Minor disaster for our cats

Not a disaster for mine, but for my neighbor's and the outside cats.
I'm moving to Florida in a few months, which still left two feeders
for the outdoor cats. But the owner of the house in which my neighbor
Serene's family rents an apartment just died and her sons want to sell
the place, which means that Serene will have to move.

They have six indoor cats, and we share four outdoor cats. Finding a
new place to live that will take six cats will not be trivial, and
will likely be very expensive. And the outdoor cats will have even
bigger problem, since three are quite feral and only one feeder will
be left. THe last feeder has little money, but I'm willing to fund a
standing order of food for the outdoor cats.

Even worse is that one of the outdoor cats, Baby, is very friendly. I
might have to take her to a shelter for adoption, but she's around 5
yo and it's kitten season so there is certainly no guarantee.

I suspect that I may end up taking baby with me when I move, but I'm
only allowed two cats in the new place and I already have three. I
told my mother that if I have a problem, she can have one. She was
less than enthusiastic.

Of course, I'm selling a house on the block that would be perfect for
them, but there is no way on earth that they can afford it, and
selling that house is funding my retirement so I can't screw around
with it.

Ugh.

On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 07:22:30 +0000 (GMT), Judith Latham
wrote:

In article ,
dgk wrote:
Not a disaster for mine, but for my neighbor's and the outside cats.
I'm moving to Florida in a few months, which still left two feeders
for the outdoor cats. But the owner of the house in which my neighbor
Serene's family rents an apartment just died and her sons want to sell
the place, which means that Serene will have to move.

They have six indoor cats, and we share four outdoor cats. Finding a
new place to live that will take six cats will not be trivial, and
will likely be very expensive. And the outdoor cats will have even
bigger problem, since three are quite feral and only one feeder will
be left. THe last feeder has little money, but I'm willing to fund a
standing order of food for the outdoor cats.

Even worse is that one of the outdoor cats, Baby, is very friendly. I
might have to take her to a shelter for adoption, but she's around 5
yo and it's kitten season so there is certainly no guarantee.

I suspect that I may end up taking baby with me when I move, but I'm
only allowed two cats in the new place and I already have three. I
told my mother that if I have a problem, she can have one. She was
less than enthusiastic.

Of course, I'm selling a house on the block that would be perfect for
them, but there is no way on earth that they can afford it, and
selling that house is funding my retirement so I can't screw around
with it.

Ugh.

That's a difficult situation. However, I'm sure that you'll find a
solution, these cats are lucky to have people who care about them.

Judith

Mom called and asked if Baby wouldn't miss being outdoors. I told her
that Baby would be perfectly happy roaming around a nice house with a
nice lady who gives her food and pets her. All true.

"dgk" wrote in message
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Not a disaster for mine, but for my neighbor's and the outside cats.
I'm moving to Florida in a few months, which still left two feeders
for the outdoor cats. But the owner of the house in which my neighbor
Serene's family rents an apartment just died and her sons want to sell
the place, which means that Serene will have to move.

They have six indoor cats, and we share four outdoor cats. Finding a
new place to live that will take six cats will not be trivial, and
will likely be very expensive. And the outdoor cats will have even
bigger problem, since three are quite feral and only one feeder will
be left. THe last feeder has little money, but I'm willing to fund a
standing order of food for the outdoor cats.

Even worse is that one of the outdoor cats, Baby, is very friendly. I
might have to take her to a shelter for adoption, but she's around 5
yo and it's kitten season so there is certainly no I suspect that I may
end up taking baby with me when I move, but I'm
only allowed two cats in the new place and I already have three.

You are buying your new house? Not renting? If you are buying who tells
you how many cats you can have?
I own my house and in theory I could have as many cats as I want. I could
have 20 if I wanted to. But it's the vet bills that stop me. Plus Boyfie
saying "this house is mine, this meowmie is mine and I'm prepared to fight
about it"

On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 21:27:30 -0700, The Other Guy
wrote:

On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 23:59:58 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:

You are buying your new house? Not renting? If you are buying who tells
you how many cats you can have?

There are many places in the US where all the homes are part
of an 'association', and that association makes rules everyone
has to follow. The members are elected from the owners of the
homes, renters have no say in things at all, owners have little
say if they aren't on the board.

Personally, I've never lived in such a place, and wouldn't,
but I've known people who have.

Some loved it, others not so much.



Yes, it's the good with the bad. I can't do things that annoy my
neighbors but they can't annoy me. It's a fairly cooperative system.

On 4/2/2015 11:27 PM, The Other Guy wrote:
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 23:59:58 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:

You are buying your new house? Not renting? If you are buying who tells
you how many cats you can have?

There are many places in the US where all the homes are part
of an 'association', and that association makes rules everyone
has to follow. The members are elected from the owners of the
homes, renters have no say in things at all, owners have little
say if they aren't on the board.

Personally, I've never lived in such a place, and wouldn't,
but I've known people who have.

Some loved it, others not so much.





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Yes, we have several subdivisions in town that have home owners'
associations. I have a couple of friends who live in them, and they are
happy. The local HOAs are not nearly as restrictive (or expensive) as
the one Jill has described, but they do have rules. One of the
advantages is that the HOA takes care of all lawns. For myself, I
really do not want to live under those rules, so I avoided those
subdivisions when I bought my house a number of years ago.

MaryL

On 4/6/2015 4:15 PM, MaryL wrote:
On 4/2/2015 11:27 PM, The Other Guy wrote:
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 23:59:58 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:

You are buying your new house? Not renting? If you are buying who
tells
you how many cats you can have?

