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I'd like to challenge their assumptions that animals are inferior to
humans. (Maybe they don't realize that humans are also animals, and therefore, all people would be illegally named? ) The original idea is from a Brazilian congressman. A school Nathan went to had a Brazilian nun who taught religion. Lovely lady, but some interesting ideas ;-) In one lesson she asked the kids to write down the names of five family members who loved them. Nathan wrote "Mum, Dad, Waffles, Francis, Marble" The school has a Sister Francis. The Brazilian nun saw Nathan's writing and said, "Nathan! you do not say Francis, it is Sister Francis!" Nathan responded by saying that Francis was his cat, as is Waffles & Marble. The nun was most confused - "How can animals be your family?" she said. Nathan insisted that Waffles, Francis and Marble are indeed his family, and loved members at that. The Brazilian nun often reminds me of this tale, as she then goes on to say that in Brazil, this would be seen as most odd, as animals are not looked upon in this way, they are just animals. My response was that animals are god's creatures, and as such, we should respect them and if a child can learn to love and respect animals, that child will learn to love & respect people, as the animals respond to be treated with kindness. This seemed to be a reason for much deep thought. So much so that on a holiday back in Brazil, she retold the story at a mass in her church. Different culture, different attitudes methinks. Cheers, helen s --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove fame & fortune **$om $ --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off-- |
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I'd like to challenge their assumptions that animals are inferior to
humans. (Maybe they don't realize that humans are also animals, and therefore, all people would be illegally named? ) The original idea is from a Brazilian congressman. A school Nathan went to had a Brazilian nun who taught religion. Lovely lady, but some interesting ideas ;-) In one lesson she asked the kids to write down the names of five family members who loved them. Nathan wrote "Mum, Dad, Waffles, Francis, Marble" The school has a Sister Francis. The Brazilian nun saw Nathan's writing and said, "Nathan! you do not say Francis, it is Sister Francis!" Nathan responded by saying that Francis was his cat, as is Waffles & Marble. The nun was most confused - "How can animals be your family?" she said. Nathan insisted that Waffles, Francis and Marble are indeed his family, and loved members at that. The Brazilian nun often reminds me of this tale, as she then goes on to say that in Brazil, this would be seen as most odd, as animals are not looked upon in this way, they are just animals. My response was that animals are god's creatures, and as such, we should respect them and if a child can learn to love and respect animals, that child will learn to love & respect people, as the animals respond to be treated with kindness. This seemed to be a reason for much deep thought. So much so that on a holiday back in Brazil, she retold the story at a mass in her church. Different culture, different attitudes methinks. Cheers, helen s --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove fame & fortune **$om $ --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off-- |
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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:
In one lesson she asked the kids to write down the names of five family members who loved them. Nathan wrote "Mum, Dad, Waffles, Francis, Marble" The school has a Sister Francis. The Brazilian nun saw Nathan's writing and said, "Nathan! you do not say Francis, it is Sister Francis!" Oddly, she had no comment about the other names in Nathan's list. I wonder who she thought "Waffles" and "Marble" were?? Nathan's brother and/or sister, LOL? (Well, that congressman didn't say anything about not giving animal names to children! ) I suppose that if this nun were new to the UK and not familiar with English names, that might explain the oversight. The Brazilian nun often reminds me of this tale, as she then goes on to say that in Brazil, this would be seen as most odd, as animals are not looked upon in this way, they are just animals. I think Britta has posted about this, too - that the Thais she meets think it's odd how much she and Dennis adore Vino. This seemed to be a reason for much deep thought. So much so that on a holiday back in Brazil, she retold the story at a mass in her church. That's wonderful! You did a great thing, Helen. Joyce |
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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:
In one lesson she asked the kids to write down the names of five family members who loved them. Nathan wrote "Mum, Dad, Waffles, Francis, Marble" The school has a Sister Francis. The Brazilian nun saw Nathan's writing and said, "Nathan! you do not say Francis, it is Sister Francis!" Oddly, she had no comment about the other names in Nathan's list. I wonder who she thought "Waffles" and "Marble" were?? Nathan's brother and/or sister, LOL? (Well, that congressman didn't say anything about not giving animal names to children! ) I suppose that if this nun were new to the UK and not familiar with English names, that might explain the oversight. The Brazilian nun often reminds me of this tale, as she then goes on to say that in Brazil, this would be seen as most odd, as animals are not looked upon in this way, they are just animals. I think Britta has posted about this, too - that the Thais she meets think it's odd how much she and Dennis adore Vino. This seemed to be a reason for much deep thought. So much so that on a holiday back in Brazil, she retold the story at a mass in her church. That's wonderful! You did a great thing, Helen. Joyce |
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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:
In one lesson she asked the kids to write down the names of five family members who loved them. Nathan wrote "Mum, Dad, Waffles, Francis, Marble" The school has a Sister Francis. The Brazilian nun saw Nathan's writing and said, "Nathan! you do not say Francis, it is Sister Francis!" Oddly, she had no comment about the other names in Nathan's list. I wonder who she thought "Waffles" and "Marble" were?? Nathan's brother and/or sister, LOL? (Well, that congressman didn't say anything about not giving animal names to children! ) I suppose that if this nun were new to the UK and not familiar with English names, that might explain the oversight. The Brazilian nun often reminds me of this tale, as she then goes on to say that in Brazil, this would be seen as most odd, as animals are not looked upon in this way, they are just animals. I think Britta has posted about this, too - that the Thais she meets think it's odd how much she and Dennis adore Vino. This seemed to be a reason for much deep thought. So much so that on a holiday back in Brazil, she retold the story at a mass in her church. That's wonderful! You did a great thing, Helen. Joyce |
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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:
confused - "How can animals be your family?" she said. Nathan insisted that Waffles, Francis and Marble are indeed his family, and loved members at that. You are doing a wonderful job raising Nathan! He sounds like such a good human being. The Brazilian nun often reminds me of this tale, as she then goes on to say that in Brazil, this would be seen as most odd, as animals are not looked upon in this way, they are just animals. My response was that animals are god's That is very common in many countries, unfortunately. In Mexico they make fun at all the things americans do to pamper their pets. My mom still argues with me when she mentions that I don't have children and I reply saying that I have seven. -- Victor Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam he Email me he |
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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:
confused - "How can animals be your family?" she said. Nathan insisted that Waffles, Francis and Marble are indeed his family, and loved members at that. You are doing a wonderful job raising Nathan! He sounds like such a good human being. The Brazilian nun often reminds me of this tale, as she then goes on to say that in Brazil, this would be seen as most odd, as animals are not looked upon in this way, they are just animals. My response was that animals are god's That is very common in many countries, unfortunately. In Mexico they make fun at all the things americans do to pamper their pets. My mom still argues with me when she mentions that I don't have children and I reply saying that I have seven. -- Victor Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam he Email me he |
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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:
confused - "How can animals be your family?" she said. Nathan insisted that Waffles, Francis and Marble are indeed his family, and loved members at that. You are doing a wonderful job raising Nathan! He sounds like such a good human being. The Brazilian nun often reminds me of this tale, as she then goes on to say that in Brazil, this would be seen as most odd, as animals are not looked upon in this way, they are just animals. My response was that animals are god's That is very common in many countries, unfortunately. In Mexico they make fun at all the things americans do to pamper their pets. My mom still argues with me when she mentions that I don't have children and I reply saying that I have seven. -- Victor Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam he Email me he |
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... Jeanne Hedge wrote: Federal congressman Reinaldo Santos e Silva proposed the law after psychologists suggested that some children may get depressed when they learn they share their first name with someone's pet Give me a break!!! What would be depressing about that? I would have found it *funny* to meet a cat or dog named Joyce. "Names have importance," said Alves. The congressman "wants to challenge people's assumptions that it's acceptable to give animals human names," she said. I'd like to challenge their assumptions that animals are inferior to humans. (Maybe they don't realize that humans are also animals, and therefore, all people would be illegally named? ) Alves admitted the law's chances of passage were slim but said Silva hoped the bill would call attention to his other efforts to protect animals. His "other" efforts to protect animals? Implying that the ban-human- names idea has something to do with protecting animals? Joyce I may have missed some of this thread, but if some politico has proposed a law banning people from naming animals after humans, I'd be in trouble if I lived in the U.S. and the law were enacted! When we acquired one of our kitties we asked the little girl next door (and her mom) if we could name our new arrival after her. The little girl was delighted, and agreed immediately, as did her parent. Mind you, the entire family are ailurophiles so we weren't surprised at their reaction! |
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... Jeanne Hedge wrote: Federal congressman Reinaldo Santos e Silva proposed the law after psychologists suggested that some children may get depressed when they learn they share their first name with someone's pet Give me a break!!! What would be depressing about that? I would have found it *funny* to meet a cat or dog named Joyce. "Names have importance," said Alves. The congressman "wants to challenge people's assumptions that it's acceptable to give animals human names," she said. I'd like to challenge their assumptions that animals are inferior to humans. (Maybe they don't realize that humans are also animals, and therefore, all people would be illegally named? ) Alves admitted the law's chances of passage were slim but said Silva hoped the bill would call attention to his other efforts to protect animals. His "other" efforts to protect animals? Implying that the ban-human- names idea has something to do with protecting animals? Joyce I may have missed some of this thread, but if some politico has proposed a law banning people from naming animals after humans, I'd be in trouble if I lived in the U.S. and the law were enacted! When we acquired one of our kitties we asked the little girl next door (and her mom) if we could name our new arrival after her. The little girl was delighted, and agreed immediately, as did her parent. Mind you, the entire family are ailurophiles so we weren't surprised at their reaction! |
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