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My first critical application of upside down packaging tape was to
keep my cat off of the windowsill in a cat-hostile apartment complex. Now that I'm temporarily fostering three kittens... They start chewing on a group of electrical cords in a very small area on the floor. Put two pieces of 4 inch long packaging tape among the electrical cords. Reapplied as necessary. I just love it when they start whining about having the tape stuck to them, and I get to come to their rescue ![]() one hour later, no more chewing on the electrical cords. BOOM. If you've ever seen what household current can do to tool-steel in an instant (like when you accidentally cut through it), you will freak out at the thought of your cats accidentally chewing through an electrical cord. It just can't happen. |
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John Doe wrote:
My first critical application of upside down packaging tape was to keep my cat off of the windowsill in a cat-hostile apartment complex. Now that I'm temporarily fostering three kittens... They start chewing on a group of electrical cords in a very small area on the floor. Put two pieces of 4 inch long packaging tape among the electrical cords. Reapplied as necessary. I just love it when they start whining about having the tape stuck to them, and I get to come to their rescue ![]() one hour later, no more chewing on the electrical cords. BOOM. If you've ever seen what household current can do to tool-steel in an instant (like when you accidentally cut through it), you will freak out at the thought of your cats accidentally chewing through an electrical cord. It just can't happen. It helps to put ground fault protectors on all your circuits. that way, as soon as some groung current is drawn, the breaker trips and the cat probably won't feel a thing. This is especially true if your electricasl wires are swhielded by grounded woven steel cables, The cats will have to chew through those first, and then as soon as it bites into the hot wire, the ground current will trip the breaker off and it won't come back on until/unless you reset it. Most new houses have these in the bathrooms and kitchens, but there is no reason why you couldn't put them throughout your house. They are great for young pets and children who are likely to mess with the wiring. |
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Circuit breakers have been used for ages (here in the United
States). They are used on every circuit in a house. Problem is, in order to detect a short circuit, current must be extremely high (at least over the outlet's rated current). If you think it's not going to hurt your cats, test your theory by cutting through a wire that's plugged into the wall. Be sure to make a video. In case it kills you, leave a note for somebody else to upload the video. What you will probably experience is a "BOOM" followed by the circuit breaker tripping. And you will notice a piece of your diagonal cutting pliers is missing. It would be like setting off a firecracker in your cat's mouth. This troll must be drunk... -- "Bill Graham" weg9 comcast.net wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!border3.nntp.dca.giga news.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.gig anews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.gigane ws.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 01:16:36 -0500 From: "Bill Graham" weg9 comcast.net Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav References: l0gefc$1qk$1 dont-email.me In-Reply-To: l0gefc$1qk$1 dont-email.me Subject: Upside down packaging tape, no more chewing on electrical cords Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 23:16:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 Message-ID: 6pSdndi6JOtY-rDPnZ2dnUVZ5hOdnZ2d giganews.com Lines: 26 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-ejDs1ch+9GTRloKJ9EYNNGpcFM8wrVa3FC0JgTB4vMrreHee6s gDa3Qa5HmcNADdPbp+TRVpJ3fbMHO!r6yRKFnwhraMc3i+iJVM C1UzPT58XX9YR10DtUP7Yb8V+gqhye6U5Fg+YCe1daSP+BvxG6 eZlMJ6 X-Complaints-To: abuse giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2865 Xref: news.eternal-september.org rec.pets.cats.health+behav:11356 John Doe wrote: My first critical application of upside down packaging tape was to keep my cat off of the windowsill in a cat-hostile apartment complex. Now that I'm temporarily fostering three kittens... They start chewing on a group of electrical cords in a very small area on the floor. Put two pieces of 4 inch long packaging tape among the electrical cords. Reapplied as necessary. I just love it when they start whining about having the tape stuck to them, and I get to come to their rescue ![]() one hour later, no more chewing on the electrical cords. BOOM. If you've ever seen what household current can do to tool-steel in an instant (like when you accidentally cut through it), you will freak out at the thought of your cats accidentally chewing through an electrical cord. It just can't happen. It helps to put ground fault protectors on all your circuits. that way, as soon as some groung current is drawn, the breaker trips and the cat probably won't feel a thing. This is especially true if your electricasl wires are swhielded by grounded woven steel cables, The cats will have to chew through those first, and then as soon as it bites into the hot wire, the ground current will trip the breaker off and it won't come back on until/unless you reset it. Most new houses have these in the bathrooms and kitchens, but there is no reason why you couldn't put them throughout your house. They are great for young pets and children who are likely to mess with the wiring. |
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It would be like setting off a firecracker in your cat's mouth.