There are many places in the US where all the homes are part
of an 'association', and that association makes rules everyone
has to follow. The members are elected from the owners of the
homes, renters have no say in things at all, owners have little
say if they aren't on the board.

Personally, I've never lived in such a place, and wouldn't,
but I've known people who have.

Some loved it, others not so much.





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Yes, we have several subdivisions in town that have home owners'
associations. I have a couple of friends who live in them, and they are
happy. The local HOAs are not nearly as restrictive (or expensive) as
the one Jill has described, but they do have rules. One of the
advantages is that the HOA takes care of all lawns. For myself, I
really do not want to live under those rules, so I avoided those
subdivisions when I bought my house a number of years ago.

MaryL

Mine is not a true HOA. If it was, I wouldn't have to deal with lawn
care myself. They don't, however, tell you how many pets you're allowed
to own. There are leash laws and no pets running loose rules.

Jill

On 4/6/2015 4:10 PM, jmcquown wrote:
On 4/6/2015 4:15 PM, MaryL wrote:
On 4/2/2015 11:27 PM, The Other Guy wrote:
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 23:59:58 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:

You are buying your new house? Not renting? If you are buying who
tells
you how many cats you can have?

There are many places in the US where all the homes are part
of an 'association', and that association makes rules everyone
has to follow. The members are elected from the owners of the
homes, renters have no say in things at all, owners have little
say if they aren't on the board.

Personally, I've never lived in such a place, and wouldn't,
but I've known people who have.

Some loved it, others not so much.





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Yes, we have several subdivisions in town that have home owners'
associations. I have a couple of friends who live in them, and they are
happy. The local HOAs are not nearly as restrictive (or expensive) as
the one Jill has described, but they do have rules. One of the
advantages is that the HOA takes care of all lawns. For myself, I
really do not want to live under those rules, so I avoided those
subdivisions when I bought my house a number of years ago.

MaryL

Mine is not a true HOA. If it was, I wouldn't have to deal with lawn
care myself. They don't, however, tell you how many pets you're allowed
to own. There are leash laws and no pets running loose rules.

Jill
Wow! No lawn care. Considering all their rules and expenses, that
would really annoy me. It seems to me that lawn care would be one of
the few benefits of a HOA (not sure what to call yours now).
Fortunately, they don't limit cats and do have leash laws.

MaryL

"The Other Guy" wrote in message
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On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 23:59:58 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:

You are buying your new house? Not renting? If you are buying who tells
you how many cats you can have?

There are many places in the US where all the homes are part
of an 'association', and that association makes rules everyone
has to follow. The members are elected from the owners of the
homes, renters have no say in things at all, owners have little
say if they aren't on the board.

Personally, I've never lived in such a place, and wouldn't,
but I've known people who have.

Some loved it, others not so much.

I don't like the idea that if you own your own house you can't have as many
cats as you want. In theory, I can keep pigs here, my deeds tell me so. I
don't. But I could.
There's room for them, but I'm a bit scared of them. My husband had a
friend that got his thigh muscle ripped out by a pig.
There is nothing to stop me having a multitude of cats. Except the vet
bills. I could afford two and I am still waiting for another to arrive.
Boyfie says No. Absolutely Not. Sharing his meowmie is not an option.




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Christina Websell wrote:

"The Other Guy" wrote in message
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On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 23:59:58 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote:

You are buying your new house? Not renting? If you are buying who tells
you how many cats you can have?

There are many places in the US where all the homes are part
of an 'association', and that association makes rules everyone
has to follow. The members are elected from the owners of the
homes, renters have no say in things at all, owners have little
say if they aren't on the board.

Personally, I've never lived in such a place, and wouldn't,
but I've known people who have.

Some loved it, others not so much.

I don't like the idea that if you own your own house you can't have as many
cats as you want. In theory, I can keep pigs here, my deeds tell me so. I
don't. But I could.
There's room for them, but I'm a bit scared of them. My husband had a
friend that got his thigh muscle ripped out by a pig.
There is nothing to stop me having a multitude of cats. Except the vet
bills. I could afford two and I am still waiting for another to arrive.
Boyfie says No. Absolutely Not. Sharing his meowmie is not an option.

In some places there are laws against having more than a certain number of
pets. In San Francisco, you can't have more than 4 pets per dwelling. Doesn't
matter whether you rent or own, and it has nothing to do with what landlords
want. It's a city law. Of course, something like that is hard to enforce,
and a lot of people have way more than 4 pets, and nobody ever finds out.

A friend of mine had about 15 cats in her very large apartment, plus
another 10 ferals she was feeding in the back yard. It was all going OK
until her relationship with her boyfriend, who was living with her,
went sour and she tried to get him to move out. He was a real jerk and
refused to leave, and then he threatened to call the city and report her
for having too many pets, if she didn't stop trying to kick him out. It
was horrible - if he'd gone through with that, those cats would probably
have been euthanized. Ass.

--
Joyce

The heck with top and bottom -- I want relationships with strangeness
and charm.

For example, we have laws about how animals should be killed for meat but
due to the some peoples' religions they are allowed to do it as they wish
and inflict suffering on the animals. I do believe that people should be
able to follow what religion they want but they should not be allowed to
inflict cruelty. I realise this may upset some people.

It's racist crap propagated by bigots who neither know nor want
to know how kosher and halal slaughter are done. This has been
a bugaboo exploited by neo-Nazis in the UK for most of my lifetime.
They don't care about animals, they just want to see Jews and Muslims
dead.

(I have worked in a Christian-style slaughterhouse and seen halal
slaughter extremely close up - I know what I'm talking about).

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