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Old June 12th 04, 07:22 AM
Mary
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"Cathy Friedmann" wrote

I'm having difficulty deciding if you're for real (in which case, really
lousy advice), or if you're a troll, in the guise of a serious poster.


I'm getting to the point that I don't care. Moron, troll, what's the
difference?


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Old June 12th 04, 07:22 AM
Mary
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"Cathy Friedmann" wrote

I'm having difficulty deciding if you're for real (in which case, really
lousy advice), or if you're a troll, in the guise of a serious poster.


I'm getting to the point that I don't care. Moron, troll, what's the
difference?


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Old June 12th 04, 07:22 AM
Mary
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"Cathy Friedmann" wrote

I'm having difficulty deciding if you're for real (in which case, really
lousy advice), or if you're a troll, in the guise of a serious poster.


I'm getting to the point that I don't care. Moron, troll, what's the
difference?


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Old June 13th 04, 03:36 AM
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Gertrude wrote:
In that case you must get tougher; try
adding a *very small* measure of shaking
or tossing, or grabbing-lifting by some
other more sensitive body part (ears, tail,
etc.).


I'm aghast that you think "shaking
or tossing, or grabbing-lifting by some
other more sensitive body part (ears, tail,
etc.)" is an appropriate way to treat a cat and is good advice. I can
only assume that you have a sadistic side that controls your thoughts
and actions.

The methods you describe are unnecessary and abusive. Negative
reinforcement is a lousy concept that rarely works, and when it does the
response is based on fear and/or pain rather than a desire to exhibit
good behavior. Positive reinforcement and distraction techniques are
much more effective. Anyone that would recommend methods that involve
inflicting physical pain, hostility and fear, especially on a cat that
is about 1/15th the size of a human or smaller, is nothing short of an
animal abuser. You included.


Understand that if you have a farm like mine in Kentucky with 22 cats then
you handle them differently than one does if only a single cat is kept in a
NYC apartment. It's just not the same.


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Old June 13th 04, 03:36 AM
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wrote in message
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Gertrude wrote:
In that case you must get tougher; try
adding a *very small* measure of shaking
or tossing, or grabbing-lifting by some
other more sensitive body part (ears, tail,
etc.).


I'm aghast that you think "shaking
or tossing, or grabbing-lifting by some
other more sensitive body part (ears, tail,
etc.)" is an appropriate way to treat a cat and is good advice. I can
only assume that you have a sadistic side that controls your thoughts
and actions.

The methods you describe are unnecessary and abusive. Negative
reinforcement is a lousy concept that rarely works, and when it does the
response is based on fear and/or pain rather than a desire to exhibit
good behavior. Positive reinforcement and distraction techniques are
much more effective. Anyone that would recommend methods that involve
inflicting physical pain, hostility and fear, especially on a cat that
is about 1/15th the size of a human or smaller, is nothing short of an
animal abuser. You included.


Understand that if you have a farm like mine in Kentucky with 22 cats then
you handle them differently than one does if only a single cat is kept in a
NYC apartment. It's just not the same.


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Old June 13th 04, 03:36 AM
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wrote in message
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Gertrude wrote:
In that case you must get tougher; try
adding a *very small* measure of shaking
or tossing, or grabbing-lifting by some
other more sensitive body part (ears, tail,
etc.).


I'm aghast that you think "shaking
or tossing, or grabbing-lifting by some
other more sensitive body part (ears, tail,
etc.)" is an appropriate way to treat a cat and is good advice. I can
only assume that you have a sadistic side that controls your thoughts
and actions.

The methods you describe are unnecessary and abusive. Negative
reinforcement is a lousy concept that rarely works, and when it does the
response is based on fear and/or pain rather than a desire to exhibit
good behavior. Positive reinforcement and distraction techniques are
much more effective. Anyone that would recommend methods that involve
inflicting physical pain, hostility and fear, especially on a cat that
is about 1/15th the size of a human or smaller, is nothing short of an
animal abuser. You included.


Understand that if you have a farm like mine in Kentucky with 22 cats then
you handle them differently than one does if only a single cat is kept in a
NYC apartment. It's just not the same.


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Old June 13th 04, 03:42 AM
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In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav", "gertrude"
artfully composed this message within
hlink.net on 12
Jun 2004:

Understand that if you have a farm like mine in Kentucky with 22
cats then you handle them differently than one does if only a
single cat is kept in a NYC apartment. It's just not the same.


Heh. You're barking up the wrong tree there.

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Cheryl
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Old June 13th 04, 03:42 AM
Cheryl
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In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav", "gertrude"
artfully composed this message within
hlink.net on 12
Jun 2004:

Understand that if you have a farm like mine in Kentucky with 22
cats then you handle them differently than one does if only a
single cat is kept in a NYC apartment. It's just not the same.


Heh. You're barking up the wrong tree there.

--
Cheryl
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Old June 13th 04, 03:42 AM
Cheryl
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In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav", "gertrude"
artfully composed this message within
hlink.net on 12
Jun 2004:

Understand that if you have a farm like mine in Kentucky with 22
cats then you handle them differently than one does if only a
single cat is kept in a NYC apartment. It's just not the same.


Heh. You're barking up the wrong tree there.

--
Cheryl
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Old June 13th 04, 03:48 AM
Cathy Friedmann
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"gertrude" wrote in message
link.net...

Understand that if you have a farm like mine in Kentucky with 22 cats then
you handle them differently than one does if only a single cat is kept in

a
NYC apartment. It's just not the same.


What??! Because they are cats who live on rural land, Vs. a single house
cat in an urban (or I assume suburban) area, that gives one the right to
ill-treat them? A cat is a cat is a cat.

Cathy


 




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