A cat forum. CatBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » CatBanter forum » Cat Newsgroups » Cats - misc
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

How much space for a cat?



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #131  
Old March 1st 04, 08:51 PM
Bob Brenchley.
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:52:22 +0000, Gwenhwyfaer de Tierveil
wrote:

Quoth Bob Brenchley.:
You're making that claim - prove it. Jacqueline has offered evidence
for hers.


Strange, I've seen no evidence which carries any weight from her.


You've refused all offers of documentary evidence. If you're going to
claim there's nothing to see, it's more believable if you have your eyes
open at the time.


There is no evidence to see.

Given her stance, that she has had healthy cats placed in her care by
Cats Protection, with CP knowing in advance that she will be keeping
them indoors 24/7, we are left with only two alternatives that fit
reality. Either she is lying and the cats are not normal healthy cats,
or she is just trolling (another form of lying).


No we're not left with two alternatives; we're left with at least 5
other ones:

(a) she may have a mansion, in which case the floor space indoors is
probably larger than most cats will have access to outdoors.


Irrelevant, it is still indoors.

(b) her local office may differ from the norm in policy.


No, policy is set higher up.

(c) your local office may differ from the norm in policy.


See above.

(d) the cats have been kept indoors all their life, they're about 5, and
whilst perfectly happy and healthy, they're timid.


If they have been kept in all there lives they would go to someone
experience in handling such cases. Someone like me. It can take months
to build an older cat's confidence in the outside world, but the
results are so rewarding I'm happy to spend whatever time is needed.

(e) the cats consistently refused to leave the house, so she gave up
trying to persuade them.


That would be a sign of mental illness that needs treating. See above.

You may be short of imagination, Bob, but don't try and project it onto
us as absolute truth. You're not in possession of that, and neither is
anyone else.


You have a very vivid imagination, but not one that fits very well
with the real world.

*sigh* I remember when you started posting here... you seemed so
amusing, so promising... What happened, Bob? What happened?


Several years of dealing with lying animal abusing trolls.


...and as far as I can see, that constitutes the majority the newsgroup.
Ever wonder about that, Bob? Ever stop to think that just perhaps a
newsgroup does not find itself populated almost exclusively by lying
trolls - especially not lying trolls who seem perfectly capable of
getting on with everyone else in the newsgroup and not insisting that
their opinions are fact - until you, the vessel of ultimate revelation,
arrives to set it to rights? Ever considered that just perhaps it might
be you that's in the wrong?


You will find that there are a lot of other cat lovers out there, and
most of them will confirm all that I've said.

--
Bob.

I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in
public.
  #132  
Old March 1st 04, 09:59 PM
Jacqueline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 19:41:27 +0000, Bob Brenchley.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 14:08:23 +0000, Jacqueline
wrote:
Your facts are out of date.


No, they are bang up to date.

Sorry troll, you lost.


Er, I don't think so matey.

  #133  
Old March 1st 04, 09:59 PM
Jacqueline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 19:41:27 +0000, Bob Brenchley.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 14:08:23 +0000, Jacqueline
wrote:
Your facts are out of date.


No, they are bang up to date.

Sorry troll, you lost.


Er, I don't think so matey.

  #134  
Old March 1st 04, 10:03 PM
Jacqueline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 19:46:34 +0000, Bob Brenchley.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:42:09 +0000, Gwenhwyfaer de Tierveil
wrote:

Quoth Bob Brenchley.:
There is no evidence needed, you have proved by your words that you
are either a liar or a troll.


There we are. A clear offer of evidence refused.


There is no evidence needed, she has already proved herself a liar and
a troll.


The only 'proof' is you insulting me, that's not proof, that's you
being an arse. One can only assume you're not a very educated man. I'd
like to have seen you at school/college/uni - 'no sir, I don't need to
produce evidence, I'm right and everybody else is wrong, and you're
all liars for contradicting me' !!

No, Bob, it doesn't work like that. When someone very clearly has a
quite different opinion and experience than you, it verges on the
sociopathic to just start calling them a liar.


When someone claims something you know to be untrue it is quite normal
to call them a liar.


But what I say is not untrue so your insult is misappropriate.

Saying "that's not my
experience" is perfectly acceptable, because it allows for the
difference - saying "you're a liar" without a full investigation only
demonstrates that you regard any experience differing from your own as
non-existent,


In this case it is. She was given ample opportunity to back out of the
hole she was digging, but eventually you just have to fill it in.


*sigh* I'm not digging anything. For the millionth time, I can offer
you evidence of my experience - you choose to ignore it. That's not my
fault.


  #135  
Old March 1st 04, 10:03 PM
Jacqueline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 19:46:34 +0000, Bob Brenchley.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:42:09 +0000, Gwenhwyfaer de Tierveil
wrote:

Quoth Bob Brenchley.:
There is no evidence needed, you have proved by your words that you
are either a liar or a troll.


There we are. A clear offer of evidence refused.


There is no evidence needed, she has already proved herself a liar and
a troll.


The only 'proof' is you insulting me, that's not proof, that's you
being an arse. One can only assume you're not a very educated man. I'd
like to have seen you at school/college/uni - 'no sir, I don't need to
produce evidence, I'm right and everybody else is wrong, and you're
all liars for contradicting me' !!

No, Bob, it doesn't work like that. When someone very clearly has a
quite different opinion and experience than you, it verges on the
sociopathic to just start calling them a liar.


When someone claims something you know to be untrue it is quite normal
to call them a liar.


But what I say is not untrue so your insult is misappropriate.

