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Ping Kilikini
I hope you don't mind, but I posted the email about your problem on
alt.support.cancer a group that has been great about giving me support and information. I'm hoping that they have some sort of idea that can help you. Have you tried medicaid? If you don't receive Social Security, medicare is not going to do much for you. The owners are purring hard for you and I'm thinking healthy thoughts and wishes for you to get the treatment you need fastest and that you are in better shape than you think. Pam S. who hopes that Kili will check out alt.support.cancer and alt.support.breastcancer out |
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Ping Kilikini
"Tanada" wrote in message ink.net... I hope you don't mind, but I posted the email about your problem on alt.support.cancer a group that has been great about giving me support and information. I'm hoping that they have some sort of idea that can help you. Have you tried medicaid? If you don't receive Social Security, medicare is not going to do much for you. The owners are purring hard for you and I'm thinking healthy thoughts and wishes for you to get the treatment you need fastest and that you are in better shape than you think. Pam S. who hopes that Kili will check out alt.support.cancer and alt.support.breastcancer out I am so appalled by kili's situation. It's absolutely disgusting that there are doctors out there who could help her but choose not to because she cannot pay "up front." They deserve to rot in hell. Choosing to be a doctor means you want to help sick people. doesn't it? Not to line your pocket so you can have have posh houses and cars. Ahhh, don't start me on this. Tweed |
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Christina Websell wrote:
"Tanada" wrote in message ink.net... I hope you don't mind, but I posted the email about your problem on alt.support.cancer a group that has been great about giving me support and information. I'm hoping that they have some sort of idea that can help you. Have you tried medicaid? If you don't receive Social Security, medicare is not going to do much for you. The owners are purring hard for you and I'm thinking healthy thoughts and wishes for you to get the treatment you need fastest and that you are in better shape than you think. Pam S. who hopes that Kili will check out alt.support.cancer and alt.support.breastcancer out I am so appalled by kili's situation. It's absolutely disgusting that there are doctors out there who could help her but choose not to because she cannot pay "up front." They deserve to rot in hell. Choosing to be a doctor means you want to help sick people. doesn't it? Not to line your pocket so you can have have posh houses and cars. Ahhh, don't start me on this. Tweed I don't think it's up to the doctors themselves. They are employed by the hospital, after all. And if it's the hospital's policy to demand money up front for surgeries, there's probably not much an individual doctor can do about that. It's not like they could just perform the surgery in their own home in the evening or something. The whole situation sickens me. From what I gather, Kili doesn't qualify for Medicare because she doesn't have children. That is disgusting. So you have to be a breeding pod in order to get lifesaving breast cancer sugery?!?! The state of affairs in the US is frightening. Truly. You couldn't *pay* me to live there. -- Britta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album |
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Kili, I am so sorry and want you to know that along with everyone else, I am sending prayers on your behalf. Prayers for your recovery and also to get through the red tape that you can start treatment and healing soon Sherry |
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"badwilson" wrote in message ... Christina Websell wrote: "Tanada" wrote in message ink.net... I hope you don't mind, but I posted the email about your problem on alt.support.cancer a group that has been great about giving me support and information. I'm hoping that they have some sort of idea that can help you. Have you tried medicaid? If you don't receive Social Security, medicare is not going to do much for you. The owners are purring hard for you and I'm thinking healthy thoughts and wishes for you to get the treatment you need fastest and that you are in better shape than you think. Pam S. who hopes that Kili will check out alt.support.cancer and alt.support.breastcancer out I am so appalled by kili's situation. It's absolutely disgusting that there are doctors out there who could help her but choose not to because she cannot pay "up front." They deserve to rot in hell. Choosing to be a doctor means you want to help sick people. doesn't it? Not to line your pocket so you can have have posh houses and cars. Ahhh, don't start me on this. Tweed I don't think it's up to the doctors themselves. They are employed by the hospital, after all. And if it's the hospital's policy to demand money up front for surgeries, there's probably not much an individual doctor can do about that. It's not like they could just perform the surgery in their own home in the evening or something. The whole situation sickens me. From what I gather, Kili doesn't qualify for Medicare because she doesn't have children. That is disgusting. So you have to be a breeding pod in order to get lifesaving breast cancer sugery?!?! The state of affairs in the US is frightening. Truly. You couldn't *pay* me to live there. -- Britta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album I also gind the medical situation in the U.S. frightening, although I am fortunate to have good insurance. Many people seem to think that everyone should be responsible for his or her insurance, but those people always seem to be the ones who can *afford* it. We have many people who are the working poor -- they work at full-time jobs (often very arduous) but are not covered by insurance. Employers often keep employees just slightly *under* "full-time specifically so that benefits do not have to be paid. More and more people who are not "poor" are now beginnign to see these problems as more employers either drop insurance coverage or raise the premiums that employees must pay. There are also those who cannot get insurance because companies generally will not cover pre-existing conditions. It is truly frightening -- and should be a national scandal -- to think of the number of people who are unable to get insurance. At the same time, I think there is some confusion in this thread. There is a difference between Medicare and Medicaid. I believe *children* of a deceased parent (and the surviving spouse, under certain circumstances) are eligible for Medicare. Other than that, Medicare is based on a person's age and work history. Medicare basically applies to those over age 65 and for some very limited medical care for others (I believe permanent kidney failure is covered). Medicaid and other forms of public assistance are means-tested, and people below certain income levels are eligible for Medicaid. The combination leaves a large number of people completely without medical resources. It is a hard-hearted policy, and I think it is unforgivable. MaryL |
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Ping Kilikini
"Tanada" wrote in message ink.net... I hope you don't mind, but I posted the email about your problem on alt.support.cancer a group that has been great about giving me support and information. I'm hoping that they have some sort of idea that can help you. Have you tried medicaid? If you don't receive Social Security, medicare is not going to do much for you. The owners are purring hard for you and I'm thinking healthy thoughts and wishes for you to get the treatment you need fastest and that you are in better shape than you think. Pam S. who hopes that Kili will check out alt.support.cancer and alt.support.breastcancer out I do lurk and post on alt.support.cancer breast and people there have been really helpful with telling me what to expect when I do eventually get treatment. It's a great group. kili |
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kilikini wrote:
I do lurk and post on alt.support.cancer breast and people there have been really helpful with telling me what to expect when I do eventually get treatment. It's a great group. We're sending you lots and lots of healing purrs. -- Victor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam he Email me he |
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Christina Websell wrote: I am so appalled by kili's situation. It's absolutely disgusting that there are doctors out there who could help her but choose not to because she cannot pay "up front." They deserve to rot in hell. Choosing to be a doctor means you want to help sick people. doesn't it? Not to line your pocket so you can have have posh houses and cars. Ahhh, don't start me on this. I'm inclined to agree, although in the U.S. I blame the system as much as the doctors. We are the only civlised country in the world that does not provide some sort of universal health care to all our citizens! Tweed |
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Ping Kilikini
badwilson wrote: I don't think it's up to the doctors themselves. They are employed by the hospital, after all. Not exactly. Unless they are still "residents", they are "self-employed", and pay dues to be on a hospital's staff. But of course they do not set the hospital's charges (which include anesthesiology, use of operating and treatment rooms, nursing care, etc.). However, I think they set their own fees for treatment, even if they are in a practice with other doctors. I know the partner of my gynecology surgeon did not accept Medicare patients, but he did. If they do, they must accept whatever fee Medicare approves as their entire fee, although if the "approved" amount is more than Medicare actually pays, the patient is responsible for the balance. And if it's the hospital's policy to demand money up front for surgeries, there's probably not much an individual doctor can do about that. It's not like they could just perform the surgery in their own home in the evening or something. The whole situation sickens me. From what I gather, Kili doesn't qualify for Medicare because she doesn't have children. I think you are confusing "Medicare" with "Medicaid". "Medicare" is available to anyone over sixty-five who has paid Social Security taxes (which are taxes deducted from their wages). Although a doctor or hospital is not REQUIRED to accept Medicare patients, most of them do, in which case they bill Medicare, who in turn bills either the patient or the patient's supplementary insurance provider (if there is one). SFAIK, there's no "up front" about it, in that case. "Medicaid" on the other hand, is administered as part of the state's "welfare" system, so the rules may vary from state to state. What is considered "below poverty level" income in one state may not qualify as such in another, and of course other rules may differ, too. |
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MaryL wrote: I also find the medical situation in the U.S. frightening, although I am fortunate to have good insurance. Many people seem to think that everyone should be responsible for his or her insurance, but those people always seem to be the ones who can *afford* it. I think John Kerry had the right idea - simply provide the same kind of coverage for tax-paying citizens as the government does to members of Congress! (After all, WE'RE the ones who pay for all those benefits, plus their inflated salaries.) |
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