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"Cathy Friedmann" wrote in message ... "Mary" wrote in message . com... "Laura R." wrote in message .. . circa 22 Feb 2004 22:13:10 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, PawsForThought ) said, Hmmm, well, a) I don't think "eat ****" is all that awful of a thing to say. And besides sometimes it is just the most appropriate response. It *was* the most appropriate response. I remember Steve Crane was saying that ingredients don't matter in pet food. I said something like "why don't you eat **** then since ingredients don't matter." It must have been too much for Goobie to handle, LOL That's 'cause he only has one hand free... oooooo low five, low five! Was that a pun? ;-Þ Cathy -- An unintentional one, but hey! |
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"Cathy Friedmann" wrote in message ... "Mary" wrote in message . com... "Laura R." wrote in message .. . circa 22 Feb 2004 22:13:10 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, PawsForThought ) said, Hmmm, well, a) I don't think "eat ****" is all that awful of a thing to say. And besides sometimes it is just the most appropriate response. It *was* the most appropriate response. I remember Steve Crane was saying that ingredients don't matter in pet food. I said something like "why don't you eat **** then since ingredients don't matter." It must have been too much for Goobie to handle, LOL That's 'cause he only has one hand free... oooooo low five, low five! Was that a pun? ;-Þ Cathy -- An unintentional one, but hey! |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:39:12 -0500, "Phil P."
wrote: Breeders claim that only 5-10% of the pet cats in the US are pedigrees. That translates into about 3.5-7 million cats - The lower number is about the number of cats killed each year in the nation's kill-shelters. Actually, the figure is 6% of the population of OWNED cats, which is approximately 3.8% of the cat population -- around 2.6 million. Purebred cats are more likely to be indoor only cats, and more likely to be neutered or spayed. However, roaming, free-breeding cats make up 35.7% of the entire cat population -- IMO, that is where the problem lies. cite: http://www.fanciers.com/npa/sdanalysis.html All the cat registry organizations combined don't register 3 mllion new pedigrees a year so I don't know how many cats breeders actually contribute to the cat overpopulation but its clear that they do contribute to the problem - hobby breeders less so than commercial and backyard breeders because many hobby breeders only "breed to order" rather than churn out litters one after the other. Remember that indoor-only cats tend to live longer than free-roaming cats. For purebreds to continue to make up 6% of the owned population, breeders could not churn out 2.6 million cats per year. I'd be extremely surprised if breeders registered half a million cats per year -- I'll send some emails out to the registries and see if I can get some information regarding total number of cats registered last year in each of the major registries. Orchid See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:39:12 -0500, "Phil P."
wrote: Breeders claim that only 5-10% of the pet cats in the US are pedigrees. That translates into about 3.5-7 million cats - The lower number is about the number of cats killed each year in the nation's kill-shelters. Actually, the figure is 6% of the population of OWNED cats, which is approximately 3.8% of the cat population -- around 2.6 million. Purebred cats are more likely to be indoor only cats, and more likely to be neutered or spayed. However, roaming, free-breeding cats make up 35.7% of the entire cat population -- IMO, that is where the problem lies. cite: http://www.fanciers.com/npa/sdanalysis.html All the cat registry organizations combined don't register 3 mllion new pedigrees a year so I don't know how many cats breeders actually contribute to the cat overpopulation but its clear that they do contribute to the problem - hobby breeders less so than commercial and backyard breeders because many hobby breeders only "breed to order" rather than churn out litters one after the other. Remember that indoor-only cats tend to live longer than free-roaming cats. For purebreds to continue to make up 6% of the owned population, breeders could not churn out 2.6 million cats per year. I'd be extremely surprised if breeders registered half a million cats per year -- I'll send some emails out to the registries and see if I can get some information regarding total number of cats registered last year in each of the major registries. Orchid See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid |
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LOL you really ARE a mental case. I thought they were being a bit harsh on
