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Old May 26th 05, 10:06 PM
Mary
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"Catnipped" wrote

Lyn is The Victim, Lori. She portrays herself as such, and that is
apparently
what Sherry believes. All I can do is shake my head.


This is true. Like you, when I see someone like Suz, who really does have
challenges in her life and *NEVER* refers to them much less complains

about
them, that's when the perpetual "victims" of the world turn my stomach.


The really ironic thing is, she has been the aggressor, to the point of
carrying Usenet discussions into RL with me, and with you, simply
posting any filth she can for the simple reason that you do not follow
her lead and flame me. Where the hell was Sherry's sense of outrage
then?


  #122  
Old May 26th 05, 10:18 PM
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"Mary" wrote in message
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"Catnipped" wrote

Lyn is The Victim, Lori. She portrays herself as such, and that is
apparently
what Sherry believes. All I can do is shake my head.


This is true. Like you, when I see someone like Suz, who really does

have
challenges in her life and *NEVER* refers to them much less complains

about
them, that's when the perpetual "victims" of the world turn my stomach.


The really ironic thing is, she has been the aggressor, to the point of
carrying Usenet discussions into RL with me, and with you, simply
posting any filth she can for the simple reason that you do not follow
her lead and flame me. Where the hell was Sherry's sense of outrage
then?


Yeah, I committed the most awful crime of not jumping on the "let's hate
Mary" bandwagon thereby inviting the eternal wrath of the paintywaists! ;

But really, I think that all happened when Sherry was having computer
problems and wasn't following the group. At least I hope so, because I
can't think of any other reason why someone I really liked and respected
would suddenly turn on me and call me the lowest poster she's ever
encountered on Usenet (which, going by the nature of Usenet, is *REALLY*
low - LOL). That I couldn't understand because *I* wasn't the one who
called someone a half-rotted dildo, or accused someone of burning their cat
(ugh, that still makes me ill after the emotional turmoil I went through
when Bandit was injured!). It's really, really puzzling, but I guess that's
the nature of newsgroups. Well, it may be puzzling, but it *SURE* ain't
keeping me awake nights! ;

Hugs,

CatNipped


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Old May 26th 05, 10:55 PM
Catnipped
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Do you think Janet is going to run
out to the corner Opiate Store and buy painkillers just becaue Lyn said
to?



LOL - trying to picture the "corner opiate store"!

Before x-rays were taken, a substitute vet had me give her 1/2 baby
aspirin. No noticable change. She also sold me "Wellactin", a fish
oil supplement. Only the cats turned their noses up at the food when
I used it. Finally gave up on that one! My current vet said she had
several clients test is (by feeding it to their cats! ;-D) and none of
the cats liked it either.


Again, Janet, I'm not taking issue with how you're treating your cat - from
the posts I've read you are a *really* good cat mom.

What I *keep* having problems with is Lyn's advice to everyone here to give
their cats drugs just to "rule out" things. Advice like that is a staple of
her posts and, to her mind, seemingly, makes her sound like a medical
authority because she knows the names of drugs!

No, there's not a corner opiate store out there... but vets, even more so
than human doctors, can be talked into doling out drugs that are not needed.
And if you urge someone to ask their vet for a drug for a "possible" illness
instead of a definite diagnosis, and you portray drugs as a panacea to all
problems, well that's *NOT* good advice and people need to know that that's
not good advice, especially in today's world of "quick fixes". (Again, I'm
not saying that you're looking for a quick fix I'm saying that Lyn is trying
to push a quick fix.)

Lyn likes to be seen as the expert on everything she posts about, and I'm
just trying to couteract that act with a little common sense.

As I'm sure you know, giving drugs is a last resort when nothing else has
worked. When a definite diagnosis has been made, and all other options have
been tried, then drugs are the solution, but, in my opinion, not *until*
then.

Hugs,

CatNipped

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Janet B
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Old May 26th 05, 11:15 PM
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"Catnipped" wrote in message
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"Mary" wrote in message
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"Catnipped" wrote

Lyn is The Victim, Lori. She portrays herself as such, and that is
apparently
what Sherry believes. All I can do is shake my head.

This is true. Like you, when I see someone like Suz, who really does

have
challenges in her life and *NEVER* refers to them much less complains

about
them, that's when the perpetual "victims" of the world turn my

stomach.

The really ironic thing is, she has been the aggressor, to the point of
carrying Usenet discussions into RL with me, and with you, simply
posting any filth she can for the simple reason that you do not follow
her lead and flame me. Where the hell was Sherry's sense of outrage
then?


Yeah, I committed the most awful crime of not jumping on the "let's hate
Mary" bandwagon thereby inviting the eternal wrath of the paintywaists!

;

But really, I think that all happened when Sherry was having computer
problems and wasn't following the group. At least I hope so, because I
can't think of any other reason why someone I really liked and respected
would suddenly turn on me and call me the lowest poster she's ever
encountered on Usenet (which, going by the nature of Usenet, is *REALLY*
low - LOL). That I couldn't understand because *I* wasn't the one who
called someone a half-rotted dildo, or accused someone of burning their

cat
(ugh, that still makes me ill after the emotional turmoil I went through
when Bandit was injured!). It's really, really puzzling, but I guess

that's
the nature of newsgroups. Well, it may be puzzling, but it *SURE* ain't
keeping me awake nights! ;


I have always liked Sherry, so I am baffled and disappointed.


  #125  
Old May 27th 05, 02:39 AM
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Janet B wrote:


Thanks Sherry. We don't all have to agree (or even avoid vehementely
disagreeing!) to see honesty. I don't quite understand Mary's wrath.
I'm trying to do everything humanly possible to solve this problem AND
give Carey quality of life. Since this is not the only issue she has,
as I've said in other posts, it's not as simple as people like Mary
would like to believe, and people like Phillip have insane "solutions"
for.

Carey was born 2 days after the rest of her litter. I should have
know she would be a little weirdo! A wonderful little weirdo, but one
just the same. ;-D

--
Janet B


She may have some brain damage from lack of oxygen. That would explain
a lot of her behaviors, actually.

-L.

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Old May 27th 05, 03:05 AM
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"-L." wrote in message
oups.com...


Janet B wrote:


Thanks Sherry. We don't all have to agree (or even avoid vehementely
disagreeing!) to see honesty. I don't quite understand Mary's wrath.
I'm trying to do everything humanly possible to solve this problem AND
give Carey quality of life. Since this is not the only issue she has,
as I've said in other posts, it's not as simple as people like Mary
would like to believe, and people like Phillip have insane "solutions"
for.

Carey was born 2 days after the rest of her litter. I should have
know she would be a little weirdo! A wonderful little weirdo, but one
just the same. ;-D

--
Janet B


She may have some brain damage from lack of oxygen. That would explain
a lot of her behaviors, actually.

-L.


Only if her brain is located near where yours appears to be.


  #127  
Old May 27th 05, 11:35 AM
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On 26 May 2005 18:39:33 -0700, "-L." wrote:



She may have some brain damage from lack of oxygen. That would explain
a lot of her behaviors, actually.



Yes. I kid about it, but I think it's definitely something that must
have affected her.

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  #128  
Old May 28th 05, 02:00 AM
-L.
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Janet B wrote:
On 26 May 2005 09:35:09 -0700, "-L." wrote:


Nope - usually she's "looking" for us (even though we're far from
hiding!! These days, it's when she wakes up, almost like she's
disoriented.


This is common in elderly animals.

She also does it early in the morning ("get up and FEED
me"). It used to be in the middle of the night primarily, and when we
first settled in the family room for the evening. Both seemed to be
satisfied when she "found" us. She's been doing that to some extent,
for her whole life.


Oh, ok. It doesn't sound like pain-induced vocalization then. I was
just a bit concerned when you said she vocalizes a lot since that can
be pain-induced and/or a sign of hyperthyroidism.


She actually usually has a pretty good play session with the other cat
in the late evening. But then he comes and sleeps with us.


The reason I mention it is because if she is really tired she's more
likely to sleep most of the night and less likely to urinate
inappropriately. There is also some school of thought that cats who
don't get much exercise tend to be prone to develop IC and other LUT
issues.


X-rays have shown no signs of arthritis.


Humm...she is a hard case! You have pretty much exhausted my ideas on
what might be causing the strange behaviors. Most of the time when
people call me for behavioral issues it's pretty easy to track down the
causes, or at least to get some relief. Since the Elavil worked for a
short time, I'd be inclined to think about the IC diagnosis more and
see if there are any other treatments your vet recommends. I know
keeping the cat as unstressed as possible goes a really long way in
keeping IC episodes from flaring up. Maybe the Prozac will give some
releif once it kicks in (which should be sometime in the next two weeks
or so - it tends to take that long for serum levels to get to
therapeutic highs.) I also wonder about the late birth - it probably
has something to do with her strange behaviors. It's pretty rare for a
cat to birth kittens that far apart.

If you'd like to discuss this further (or anything else about your
kitties), feel free to email me at the address in the header. I hope
you can get some solution!

-L.

 




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