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On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:14:12 +0000, Christina Websell wrote:

There are no declawed cats waiting for homes here AFAIK. It is, quite
rightly, illegal to remove the claws here unless for veterinary reasons
where nothing else can help a bad infection in the nail bed. Never seen
one yet.
Tweed

And that is as it should be. Some day the US will wake up and pass
similar legislation.

Dan

and i hope you never do, Lee
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"Storrmmee" wrote in message
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that is the only kind of stray and ferrell i have not tended to, alter
and unaltered, even one who was declawed but was obvvioulsy used to the
outside, that sent me up the light pole letme tell you, she was a
beautiful long hairred calico, declawed, and i think altered, and
polydactile to boot... she was adopted in three days from the sleter, Lee

There are no declawed cats waiting for homes here AFAIK. It is, quite
rightly, illegal to remove the claws here unless for veterinary reasons
where nothing else can help a bad infection in the nail bed. Never seen
one yet.
Tweed






"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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I am still waiting for one to come, and it will.
No preggo mums ever show up here.
No strays either.

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oohh don't be that way, otherwise, a preggo mom who was a major slut to
the tune of ten kits will show up, then what will you do... lol, Lee
thinking of who would be more hiorrified, tweed or boyfriend, ...
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Adrian wrote:
Arthur Shapiro wrote:
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When I got home this afternoon there was a strange white cat on
the kitchen counte
Well, don't keep us hanging! Friendly? Drying out and not anxious
to leave?

Art

She seems friendly but scared, she was still in the same place when
I went
to bed I wonder if she'll still be there in the morning.

Well, she's had her breakfast and lunch. Guess I'll have to start
thinking of a name. Baggy seems to be afraid of her and is off his
food, I hope that doesn't last. I also hope she soon moves off the
kitchen counter it is rather inconvenient and cats aren't really
allowed on the counter.

You lucky, lucky man. You've been sent a new cat and I've been
waiting so long for mine since Kitty FC passed away.
One will come, but I'm getting impatient.
Tweed

On Jan 25, 6:35*am, Adrian wrote:
Adrian wrote:
Arthur Shapiro wrote:
In article , wrote:
When I got home this afternoon there was a strange white cat on the
kitchen counte
Well, don't keep us hanging! *Friendly? *Drying out and not anxious to leave?

Art

She seems friendly but scared, she was still in the same place when I went
to bed I wonder if she'll still be there in the morning.

Well, she's had her breakfast and lunch. Guess I'll have to start
thinking of a name. Baggy seems to be afraid of her and is off his food,
I hope that doesn't last. I also hope she soon moves off the kitchen
counter it is rather inconvenient and cats aren't really allowed on the
counter.

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Adrian



.. . . can you pick her up; hold her against your heart and comfort
her? Then show her where is the kitty litter box etc. Use your voice
as you make loving eye contact with her? Itis late i need to go to
bed . . . sorry . . .

Dan M wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:14:12 +0000, Christina Websell wrote:

There are no declawed cats waiting for homes here AFAIK. It is, quite
rightly, illegal to remove the claws here unless for veterinary reasons
where nothing else can help a bad infection in the nail bed. Never seen
one yet.
Tweed

And that is as it should be. Some day the US will wake up and pass
similar legislation.

Dan

I think a lot of the problem here is that many people (most?) don't
realize it's not just a matter of "removing fingernails", but actual
amputation of the first joint of the toe! One of mine had been declawed
before I got her, then abandoned by my neighbor across the hall (in an
apartment building with hallways and no access to the outside). Since
the building manager's cat strongly objected to sharing his home with
another cat, I agreed to keep her until we could find a home for her.
Usually when a vet declaws a cat, the animal is spayed and/or neutered
at the same time. I'd had her for about a week when she came in heat!
Because my resident cat had been mourning the companion I had to have
PTS, the two had already begun to bond, so after spending the money for
a spay, it made more sense to just keep her rather than find another
home for her. It has worked out well - my two girls are the best of
friends, and neither seems to miss the "out" too badly.

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:

I think a lot of the problem here is that many people (most?) don't
realize it's not just a matter of "removing fingernails", but actual
amputation of the first joint of the toe!

Even if declawing *were* nothing more than removing fingernails, I would
still be against it. Cats need their claws. And even if someone is planning
to keep their declawed cat indoors, can they guarantee the cat will never
get out? Can they be sure there will never be a house fire, or a break-in,
or a pet sitter who stands just a little too long in the open doorway so
that the cat bolts outside? (That happened with Smudge once while I was
out of town. Luckily, Smudge had claws.) How about a window screen with a
weakness along the side, where the cat manages to rip it open further and
squeeze through? So many things could happen.

A cat's front claws are probably its best defense - against attack, and
also for the purpose of hunting and feeding itself. Since our best defense
is our brains, I think declawing would be like giving someone a lobotomy
and then saying, "OK, go fend for yourself."

Usually when a vet declaws a cat, the animal is spayed and/or neutered
at the same time. I'd had her for about a week when she came in heat!

Declawed but not neutered? Nice to see that someone had their priorities
straight.