That's just one possible scenario. It probably wouldn't be worse. Another possibility is the outlet sourcing up to 15 amps through your cat's/kitten's mouth without tripping the circuit breaker. The electricity would probably burn some flesh and your cat would run away crying. Also possible is a much lesser shock that would hopefully scare it into stopping before it's injured. There are many possibilities depending on how your cat's teeth/tongue/saliva contact the wires. The BOOM scenario is a distinct possibility though, as you can experience by cutting through an appliance wire. As a kid, you might have touched a 9 V battery to your tongue. If you did the same with a 120 V wire prong (like a snake's tongue), it would probably go BOOM and burn a serious hole in your tongue. I wouldn't want to try that experiment. |
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John Doe wrote:
Circuit breakers have been used for ages (here in the United States). They are used on every circuit in a house. Problem is, in order to detect a short circuit, current must be extremely high (at least over the outlet's rated current). If you think it's not going to hurt your cats, test your theory by cutting through a wire that's plugged into the wall. Be sure to make a video. In case it kills you, leave a note for somebody else to upload the video. What you will probably experience is a "BOOM" followed by the circuit breaker tripping. And you will notice a piece of your diagonal cutting pliers is missing. It would be like setting off a firecracker in your cat's mouth. You either didn't read my post, or don't understand it. I am talking about a special kind of circuit breaker, called, "Ground Fault Interrupter" Circuit breakers. These detect very small amounts of current leaking to ground, and pull the breaker immediately when they do. Current drawn between one side of the line and the other doesn't count. Its current drawn to the ground on grounded devices that trips the breaker when it is less than 10 milliaMPS. they use them maiunly in baths and kitchens where there is water, but there is no reason why they can't be usede anywhere in the house, as long as there exists a ground to draw the current. Most electrical cords arent shielded, so the GFI wouldn;t work. But you casn get shielded cords for anything, and as long ss the shield is grounded at the Circuit Breaker end, it will trip the breaker as soon as 10 milliamps of ground current is detected. When a cat chews through the shield and hits a live wire, the ground current through the shield will trip the breaker. Ask an elecftrician about them.... He wiull be able to install them anywhere in your home that you please. |
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John Doe wrote:
It would be like setting off a firecracker in your cat's mouth. That's just one possible scenario. It probably wouldn't be worse. Another possibility is the outlet sourcing up to 15 amps through your cat's/kitten's mouth without tripping the circuit breaker. The electricity would probably burn some flesh and your cat would run away crying. Also possible is a much lesser shock that would hopefully scare it into stopping before it's injured. There are many possibilities depending on how your cat's teeth/tongue/saliva contact the wires. The BOOM scenario is a distinct possibility though, as you can experience by cutting through an appliance wire. As a kid, you might have touched a 9 V battery to your tongue. If you did the same with a 120 V wire prong (like a snake's tongue), it would probably go BOOM and burn a serious hole in your tongue. I wouldn't want to try that experiment. Shielded cords plus GFI's will prevent that from happening. Read about them he http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ctric/gfi.html |
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Bill Graham wrote:
John Doe wrote: It would be like setting off a firecracker in your cat's mouth. That's just one possible scenario. It probably wouldn't be worse. Another possibility is the outlet sourcing up to 15 amps through your cat's/kitten's mouth without tripping the circuit breaker. The electricity would probably burn some flesh and your cat would run away crying. Also possible is a much lesser shock that would hopefully scare it into stopping before it's injured. There are many possibilities depending on how your cat's teeth/tongue/saliva contact the wires. The BOOM scenario is a distinct possibility though, as you can experience by cutting through an appliance wire. As a kid, you might have touched a 9 V battery to your tongue. If you did the same with a 120 V wire prong (like a snake's tongue), it would probably go BOOM and burn a serious hole in your tongue. I wouldn't want to try that experiment. Shielded cords plus GFI's will prevent that from happening. Read about them he http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ctric/gfi.html Please remember that some circuit interrupters can act very quickly. There is a guy who builds them into his table saws. He can put his hand into the saw blade when it is running, and the break will stop the saw so fast that it doesn't even break his skin. Of course, this requires more than just the GFI. He also has to stop the saw. But he is able to do both, using a GFI to initiate the process..... |
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Crazy talk...
