsthand from female incarcerants, myself, going back at least twenty years. --tension Sent via http://Pets-99.com , http://AnimalForum.ws & http://AnimalBlog.org |
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Black cat blackout now in effect
Kreisleriana wrote:
Sorry I don't buy that. That's like saying Jodie Foster caused Ronald Reagan to get shot. Well, after the flurry of responses we've just had on this thread, there isn't really much more to add, I think, except that I don't really think Jodie Foster was a roving gang of girls, nor was John Hinkley a roving gang of anything, so it's hard to see the application to this particular argument. And I was not referring to girls as instigators by the prettiness of their faces. I was talking about real hands-on participation. I think we are talking about irresponsible adolescent behaviour here, and we just finished discussing how adolescents are *not* small adults that can be assumed to have the same reasoning processes as adults when they make the asinine decisions that they do. My direct experience of this is myriad, on account of the fact that amongst many other places, one of my previous jobs included working as the doc at the Juvenile Detention Centers for the County of Los Angeles. Gang central, for any who don't know. The girls are very much part and parcel of gang violence, and they were long, long before this recent trend of girl gangs starting up. They were there....on hand and at the scene....cheering, taunting and raging and most certainly inflaming the young men who, along with their own bloodlust, were just not mature enough to resist the mob instinct, which is hard enough even for adults to resist in large groups.....and there are certainly plenty of documented evidences to show just how powerful mob mentality can be. What people seem to assume, as happened here, is that it is only boys, and the girls just are not a part of that but it is not true. It's just that they are the last (until recently) to be suspected as a part of it, and they were the first to get away from every scene, and so the stereotype persisted for years. I have it firsthand from female incarcerants, myself, going back at least twenty years. --tension Sent via http://Pets-99.com , http://AnimalForum.ws & http://AnimalBlog.org |
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Black cat blackout now in effect
Kreisleriana wrote:
Sorry I don't buy that. That's like saying Jodie Foster caused Ronald Reagan to get shot. Well, after the flurry of responses we've just had on this thread, there isn't really much more to add, I think, except that I don't really think Jodie Foster was a roving gang of girls, nor was John Hinkley a roving gang of anything, so it's hard to see the application to this particular argument. And I was not referring to girls as instigators by the prettiness of their faces. I was talking about real hands-on participation. I think we are talking about irresponsible adolescent behaviour here, and we just finished discussing how adolescents are *not* small adults that can be assumed to have the same reasoning processes as adults when they make the asinine decisions that they do. My direct experience of this is myriad, on account of the fact that amongst many other places, one of my previous jobs included working as the doc at the Juvenile Detention Centers for the County of Los Angeles. Gang central, for any who don't know. The girls are very much part and parcel of gang violence, and they were long, long before this recent trend of girl gangs starting up. They were there....on hand and at the scene....cheering, taunting and raging and most certainly inflaming the young men who, along with their own bloodlust, were just not mature enough to resist the mob instinct, which is hard enough even for adults to resist in large groups.....and there are certainly plenty of documented evidences to show just how powerful mob mentality can be. What people seem to assume, as happened here, is that it is only boys, and the girls just are not a part of that but it is not true. It's just that they are the last (until recently) to be suspected as a part of it, and they were the first to get away from every scene, and so the stereotype persisted for years. I have it firsthand from female incarcerants, myself, going back at least twenty years. --tension Sent via http://Pets-99.com , http://AnimalForum.ws & http://AnimalBlog.org |
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Black cat blackout now in effect
Kreisleriana wrote:
Sorry I don't buy that. That's like saying Jodie Foster caused Ronald Reagan to get shot. Well, after the flurry of responses we've just had on this thread, there isn't really much more to add, I think, except that I don't really think Jodie Foster was a roving gang of girls, nor was John Hinkley a roving gang of anything, so it's hard to see the application to this particular argument. And I was not referring to girls as instigators by the prettiness of their faces. I was talking about real hands-on participation. I think we are talking about irresponsible adolescent behaviour here, and we just finished discussing how adolescents are *not* small adults that can be assumed to have the same reasoning processes as adults when they make the asinine decisions that they do. My direct experience of this is myriad, on account of the fact that amongst many other places, one of my previous jobs included working as the doc at the Juvenile Detention Centers for the County of Los Angeles. Gang central, for any who don't know. The girls are very much part and parcel of gang violence, and they were long, long before this recent trend of girl gangs starting up. They were there....on hand and at the scene....cheering, taunting and raging and most certainly inflaming the young men who, along with their own bloodlust, were just not mature enough to resist the mob instinct, which is hard enough even for adults to resist in large groups.....and there are certainly plenty of documented evidences to show just how powerful mob mentality can be. What people seem to assume, as happened here, is that it is only boys, and the girls just are not a part of that but it is not true. It's just that they are the last (until recently) to be suspected as a part of it, and they were the first to get away from every scene, and so the stereotype persisted for years. I have it firsthand from female incarcerants, myself, going back at least twenty years. --tension Sent via http://Pets-99.com , http://AnimalForum.ws & http://AnimalBlog.org |
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Black cat blackout now in effect
Kreisleriana wrote:
Sorry I don't buy that. That's like saying Jodie Foster caused Ronald Reagan to get shot. Well, after the flurry of responses we've just had on this thread, there isn't really much more to add, I think, except that I don't really think Jodie Foster was a roving gang of girls, nor was John Hinkley a roving gang of anything, so it's hard to see the application to this particular argument. And I was not referring to girls as instigators by the prettiness of their faces. I was talking about real hands-on participation. I think we are talking about irresponsible adolescent behaviour here, and we just finished discussing how adolescents are *not* small adults that can be assumed to have the same reasoning processes as adults when they make the asinine decisions that they do. My direct experience of this is myriad, on account of the fact that amongst many other places, one of my previous jobs included working as the doc at the Juvenile Detention Centers for the County of Los Angeles. Gang central, for any who don't know. The girls are very much part and parcel of gang violence, and they were long, long before this recent trend of girl gangs starting up. They were there....on hand and at the scene....cheering, taunting and raging and most certainly inflaming the young men who, along with their own bloodlust, were just not mature enough to resist the mob instinct, which is hard enough even for adults to resist in large groups.....and there are certainly plenty of documented evidences to show just how powerful mob mentality can be. What people seem to assume, as happened here, is that it is only boys, and the girls just are not a part of that but it is not true. It's just that they are the last (until recently) to be suspected as a part of it, and they were the first to get away from every scene, and so the stereotype persisted for years. I have it firsthand from female incarcerants, myself, going back at least twenty years. --tension Sent via http://Pets-99.com , http://AnimalForum.ws & http://AnimalBlog.org |
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