you, Now I see they were right. Of course I talk about what interests me, as you, and everyone else on the lists do. It's WHY we're here, you moron. It's all I was doing. To talk about the issues (cat or otherwise) someone posts about. Granted it IS a cat group, but heck, people say some funny things Sometimes they mean to, cus they have a great wit - you know who you are G_ and sometimes they just say things cus they.. well... now that I think about it, I guess cus well.. dang, I am stumped. Help me out, why DO you say things again? LOL Oh yeah, it all goes back to Lauren and Science Diet.. I guess I should pay attention. Or... ignore ya? Yeah. Pull your head out. But whether you do or don't? Just leave me out of you silly little fantasies. Just shut up Goober. You make me tired. |
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LOL you really ARE a mental case. I thought they were being a bit harsh on
you, Now I see they were right. Of course I talk about what interests me, as you, and everyone else on the lists do. It's WHY we're here, you moron. It's all I was doing. To talk about the issues (cat or otherwise) someone posts about. Granted it IS a cat group, but heck, people say some funny things Sometimes they mean to, cus they have a great wit - you know who you are G_ and sometimes they just say things cus they.. well... now that I think about it, I guess cus well.. dang, I am stumped. Help me out, why DO you say things again? LOL Oh yeah, it all goes back to Lauren and Science Diet.. I guess I should pay attention. Or... ignore ya? Yeah. Pull your head out. But whether you do or don't? Just leave me out of you silly little fantasies. Just shut up Goober. You make me tired. |
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"Orchid" wrote in message ... On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:39:12 -0500, "Phil P." wrote: Breeders claim that only 5-10% of the pet cats in the US are pedigrees. That translates into about 3.5-7 million cats - The lower number is about the number of cats killed each year in the nation's kill-shelters. Actually, the figure is 6% of the population of OWNED cats, which is approximately 3.8% of the cat population -- around 2.6 million. I've read a lot of conflicting data but I think the CFA is probably reliable - although they do tend to put their own spin on things occasionally. The there are a lot of studies about the pet population and distribution as well as shelter studies and stastistics published in the Journal of Applied Animal Welfare Science that's very reliable. We participated in a few. Purebred cats are more likely to be indoor only cats, and more likely to be neutered or spayed. True. But each one that's bred still reduces the number of available homes for cats already in shelters with the clock ticking. However, roaming, free-breeding cats make up 35.7% of the entire cat population -- IMO, that is where the problem lies. The biggesr part of the problem. Absolutely. The first step towards reducing the overpopulation problem is dispelling the 6 month neuter policy. Females can go into heat at *4* months. One study showed 50% of adopted cats had a litter before they were spayed even though the owners intended to spay their cats at the traditional 6 months. The "oops" litters are another big part of the problem. I'd like to see a mandatory neuter-before-adoption policy for shelters and pet stores - we have one. With the safety of early age neutering well established with over 30 years of studies and clinical experience, and vet universites now teaching the procedure, an NBA policy should be mandatory. This would eliminate the 'opps" litters (about 5 kittens/cat plus kittens from their offspring) and litters caused by people who don't honor their (unenforceable) contracts for one reason or another. Unfortunately, EAN is still questioned by many "old school" vets because of their unfamiliarity with surgery and anesthesia on young kittens despite all the benefits. cite: http://www.fanciers.com/npa/sdanalysis.html All the cat registry organizations combined don't register 3 mllion new pedigrees a year so I don't know how many cats breeders actually contribute to the cat overpopulation but its clear that they do contribute to the problem - hobby breeders less so than commercial and backyard breeders because many hobby breeders only "breed to order" rather than churn out litters one after the other. Remember that indoor-only cats tend to live longer than free-roaming cats. For purebreds to continue to make up 6% of the owned population, breeders could not churn out 2.6 million cats per year. I'd be extremely surprised if breeders registered half a million cats per year -- I'll send some emails out to the registries and see if I can get some information regarding total number of cats registered last year in each of the major registries. I have all kinds of conflicting data - but I'd still like to know. Perhaps I wouldn't be so hard on them. Phil |
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