-- "Bill Graham" weg9 comcast.net wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!border3.nntp.dca.giga news.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.gig anews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.gigane ws.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 00:41:46 -0500 From: "Bill Graham" weg9 comcast.net Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav References: l0gefc$1qk$1 dont-email.me 6pSdndi6JOtY-rDPnZ2dnUVZ5hOdnZ2d giganews.com l0l8uh$umo$1 dont-email.me l0m0go$m4r$1 dont-email.me DYidnaG6sM9BNrPPnZ2dnUVZ5hGdnZ2d giganews.com In-Reply-To: DYidnaG6sM9BNrPPnZ2dnUVZ5hGdnZ2d giganews.com Subject: Upside down packaging tape, no more chewing on electrical cords Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 22:41:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 Message-ID: Z76dnf9cUOGHLLPPnZ2dnUVZ5vWdnZ2d giganews.com Lines: 29 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-F6SkHCjplnaSk0lljeH1YOocdIQ8XoTEkEhS1Yb8Q6KHgPFx7O pZMldqb2tKkH77GOBk4iIfFHehRMp!ATHv/7d5I6NHqtkpqs0s5u8pRWkg5nHrbGP4PPUH78XuvRb9I91oKSB KMhvwWcnHcnMrZc9OQJmk X-Complaints-To: abuse giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3008 Xref: news.eternal-september.org rec.pets.cats.health+behav:11361 Bill Graham wrote: John Doe wrote: It would be like setting off a firecracker in your cat's mouth. That's just one possible scenario. It probably wouldn't be worse. Another possibility is the outlet sourcing up to 15 amps through your cat's/kitten's mouth without tripping the circuit breaker. The electricity would probably burn some flesh and your cat would run away crying. Also possible is a much lesser shock that would hopefully scare it into stopping before it's injured. There are many possibilities depending on how your cat's teeth/tongue/saliva contact the wires. The BOOM scenario is a distinct possibility though, as you can experience by cutting through an appliance wire. As a kid, you might have touched a 9 V battery to your tongue. If you did the same with a 120 V wire prong (like a snake's tongue), it would probably go BOOM and burn a serious hole in your tongue. I wouldn't want to try that experiment. Shielded cords plus GFI's will prevent that from happening. Read about them he http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ctric/gfi.html Please remember that some circuit interrupters can act very quickly. There is a guy who builds them into his table saws. He can put his hand into the saw blade when it is running, and the break will stop the saw so fast that it doesn't even break his skin. Of course, this requires more than just the GFI. He also has to stop the saw. But he is able to do both, using a GFI to initiate the process..... |
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Anybody who knows anything about electricity would know what I am
talking about. I'm talking about current flowing from one wire to the other through your cat's mouth. It has nothing to do with current flowing through your cat to a tub of water or whatever. There is no abnormal current flow, your cat's mouth acts like a circuit. I don't need to ask an electrician, I know plenty about electricity and electronics. Besides, I've experienced the thing. Again... All you have to do is test your theory. And please record the video... -- "Bill Graham" weg9 comcast.net wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!border3.nntp.dca.giga news.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.gig anews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.gigane ws.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 00:15:25 -0500 From: "Bill Graham" weg9 comcast.net Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav,free.usenet,free.spirit References: l0gefc$1qk$1 dont-email.me 6pSdndi6JOtY-rDPnZ2dnUVZ5hOdnZ2d giganews.com l0l8uh$umo$1 dont-email.me In-Reply-To: l0l8uh$umo$1 dont-email.me Subject: Upside down packaging tape, no more chewing on electrical cords Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 22:15:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 Message-ID: rsydnaMEz_pwN7PPnZ2dnUVZ5gadnZ2d giganews.com Lines: 31 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-CSnPIBcLEn6273xLElN0XFzNNwuSA5fyTvF34V8OdorrILGVOl 0Kf5/8KRva0NTxxqrb11l7wGSA1U1!Ah17ogBWBSfTEE6+HjdIfXxxi 91NK07voWx3+G45CGSD5753LcybmsWKS+F+9Mp5qUkxPuyOQjB G X-Complaints-To: abuse giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3267 Xref: news.eternal-september.org rec.pets.cats.health+behav:11359 free.usenet:4630323 free.spirit:1100 John Doe wrote: Circuit breakers have been used for ages (here in the United States). They are used on every circuit in a house. Problem is, in order to detect a short circuit, current must be extremely high (at least over the outlet's rated current). If you think it's not going to hurt your cats, test your theory by cutting through a wire that's plugged into the wall. Be sure to make a video. In case it kills you, leave a note for somebody else to upload the video. What you will probably experience is a "BOOM" followed by the circuit breaker tripping. And you will notice a piece of your diagonal cutting pliers is missing. It would be like setting off