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Embarrassing Moment (WAS: Cussing)
"MLB" wrote in message
... jmcquown wrote: I wll relate a very embarrassing (at the time) incident that happened when I was in the 2nd grade. I was seven years old. They had a reading circle at school. We all sat on the floor and the teacher read a book to us. It had been drilled and drilled into my head, follow the teachers instructions. Well, she insisted we all be completely silent while she read us a book. I had to go to the bathroom. The toilet. Whatever you want to call it. (laugh) I was told never to interrupt the teacher during the reading circle. I really, really had to pee. (Is that a cuss word? LOL) But I followed her instructions like a good little soldier... NEVER interrupt the teacher, don't even raise your hand. Well, my bladder was full and I just couldn't hold it anymore. So it let go. I was 7, I didn't have much choice. I was taken to the principals office for a change of clothes and underwear and they called my mother to pick me up. Afterwards the teacher asked me, "Why didn't you TELL me you had to go to the bathroom?" Because YOU told us NEVER to interrupt or even raise our hands during reading hour! So much for telling kids how to "conduct" themselves in class. LOL Jill I remember this happening to two of my schoolmates in about the third or fourth grade. Johnny was a skinny little boy. He kept raising his hand, which the teacher ignored until she made him get up in front of the class to read -- where he let it "GO". He started to cry then she dismissed him. The other was Josephine, a pretty little Italian girl. She kept raising her hand and was ignored -- so she let it go as she sat there. At this point the teacher told her she could leave. I also remember in the 7th grade our teacher gave instructions of a similar nature. Being defiant, I got up and just left (didn't really have to). When I returned, the teacher didn't say a word. MLB I don't understand why some teachers feel the need to exercise such *control* over children. Sure, there are some who will take advantage to get out of doing things. But honestly, I think a lot of teachers are just control freaks. "The kids can't do anything unless I say they can" mentality. I was extremely humiliated by this incident in front of my classmates. All because we weren't allowed to interrupt the teacher. Heh. Jill |
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Cussing
"Baird Stafford" wrote in message
In article , "Yowie" wrote: snip Perhaps if I was a generation older, I might also object to the the word "gay" which is now used as a sysnonym for "homosexual". I can understand the reasons why another word had to be found, and why the word "gay" was a good choice, but by doing so, it robbed the English language of the previous meaning of "gay", "bright, cheery, joyful, full of energy" and no replacement with that *exact* meaning has been found. Actually, that euphemism has been traced to around the 1890s, having originated in Jolly Old - or so I understand. snip Baird who thought 1940s but was informed he was mistaken.... I know its had a long history, but it hadn't got into common usage until far more recently, maybe the late 60's? "Gay" has always meant "homosexual" to me; I'm 40. When does a euphemism stop being a euphemism and start being a synonym? To me, 'gay' and 'homosexual' can be used interchangably, so I don't see 'gay' as a euphemism. "Bats for the other side" and "scores home goals" (and the like) are, but to my ears "gay" isn't attempting to hide anything and therefore a synonym not a euphemism. YMMV. If I was a generation younger, "gay" would have another common meaning - "stupid, boring, uncool, etc etc". Whilst I know thats how younger folks use the word, I don't. Yowie -- If you're paddling upstream in a canoe and a wheel falls off, how many pancakes can you fit in a doghouse? None, icecream doesn't have bones. |
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Cussing
On Sep 22, 4:40*pm, "Yowie" wrote:
"Baird Stafford" wrote in message In article , "Yowie" wrote: snip Perhaps if I was a generation older, I might also object to the the word "gay" which is now used as a sysnonym for "homosexual". I can understand the reasons why another word had to be found, and why the word "gay" was a good choice, but by doing so, it robbed the English language of the previous meaning of "gay", "bright, cheery, joyful, full of energy" and no replacement with that *exact* meaning has been found. Actually, that euphemism has been traced to around the 1890s, having originated in Jolly Old - or so I understand. snip Baird who thought 1940s but was informed he was mistaken.... I know its had a long history, but it hadn't got into common usage until far more recently, maybe the late 60's? "Gay" has always meant "homosexual" to me; I'm 40. When does a euphemism stop being a euphemism and start being a synonym? To me, 'gay' and 'homosexual' can be used interchangably, so I don't see 'gay' as a euphemism. "Bats for the other side" and "scores home goals" (and the like) are, but to my ears "gay" isn't attempting to hide anything and therefore a synonym not a euphemism. YMMV. If I was a generation younger, "gay" would have another common meaning - "stupid, boring, uncool, etc etc". Whilst I know thats how younger folks use the word, I don't. Yowie -- If you're paddling upstream in a canoe and a wheel falls off, how many pancakes can you fit in a doghouse? None, icecream doesn't have bones.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - When I was a kid (elementary age), "gay" meant happy, lighthearted. My best friend's name was even Gay. A couple of generations prior, there's even a movie titled "Let Us Be Gay". Today that would conjure up a whole different thing! I suppose that's a good example how a definition can be completely hijacked over the years. Sherry |
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Embarrassing Moment (WAS: Cussing)
On 22 Sep, 23:12, "Yowie" wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message I still haven't forgiven him for that deep humiliation, and probably never will. Yowie What an absolute prat. I hope it haunts him still, and that he never did it again to another student. |
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Cussing
"Jofirey" wrote in news:7hsp36F2te2u4U1
@mid.individual.net: Nope, golly and gosh are just cleaned up ways of saying God according to many. And cleaned up still doesn't sit right with their reading of the ten commandments. That was the interpretation at the fundy school I went to. All cussing is a form of exclamation. It's just a question of degree. |
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Cussing (was: Human Litterboxes)
"jmcquown" wrote in
: That's the only reason I ever write "TP" on my shopping list. Why write out "toilet paper" when I know what TP is? I write PT when I need to buy paper towels I buy those so rarely that that shortcut never occurred to me! OTOH, I prefer the little cube-shaped facial tissue boxes, and my mom has me get her the conventional oblong boxes. So when I buy for me, I put "Kleenex^3" (superscript 3, ie. cubed) on the list. |
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Cussing
In ,
ScratchMonkey typed: "Jofirey" wrote in news:7hsp36F2te2u4U1 @mid.individual.net: Nope, golly and gosh are just cleaned up ways of saying God according to many. And cleaned up still doesn't sit right with their reading of the ten commandments. That was the interpretation at the fundy school I went to. All cussing is a form of exclamation. It's just a question of degree. On of my favourite cussing expressions is "F*ck me X" where X can equal any number of highly descriptive and most liekly anatomically impossible feats. X might, for example, be 'sideways with a giant banana' or 'with a double-fisted ham sandwich" or whatever the swearer can come up with on the spot. It leads to very creative swearing :-) Yowie |
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Cussing
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:40:10 +1000, "Yowie"
wrote: I know its had a long history, but it hadn't got into common usage until far more recently, maybe the late 60's? "Gay" has always meant "homosexual" to me; I'm 40. The first use of gay in popular media that I know about was in "Bringing Up Baby" (1938) with Cary Grant and Katharine Hepburn. Cary Grant as David Huxley, dressed in a frilly robe: Because I just went gay all of a sudden! Bud |
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Human Litterboxes (was Cat Using toilet and toilet paper)
Yowie wrote:
In , about toilets To be fair, its often the only place in the house where you can remained 'unbothered' for a few moments. Unless you have cats or young kids, of course. It seems impossible for Boyfie not to "help" me if I go to the bathroom. I swear he has some sort of radar fitted to the toilet seat that alerts him even if he's asleep or outside. He rushes up the stairs, enters the bathroom and rubs himself around my legs whilst I am seated like he cannot believe I can manage on my own without his encouragement and support ;-) You have to love him, he's been supporting me on my toilet duties for some time and now he's hunting for me - he must think I'm a bit useless in the caring-for-myself department. He's such a gentleman cat. So kind to his meowmie. If he'd been human he'd have been one of those Edwardian gentlemen who always walked nearest to the road to prevent anything dire happening to their female companions from those new-fangled cars. Tweed |
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Cussing
MLB wrote:
I remember my boss told me once about how he tried to teach his boys not to use swear words. He had them go out on garbage day and listen "to those guys" talk. MLB And how did *that* work? Except to teach them more swear words that they knew already? Tweed |
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