--
Joyce

Fluffy Mackerel Pudding - "Once upon a time, the world was young and the
words 'mackerel' and 'pudding' existed far, far away from one another. One
day, that all changed. And then, whoever was responsible somehow thought
the word 'fluffy' would help." -- Hilarious recipes at: www.candyboots.com

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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:

I think a lot of the problem here is that many people (most?) don't
realize it's not just a matter of "removing fingernails", but actual
amputation of the first joint of the toe!

Even if declawing *were* nothing more than removing fingernails, I would
still be against it. Cats need their claws. And even if someone is
planning
to keep their declawed cat indoors, can they guarantee the cat will never
get out? Can they be sure there will never be a house fire, or a break-in,
or a pet sitter who stands just a little too long in the open doorway so
that the cat bolts outside? (That happened with Smudge once while I was
out of town. Luckily, Smudge had claws.) How about a window screen with a
weakness along the side, where the cat manages to rip it open further and
squeeze through? So many things could happen.

A cat's front claws are probably its best defense - against attack, and
also for the purpose of hunting and feeding itself. Since our best defense
is our brains, I think declawing would be like giving someone a lobotomy
and then saying, "OK, go fend for yourself."

Usually when a vet declaws a cat, the animal is spayed and/or neutered
at the same time. I'd had her for about a week when she came in heat!

Declawed but not neutered? Nice to see that someone had their priorities
straight.


the thing is that you can ask your vet if he is in favour of declawing at
the same time as neutering, and if he says yes, tell him why you will never
use his services again.
If everyone in America would do this, things would change.
Everycat here has claws.
Boyfie uses his to claw my rugs/carpets if I tell him "No"
I ignore it.

the problem with this is that so many vets have so much business that you
must consider other issues along with this one, I had an hour long talk with
the vet i use about this subject, she would prefer no cat to be declawed.

after a long conversation she said the practicality of declaw while nuturing
is to reduce the drugs into the cat, when i pushed her she said that in her
experience about twenty five percent of cats had emotional issues from
declaw, these were generally older cats... when i pushed again she finally
adnitted that she did declaw only i f requested by the client, the practice
never offers it, when i said why she said she had fixed or tried to fix so
many botched declaw jobs that she finally figured if she did it at least
infection and hopefully orthopedic issues would be reduced... she also kept
records of botched jobs and without being specific was able to prevent at
least one vet from practicing further after a while, Lee
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:

I think a lot of the problem here is that many people (most?) don't
realize it's not just a matter of "removing fingernails", but actual
amputation of the first joint of the toe!

Even if declawing *were* nothing more than removing fingernails, I would
still be against it. Cats need their claws. And even if someone is
planning
to keep their declawed cat indoors, can they guarantee the cat will never
get out? Can they be sure there will never be a house fire, or a
break-in,
or a pet sitter who stands just a little too long in the open doorway so
that the cat bolts outside? (That happened with Smudge once while I was
out of town. Luckily, Smudge had claws.) How about a window screen with a
weakness along the side, where the cat manages to rip it open further and
squeeze through? So many things could happen.

A cat's front claws are probably its best defense - against attack, and
also for the purpose of hunting and feeding itself. Since our best
defense
is our brains, I think declawing would be like giving someone a lobotomy
and then saying, "OK, go fend for yourself."

Usually when a vet declaws a cat, the animal is spayed and/or neutered
at the same time. I'd had her for about a week when she came in heat!

Declawed but not neutered? Nice to see that someone had their priorities
straight.


the thing is that you can ask your vet if he is in favour of declawing at
the same time as neutering, and if he says yes, tell him why you will
never use his services again.
If everyone in America would do this, things would change.
Everycat here has claws.
Boyfie uses his to claw my rugs/carpets if I tell him "No"
I ignore it.

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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:

I think a lot of the problem here is that many people (most?) don't
realize it's not just a matter of "removing fingernails", but actual
amputation of the first joint of the toe!

Even if declawing *were* nothing more than removing fingernails, I would
still be against it. Cats need their claws. And even if someone is planning
to keep their declawed cat indoors, can they guarantee the cat will never
get out? Can they be sure there will never be a house fire, or a break-in,
or a pet sitter who stands just a little too long in the open doorway so
that the cat bolts outside? (That happened with Smudge once while I was
out of town. Luckily, Smudge had claws.) How about a window screen with a
weakness along the side, where the cat manages to rip it open further and
squeeze through? So many things could happen.

You're preaching to the choir, here - I am adamantly opposed to
declawing! (But what was I to do - refuse to give her a home because
her previous owner had her declawed?)

Usually when a vet declaws a cat, the animal is spayed and/or neutered
at the same time. I'd had her for about a week when she came in heat!

Declawed but not neutered? Nice to see that someone had their priorities
straight.

Yeah, you can imagine my shock. (But there's no mistaking the behaviour
of a female cat in heat.)

On Jan 28, 10:45*am, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
wrote:
*(But there's no mistaking the behaviour
of a female cat in heat.)

Tell me about it! We got Sarsi and Dunzi at about 2 months then some
odds and sods (work problems/family crisis) meant they were suddenly
about 7 months old and I came in and Dave was worried bout Sarsi's
back since she kept walking round with her tummy on the floor her
backside in the air and her tail off to one side whilst emitting what
he thought were cries of pain

I called the vets and booked them in for their spays the follwoing
Friday

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs