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m... We have three 5 month old kittens; Princess Consuela Bananahammock (don't ask), Roxie, and Grizabella. Today, they are all in surgery to get spayed and declawed. I know the general feeling among cat owners is that declawing is cruel and inhumane. Please, no flames and no guilt flingers. I already feel bad enough, but we have our reasons. They are at Banfield Animal Hospital who have assured us that their procedure is much more humane because they don't do a full amputation and that since they are being spayed at the same time, it will be an easier recovery. I am looking for insight from owners of declawed cats. Should I expect their behavior to be the same? They all have their own distinct personality and I would hate for that to change. I AM NOT LOOKING FOR ANTI DECLAWING FLAMERS NOR AM I LOOKING FOR A DEBATE! People who declaw without knowing any better make me sad, but declawing even AFTER you researched is just ****ing cruel! Yes, I'm breaking my own anti-cursing rule because this warrants it!! How can you research declawing and still but your sweet little kittens through that?? I had my cat Dash(RB) declawed, but I do plead ignorance on that. I was 16 when I got her, and she was a swiper, and my parents didn't like having the furniture scratched, so off to be declawed. She was a biter, and never covered her poop. She was a tempermental cat anyway, so I can't really say if the declawing had any effect on that. That animal hospital either doesn't know what they are talking about, or is flat-out lying to you. Thanks for posting their name so we can all bombard them with calls. If you weren't looking for a debate or to be flamed, you came to the wrong place! -- -Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net www.kelltek.com Check out www.snittens.com |
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"ceb2" wrote in message
m... We have three 5 month old kittens; Princess Consuela Bananahammock (don't ask), Roxie, and Grizabella. Today, they are all in surgery to get spayed and declawed. I know the general feeling among cat owners is that declawing is cruel and inhumane. Please, no flames and no guilt flingers. I already feel bad enough, but we have our reasons. They are at Banfield Animal Hospital who have assured us that their procedure is much more humane because they don't do a full amputation and that since they are being spayed at the same time, it will be an easier recovery. I am looking for insight from owners of declawed cats. Should I expect their behavior to be the same? They all have their own distinct personality and I would hate for that to change. I AM NOT LOOKING FOR ANTI DECLAWING FLAMERS NOR AM I LOOKING FOR A DEBATE! People who declaw without knowing any better make me sad, but declawing even AFTER you researched is just ****ing cruel! Yes, I'm breaking my own anti-cursing rule because this warrants it!! How can you research declawing and still but your sweet little kittens through that?? I had my cat Dash(RB) declawed, but I do plead ignorance on that. I was 16 when I got her, and she was a swiper, and my parents didn't like having the furniture scratched, so off to be declawed. She was a biter, and never covered her poop. She was a tempermental cat anyway, so I can't really say if the declawing had any effect on that. That animal hospital either doesn't know what they are talking about, or is flat-out lying to you. Thanks for posting their name so we can all bombard them with calls. If you weren't looking for a debate or to be flamed, you came to the wrong place! -- -Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net www.kelltek.com Check out www.snittens.com |
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ceb2 wrote:
We have three 5 month old kittens; Princess Consuela Bananahammock (don't ask), Roxie, and Grizabella. Today, they are all in surgery to get spayed and declawed. I know the general feeling among cat owners is that declawing is cruel and inhumane. Please, no flames and no guilt flingers. I already feel bad enough, but we have our reasons. You *should* feel bad. Inflicting pain and totally unnecessary amputations on 3 innocent kittens who depend on you to care for them humanely and with kindness is unconscionable. Did it ever occur to you that if you feel bad about this, maybe you shouldn't go through with it? You knew about this newsgroup so why aren't you posting asking for help with whatever clawing issues you had so we could help you and the kittens wouldn't have to suffer unnecessarily? They are at Banfield Animal Hospital Oh yeah, Banfield, which is AFAIC the "dollar store" of vet clinics and has, IMO, some of the most unethical people I've come across. who have assured us that their procedure is much more humane because they don't do a full amputation and that since they are being spayed at the same time, it will be an easier recovery. They lied to you. First of all, it goes against all common sense to think that putting a kitten through major abdominal surgery *and* 10 separate and painful amputations at the same time is "easier" on them than just doing a spay. Second, if they don't do a complete amputation the kitten is at an even greater risk for complications and resulting pain, etc. I did a little googling and found out that you live in the Waterbury, CT area. There is a Banfield Hospital located there so I called to inquire about how they declaw cats. I got two different answers. The person that answered the phone said they just take the nail out, then the vet (a very *young* sounding vet) got on the phone and said that she does a complete disarticulation of the first joint. In other words, a complete amputation. If this is the hospital you are using they have intentionally deceived you. What I found even more shocking was that the vet, obviously defensive, went on to say that, and this is a direct quote, "they are up and walking around the next day as if nothing happened." This is such complete and utter bull****, and this vet intentionally made it sound as though declawing is no big deal. She was selling it for all she was worth. I was absolutely disgusted. I also noticed in my search that your wife was in a serious car accident a few years ago and had some pretty bad injuries. Knowing the kind of pain that your wife suffered partly as a result of bone trauma, it is mystifying to me how you could intentionally inflict the same pain and trauma multiple times on innocent kittens. I am looking for insight from owners of declawed cats. Should I expect their behavior to be the same? They all have their own distinct personality and I would hate for that to change. Click on the link to my photo album and read about Mister Mistopheles and what happened to him as a result of being declawed. He was *lucky* that he got saved from the grim reaper. Most cats in his situation aren't. While you're at it, read why a shelter in Jersey doesn't allow cats they adopt out to be declawed anymo http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...wson.webtv.net I AM NOT LOOKING FOR ANTI DECLAWING FLAMERS NOR AM I LOOKING FOR A DEBATE! This is a public forum and people are free to say anything they choose. You've been on Usenet long enough to know that what you want and what you get are often two entirely different things. Your defensiveness is a clear indicator that you know what you are doing is wrong. I'm hoping that in reality you haven't really gone through with it yet and there's still time to save these kittens from what is an extremely barbaric and cruel act. If that's the case, I and others here would be more than willing to help you find ways to deal humanely with whatever scratching issues you have. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray |
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ceb2 wrote:
We have three 5 month old kittens; Princess Consuela Bananahammock (don't ask), Roxie, and Grizabella. Today, they are all in surgery to get spayed and declawed. I know the general feeling among cat owners is that declawing is cruel and inhumane. Please, no flames and no guilt flingers. I already feel bad enough, but we have our reasons. You *should* feel bad. Inflicting pain and totally unnecessary amputations on 3 innocent kittens who depend on you to care for them humanely and with kindness is unconscionable. Did it ever occur to you that if you feel bad about this, maybe you shouldn't go through with it? You knew about this newsgroup so why aren't you posting asking for help with whatever clawing issues you had so we could help you and the kittens wouldn't have to suffer unnecessarily? They are at Banfield Animal Hospital Oh yeah, Banfield, which is AFAIC the "dollar store" of vet clinics and has, IMO, some of the most unethical people I've come across. who have assured us that their procedure is much more humane because they don't do a full amputation and that since they are being spayed at the same time, it will be an easier recovery. They lied to you. First of all, it goes against all common sense to think that putting a kitten through major abdominal surgery *and* 10 separate and painful amputations at the same time is "easier" on them than just doing a spay. Second, if they don't do a complete amputation the kitten is at an even greater risk for complications and resulting pain, etc. I did a little googling and found out that you live in the Waterbury, CT area. There is a Banfield Hospital located there so I called to inquire about how they declaw cats. I got two different answers. The person that answered the phone said they just take the nail out, then the vet (a very *young* sounding vet) got on the phone and said that she does a complete disarticulation of the first joint. In other words, a complete amputation. If this is the hospital you are using they have intentionally deceived you. What I found even more shocking was that the vet, obviously defensive, went on to say that, and this is a direct quote, "they are up and walking around the next day as if nothing happened." This is such complete and utter bull****, and this vet intentionally made it sound as though declawing is no big deal. She was selling it for all she was worth. I was absolutely disgusted. I also noticed in my search that your wife was in a serious car accident a few years ago and had some pretty bad injuries. Knowing the kind of pain that your wife suffered partly as a result of bone trauma, it is mystifying to me how you could intentionally inflict the same pain and trauma multiple times on innocent kittens. I am looking for insight from owners of declawed cats. Should I expect their behavior to be the same? They all have their own distinct personality and I would hate for that to change. Click on the link to my photo album and read about Mister Mistopheles and what happened to him as a result of being declawed. He was *lucky* that he got saved from the grim reaper. Most cats in his situation aren't. While you're at it, read why a shelter in Jersey doesn't allow cats they adopt out to be declawed anymo http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...wson.webtv.net I AM NOT LOOKING FOR ANTI DECLAWING FLAMERS NOR AM I LOOKING FOR A DEBATE! This is a public forum and people are free to say anything they choose. You've been on Usenet long enough to know that what you want and what you get are often two entirely different things. Your defensiveness is a clear indicator that you know what you are doing is wrong. I'm hoping that in reality you haven't really gone through with it yet and there's still time to save these kittens from what is an extremely barbaric and cruel act. If that's the case, I and others here would be more than willing to help you find ways to deal humanely with whatever scratching issues you have. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray |
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That seems obvious. Those that declaw after knowing the facts don't often
have a change of heart. -- Cat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Mary" wrote in message news Ceb2 DOES NOT FEEL BAD, CP. |
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That seems obvious. Those that declaw after knowing the facts don't often
have a change of heart. -- Cat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Mary" wrote in message news Ceb2 DOES NOT FEEL BAD, CP. |
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I have to agree with the group here. Knowingly declawing after have gathered
all the facts is disgusting. I have to wonder where your conscious was? It wasn't as if these cats were declawed before you rescued them. Your having these cats declawed was a very abusive act. It is sad that you would first post your intentions of declawing but even sadder acting as if you are proud of it. These cats depended on you to keep them safe and you violated their trust. You should ashamed of yourself! -- Cat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "ceb2" wrote in message om... To all of you: F*CK YOU AND BITE ME!! None of you know me none of you know my situation. You want to know how we got our cats? Princess was rescued from some ******* who never fixed or fed his cats. Her mom was skin and bones, and so was she. Literally smaller than a softball. She was our first. She cried all the time if I wasn't holding her. We nursed her back to health and she is perfectly fit now. Roxie was second. She came from the Connecticut humane society. No one wanted her. She was mean, aggressive, and hissed at any person or cat who came near her. We took a chance and she gets along great with Princess and the new one. Grizabella came from the Waterbury CT dog pound. She ended up there because the pet store couldn't sell her. She was the runt of the litter, already scheduled for euthansia. She came home with a yeast infection in her ears, worms, and kennel cough. That's right kennel cough. We ended up medicating all of them, and she needed ear drops for three weeks. So all of you just back off. No one here has the right to judge me. We gave these cats not only a shot, but a happy exsistance, and in perhaps more than one case, exsistance period. We had a chance to see them this afternoon a matter of hours after the surgery and all are doing fine. Tired but fine. They are all eating and Roxie is trying to play with the other two. I am not a lurker or a troll. I came here for the same reasons you all did. To talk about my cats. Buncha freakin hypocrites. If any of you want to talk about cats please let me know, seriously, these cats are wonderful, and I love to talk about them. If you want to jam your opinion down my throat, don't bother. |
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