a firecracker in your cat's mouth. You either didn't read my post, or don't understand it. I am talking about a special kind of circuit breaker, called, "Ground Fault Interrupter" Circuit breakers. These detect very small amounts of current leaking to ground, and pull the breaker immediately when they do. Current drawn between one side of the line and the other doesn't count. Its current drawn to the ground on grounded devices that trips the breaker when it is less than 10 milliaMPS. they use them maiunly in baths and kitchens where there is water, but there is no reason why they can't be usede anywhere in the house, as long as there exists a ground to draw the current. Most electrical cords arent shielded, so the GFI wouldn;t work. But you casn get shielded cords for anything, and as long ss the shield is grounded at the Circuit Breaker end, it will trip the breaker as soon as 10 milliamps of ground current is detected. When a cat chews through the shield and hits a live wire, the ground current through the shield will trip the breaker. Ask an elecftrician about them.... He wiull be able to install them anywhere in your home that you please. |
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John Doe wrote:
Anybody who knows anything about electricity would know what I am talking about. I'm talking about current flowing from one wire to the other through your cat's mouth. It has nothing to do with current flowing through your cat to a tub of water or whatever. There is no abnormal current flow, your cat's mouth acts like a circuit. I don't need to ask an electrician, I know plenty about electricity and electronics. Besides, I've experienced the thing. Again... All you have to do is test your theory. And please record the video... Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!border3.nntp.dca.giga news.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.gig anews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.gigane ws.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 00:15:25 -0500 From: "Bill Graham" weg9 comcast.net Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav,free.usenet,free.spirit References: l0gefc$1qk$1 dont-email.me 6pSdndi6JOtY-rDPnZ2dnUVZ5hOdnZ2d giganews.com l0l8uh$umo$1 dont-email.me In-Reply-To: l0l8uh$umo$1 dont-email.me Subject: Upside down packaging tape, no more chewing on electrical cords Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 22:15:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 Message-ID: rsydnaMEz_pwN7PPnZ2dnUVZ5gadnZ2d giganews.com Lines: 31 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-CSnPIBcLEn6273xLElN0XFzNNwuSA5fyTvF34V8OdorrILGVOl 0Kf5/8KRva0NTxxqrb11l7wGSA1U1!Ah17ogBWBSfTEE6+HjdIfXxxi 91NK07voWx3+G45CGSD5753LcybmsWKS+F+9Mp5qUkxPuyOQjB G X-Complaints-To: abuse giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3267 Xref: news.eternal-september.org rec.pets.cats.health+behav:11359 free.usenet:4630323 free.spirit:1100 John Doe wrote: Circuit breakers have been used for ages (here in the United States). They are used on every circuit in a house. Problem is, in order to detect a short circuit, current must be extremely high (at least over the outlet's rated current). If you think it's not going to hurt your cats, test your theory by cutting through a wire that's plugged into the wall. Be sure to make a video. In case it kills you, leave a note for somebody else to upload the video. What you will probably experience is a "BOOM" followed by the circuit breaker tripping. And you will notice a piece of your diagonal cutting pliers is missing. It would be like setting off a firecracker in your cat's mouth. You either didn't read my post, or don't understand it. I am talking about a special kind of circuit breaker, called, "Ground Fault Interrupter" Circuit breakers. These detect very small amounts of current leaking to ground, and pull the breaker immediately when they do. Current drawn between one side of the line and the other doesn't count. Its current drawn to the ground on grounded devices that trips the breaker when it is less than 10 milliaMPS. they use them maiunly in baths and kitchens where there is water, but there is no reason why they can't be usede anywhere in the house, as long as there exists a ground to draw the current. Most electrical cords arent shielded, so the GFI wouldn;t work. But you casn get shielded cords for anything, and as long ss the shield is grounded at the Circuit Breaker end, it will trip the breaker as soon as 10 milliamps of ground current is detected. When a cat chews through the shield and hits a live wire, the ground current through the shield will trip the breaker. Ask an elecftrician about them.... He wiull be able to install them anywhere in your home that you please. GFI's have been around for many years. They automatically pull the breaker before any high current gets into your cat's mouth. If you, "know all about electricity" then you should know about GFI's. I sent you a link. If you donl;t want to read it or learn anything, that's your business. I have completed my obligation. You can lead someone to knowlkege, but you can't make him learn... |
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