Saying "that's not my
experience" is perfectly acceptable, because it allows for the
difference - saying "you're a liar" without a full investigation only
demonstrates that you regard any experience differing from your own as
non-existent,


In this case it is. She was given ample opportunity to back out of the
hole she was digging, but eventually you just have to fill it in.


*sigh* I'm not digging anything. For the millionth time, I can offer
you evidence of my experience - you choose to ignore it. That's not my
fault.


  #136  
Old March 1st 04, 10:16 PM
Bob Brenchley.
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:03:45 +0000, Jacqueline
wrote:

In this case it is. She was given ample opportunity to back out of the
hole she was digging, but eventually you just have to fill it in.


*sigh* I'm not digging anything. For the millionth time, I can offer
you evidence of my experience - you choose to ignore it. That's not my
fault.

I ignore it because I trust my own experience, and those of EVERY
single person I've come across who has ever worked with cats in the
UK, over a lying troll like you on usenet.

--
Bob.

Alas, your intelligence qualifies you more for the primordial soup
than for the "master race." Recognize your limitations. Then shut
up.
  #137  
Old March 1st 04, 10:16 PM
Bob Brenchley.
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:03:45 +0000, Jacqueline
wrote:

In this case it is. She was given ample opportunity to back out of the
hole she was digging, but eventually you just have to fill it in.


*sigh* I'm not digging anything. For the millionth time, I can offer
you evidence of my experience - you choose to ignore it. That's not my
fault.

I ignore it because I trust my own experience, and those of EVERY
single person I've come across who has ever worked with cats in the
UK, over a lying troll like you on usenet.

--
Bob.

Alas, your intelligence qualifies you more for the primordial soup
than for the "master race." Recognize your limitations. Then shut
up.
  #138  
Old March 1st 04, 11:15 PM
Jacqueline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 19:51:58 +0000, Bob Brenchley.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:52:22 +0000, Gwenhwyfaer de Tierveil
wrote:

Quoth Bob Brenchley.:
You're making that claim - prove it. Jacqueline has offered evidence
for hers.

Strange, I've seen no evidence which carries any weight from her.


You've refused all offers of documentary evidence. If you're going to
claim there's nothing to see, it's more believable if you have your eyes
open at the time.


There is no evidence to see.


lol! Yeah, ok.

(a) she may have a mansion, in which case the floor space indoors is
probably larger than most cats will have access to outdoors.


Irrelevant, it is still indoors.

(b) her local office may differ from the norm in policy.


No, policy is set higher up.


Go tell that to my local branch then.

(d) the cats have been kept indoors all their life, they're about 5, and
whilst perfectly happy and healthy, they're timid.


If they have been kept in all there lives they would go to someone
experience in handling such cases. Someone like me. It can take months
to build an older cat's confidence in the outside world, but the
results are so rewarding I'm happy to spend whatever time is needed.


Gosh, it almost sounded like you actually cared about animals there.
Then again, judging by your other posts, I suspect you're making that
lot up to make it seem like you know what you're talking about.
  #139  
Old March 1st 04, 11:15 PM
Jacqueline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 19:51:58 +0000, Bob Brenchley.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:52:22 +0000, Gwenhwyfaer de Tierveil
wrote:

Quoth Bob Brenchley.:
You're making that claim - prove it. Jacqueline has offered evidence
for hers.

Strange, I've seen no evidence which carries any weight from her.


You've refused all offers of documentary evidence. If you're going to
claim there's nothing to see, it's more believable if you have your eyes
open at the time.


There is no evidence to see.


lol! Yeah, ok.

(a) she may have a mansion, in which case the floor space indoors is
probably larger than most cats will have access to outdoors.


Irrelevant, it is still indoors.

(b) her local office may differ from the norm in policy.


No, policy is set higher up.


Go tell that to my local branch then.

(d) the cats have been kept indoors all their life, they're about 5, and
whilst perfectly happy and healthy, they're timid.


If they have been kept in all there lives they would go to someone
experience in handling such cases. Someone like me. It can take months
to build an older cat's confidence in the outside world, but the
results are so rewarding I'm happy to spend whatever time is needed.


Gosh, it almost sounded like you actually cared about animals there.
Then again, judging by your other posts, I suspect you're making that
lot up to make it seem like you know what you're talking about.
  #140  
Old March 1st 04, 11:24 PM
Jacqueline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:16:03 +0000, Bob Brenchley.
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:03:45 +0000, Jacqueline
wrote:

In this case it is. She was given ample opportunity to back out of the
hole she was digging, but eventually you just have to fill it in.


*sigh* I'm not digging anything. For the millionth time, I can offer
you evidence of my experience - you choose to ignore it. That's not my
fault.

I ignore it because I trust my own experience, and those of EVERY
single person I've come across who has ever worked with cats in the
UK,


Then you're only seeing what you want to see. I've owned cats, I've
worked with cats, I've had umpteen years of experience with a
particular branch of a national UK charity - and my experience differs
from yours. If you weren't so closed-minded you might actually learn
something. Instead of insulting me you could actually try and have a
conversation and learn something about my experiences. But no, you'd
rather dismiss something you disagree with out of hand and that's
that. You know nothing about me or my work, yet you take it upon
yourself to make assumptions and cast aspersions on the validity of my
argument. Sorry, but it's obvious who's the: "lying troll like you on
usenet."


 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Human health risks w/ cat pooping in crawl space? Hank Cat health & behaviour 10 October 28th 03 12:45 PM
[catslaves] - Photo Space Yowie Cat anecdotes 11 October 2nd 03 10:13 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 CatBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.