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OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places
"Lesley" wrote in message ups.com... For our friends in all the other countries -- what is the attitude toward smoking there? Do many people still smoke? Is it banned in restaurants, public buildings, hotels and such? Thanks for the info.--I was just curious. Hi Here in the UK it is currently legal to smoke pretty much anywhere but a ban on smoking in pubs, clubs and restaurants etc etc will come into effect in 2007 unless there is a legal challenge mounted by someone (one hotel chain in Scotland is doing so- Scotland got its ban a few weeks ago). People will still be allowed to smoke outside for the moment. A lot of pubs over the last few years have had designated no smoking areas and one chain (Witherspoons I think) have already banned smoking inside their pubs although you can smoke in the beer gardens I gather (I don't much care for their pubs so I am unlikely to find out) Many a restaurant is already no-smoking, as are cinemas, shopping centres, libraries, shops and all sorts of places. For one, I'll be seriously glad when the ban on smoking in pubs comes into place as I haven't been in a pub for a long time as cigarette smoke makes me *ill* Cheers, helen s |
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OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message ... I don't think you can blame it on the "tobbacco lobby" - it has a great deal more to do with how individual people regard smoking. (And there is no such thing as a tobbacco lobby in Europe, where smoking in public is still perfectly legal, almost everywhere.) Don't kid yourself on there being no 'tobacco lobby' in Europe. There is a very strong one - it's just that as time passes, the anti-smoking lobby gets louder Cheers, helen s |
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OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places
"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message ... On 2006-03-20, penned: Another aspect that I find peculiar are the employers who forbid employees to smoke, period. Even away from work. I mean, what's next? Forbidding employees to eat Krispy Kremes? That's not healthy either, no? I'm not familiar with any such companies, but I do know that most people who smoke stink. Literally. Yes, it gets in their clothes and on their breath, but a prolonged smoker's body actually stinks of it. Yechh. That could be a presentation issue for some jobs. I've yet to meet someone who stank of Krispy Kreme. Or indeed, caught lung cancer from passive eating or passive obesity, whereas passive smoking... Cheers, helen s |
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OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places
On 2006-03-21, wafflycat wrote:
Many a restaurant is already no-smoking, as are cinemas, shopping centres, libraries, shops and all sorts of places. For one, I'll be seriously glad Motion picture theaters have been non-smoking over here for many years. The reason is fire prevention rather than second-hand smoke. -- The night is just the shadow of the Earth. |
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OT Calif. City Bans Smoking in Public Places
"wafflycat" wrote in message
... "Lesley" wrote in message ups.com... For our friends in all the other countries -- what is the attitude toward smoking there? Do many people still smoke? Is it banned in restaurants, public buildings, hotels and such? Thanks for the info.--I was just curious. Hi Here in the UK it is currently legal to smoke pretty much anywhere but a ban on smoking in pubs, clubs and restaurants etc etc will come into effect in 2007 unless there is a legal challenge mounted by someone (one hotel chain in Scotland is doing so- Scotland got its ban a few weeks ago). People will still be allowed to smoke outside for the moment. A lot of pubs over the last few years have had designated no smoking areas and one chain (Witherspoons I think) have already banned smoking inside their pubs although you can smoke in the beer gardens I gather (I don't much care for their pubs so I am unlikely to find out) Many a restaurant is already no-smoking, as are cinemas, shopping centres, libraries, shops and all sorts of places. For one, I'll be seriously glad when the ban on smoking in pubs comes into place as I haven't been in a pub for a long time as cigarette smoke makes me *ill* Cheers, helen s I know how you feel. There's a club here in Houston that I *LOVE* - great atmosphere, they play great dance music (from the 50s to now), there's pool tables and dart boards, and a really laid-back clientele (a bit older people so there is never any bar fights or nastiness). My son even held his birthday party there two years ago. Unfortunately I can't stay there longer than an hour or two - by that time my lungs and throat are burning miserably and will continue to do so for days afterwards. And I'm an ex-smoker - think how much worse it must be for someone who has never smoked. Here in Houston they've banned smoking in all businesses *EXCEPT* bars. -- Hugs, CatNipped See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ |
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Matthew AKA NMR ( NO MORE RETAIL ) wrote:
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message ... CatNipped wrote: "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message ... Fat Freddy wrote: "Those who smoke out of doors are hurting only themselves, and so far, that's still their right." Then why do not heroin, cocaine, or meth addicts have that same right? Perhaps because their "drug of choice" impairs judgement? Aside from the issue of "second-hand" smoke, tobbacco doesn't cause the user to put the lives of others at risk! (On the other hand, "driving under the influence.....") The drugs could be made legal but driving under their influence kept illegal - like alcohol. Also, to stretch a point, drivers who are distracted by fishing out and lighting up a cigarette could (and do) cause accidents. Not nearly so many as those do drivers distracted by their cell-phone conversations! or eating Mcdonald's trying to put on their makeup or turned around and yelling at their kids All at the same time! I bet it's happened. -- Adrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk |
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wrote: CatNipped wrote: Also, to stretch a point, drivers who are distracted by fishing out and lighting up a cigarette could (and do) cause accidents. Ditto for CD players - I had an accident about 4 years ago because I was futzing around with a CD and went off the road and hit a phone pole! (I wasn't hurt, but my car was totalled.) Then there are coffee drinkers, people talking on cell phones, and so on. (I'm guilty of talking on a cell phone while driving, I have to confess.) Joyce Oh, yeah. CD players, cell phone yakking, and mothers who try to discipline small children in the back seat while driving down the road! But the one that stands out, that I'll never forget -- I actually saw a woman reading a paperback book while she was driving down the street. That's just stupid...it made me wonder what exactly would be on the ticket that she'd get if a cop saw her. "Driving while stupid"? Sherry There was a case reported here in the UK recently, a woman was caught putting on her makeup, with a mirror in one hand and her makeup in the other, neither hand was touching the steering wheel, this was at 30mph. -- Adrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk |
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote: And FYI, LSD didn't even exist until well after WW2. (It came along just about the same time as the Beattles, IIRC - remember "Lucy in the Sky with Dianonds"?) I got curious about this, so I Googled it, and discovered that LSD was actually first formulated in a lab in 1938. However, the scientist who did this (Albert Hofmann) didn't do anything more with it until 5 years later, when he went back to work on it again. It was in 1943 that he first experienced the effects of the drug after accidentally ingesting some of it. That made him curious, so he then deliberately ingested some, and had, as he put it, "the most incredible bicycle ride home." http://www.erowid.org/culture/charac...n_albert.shtml Albert Hofmann died a few months ago. It didn't become popularized until the 1960s, but both the military and the CIA performed experiements with the drug before that time. For an interesting book about this, look he http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...980720-9732442 Joyce -- Adrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk |
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There was a case reported here in the UK recently, a woman was caught putting on her makeup, with a mirror in one hand and her makeup in the other, neither hand was touching the steering wheel, this was at 30mph. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/4785686.stm "Pwllheli Magistrates Court heard on Wednesday how Donna Marie Maddock, 22, from Mold, was travelling at 32mph in a 40mph zone earlier this year. She was using an eyeliner with one hand and a compact in the other. Maddock was fined £200 after admitting careless driving. The court heard she was banned last week for drink-driving." The ban is for 20 months. Pity she wasn't banned for a lot longer! Cheers, helen s |
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