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Old March 21st 08, 02:21 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes,rec.pets.cats.community
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Default From Flippy : Easter Lillies Are Toxic to Pets OT

any kind of lilly makes me think of funerals; where I come from,
that's what they have all around your casket: big bunches of lillies
(barf)! Like, I want those in my place?


That's common here too.

One the cutest examples I've seen of someone having too much of the
wrong sort of information was an American political scientist friend
who hadn't been in Scotland at this time of year before. She told
me she was amazed at how many Scottish old ladies were Sinn Fein
supporters. After boggling a bit, I worked out that she associated
yellow-and-white conical flowers worn on clothing around Easter with
the Irish commemorating the Easter Rising by wearing lilies in their
lapels. (Her specialty is European nationalist movements). In fact
what she was seeing was women wearing daffodils they'd bought from
charity collectors for the Marie Curie cancer fund (they provide
visiting nurses for cancer patients, and do their main collection at
this time of year, selling daffodils they harvest specially from
plantings on council land like road cuttings).

I still can't stop thinking of the little old ladies from the Marie
Curie charity shops being holed up in the O'Connell Street Post
Office with James Connolly and wielding machine guns.

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Old March 21st 08, 03:44 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes,rec.pets.cats.community
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Default From Flippy : Easter Lillies Are Toxic to Pets OT

There will never be total agreement about this. I have lived in four
different areas of Illinois and Kentucky over the years and, have different
opinions in each area. I always pull the stamens out of the lilies, mostly
because I don't want the mess of the pollen.
"mc" wrote in message
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When I posted that last night... I could have been a bit less
dramatic, so apologies, and I could be wrong about the Easter Lilly.

But it is absolutely true about the poinsettia and it is a myth that
continues to perpetuate itself, and that was really point I wanted to
make.

These myths purpetuate themselves and people believe them and they
never go away.

But my apologies about assuming that was also true of the Easter Lilly.



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Old March 21st 08, 03:58 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes,rec.pets.cats.community
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"Granby" wrote in message
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I always pull the stamens out of the lilies, mostly because I don't want
the mess of the pollen.


One of my more embarrassing moments involved a boquet of lilies. I was
buying them at the local grocery store for my sister who was coming to
visit. I picked out a gorgeous bunch of lilies, sniffed them appreciatively
and went to the check out lane to pay. Several people complimented me on
such a lovely boquet, including the cashier. When I got to the car I caught
a glimpse of myself in the rear view mirror and was horrified--I had a huge
smudge of vivid, yellowish pollen on my face. My only consolation was that
I didn't know anyone who saw me! I now religiously clip the stamens!

Bonnie


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Old March 21st 08, 04:02 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes,rec.pets.cats.community
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Honey, if that embarrassed you pray you never loose your sight. I have had
that happen with flowers. makeup running when in the rain and all sorts of
things. Looked close at some comics in the paper and went to church with
colored ink on my nose. A lady actually gave me a "spit bath" with no
warning she was going to do so!
"22brix" wrote in message
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"Granby" wrote in message
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I always pull the stamens out of the lilies, mostly because I don't
want the mess of the pollen.


One of my more embarrassing moments involved a boquet of lilies. I was
buying them at the local grocery store for my sister who was coming to
visit. I picked out a gorgeous bunch of lilies, sniffed them
appreciatively and went to the check out lane to pay. Several people
complimented me on such a lovely boquet, including the cashier. When I
got to the car I caught a glimpse of myself in the rear view mirror and
was horrified--I had a huge smudge of vivid, yellowish pollen on my face.
My only consolation was that I didn't know anyone who saw me! I now
religiously clip the stamens!

Bonnie



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Old March 21st 08, 05:20 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes,rec.pets.cats.community
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In rec.pets.cats.anecdotes mc wrote:

I posted that post and I was wrong. My only hope is that if Jack
disagrees with someone face to face, that Jack Campin doesn't get
quite so annoyed with them. It would be wrong for anyone to assume
that sort of behavior should be associated to the "Brits".


I wouldn't assume that! We have several Brits on this ng with quite a
variety of temperaments.

Anyway, is someone from Scotland considered a "Brit"?

Even my husband scolded me for posting that. Even he knew that Lilies
are toxic.


There is quite a bit of debate over the poinsettia plant, and I
wrongly assumed that this is probably true of the lily as well.


One thing to keep in mind is that there's quite a wide variety of *level*
of toxicity in plants, and a lot of sites that list "plants toxic to
cats" don't differentiate. But a plant that might give a cat a bit of
indigestion or make them throw up would be listed alongside a plant that
could cause death in 5 hours, which makes it hard to get a sense of
perspective on individual plants.

My theory - not that I have any actual information to back this up - is
that poinsettia is one of those plants that causes minor distress to
animals when ingested, so is very mildly toxic. And that's not an urban
legend, but it doesn't mean it's in the same class as the lily plant.

Joyce

Thank you. Toxicity levels vary from plant to plant. One might not kill
your cat but can certainly make it quite ill. Poinsettias are a case in
point.

And with that, I leave this cross-posted thread which is giving me
indigestion.

Jill

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Old March 21st 08, 11:53 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes,rec.pets.cats.community
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Jack Campin - bogus address wrote in
:

any kind of lilly makes me think of funerals; where I come from,
that's what they have all around your casket: big bunches of lillies
(barf)! Like, I want those in my place?


That's common here too.

One the cutest examples I've seen of someone having too much of the
wrong sort of information was an American political scientist friend
who hadn't been in Scotland at this time of year before. She told
me she was amazed at how many Scottish old ladies were Sinn Fein
supporters.



Reminds me of some "academians" I work with. Could not "common sense"
their way out of a paper bags. To be fair, I think your friend was just
showing off.








After boggling a bit, I worked out that she associated
yellow-and-white conical flowers worn on clothing around Easter with
the Irish commemorating the Easter Rising by wearing lilies in their
lapels. (Her specialty is European nationalist movements). In fact
what she was seeing was women wearing daffodils they'd bought from
charity collectors for the Marie Curie cancer fund (they provide
visiting nurses for cancer patients, and do their main collection at
this time of year, selling daffodils they harvest specially from
plantings on council land like road cuttings).

I still can't stop thinking of the little old ladies from the Marie
Curie charity shops being holed up in the O'Connell Street Post
Office with James Connolly and wielding machine guns.

==== j a c k at c a m p i n . m e . u k ===
http://www.campin.me.uk ==== Jack Campin, 11 Third St, Newtongrange
EH22 4PU, Scotland == mob 07800 739 557 CD-ROMs and free stuff:
Scottish music, food intolerance, and Mac logic fonts



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Old March 22nd 08, 01:35 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes,rec.pets.cats.community
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[composite followup to three posts]

I posted that post and I was wrong. My only hope is that if Jack
disagrees with someone face to face, that Jack Campin doesn't get
quite so annoyed with them. It would be wrong for anyone to assume
that sort of behavior should be associated to the "Brits".
I am not unaware as to why he may have been upset by the post and all
I can do is apologize.


You possibly didn't realize how little information I had to go on.
You aren't a regular poster on rpca. Your id was vaguely familiar,
but then so are the ids of a bunch of pretty vicious trolls. Since
what you were suggesting seemed intended to kill our cats, I assumed
you were just another one crawling out of the woodwork.

Given how little time it could have taken for somebody to expose
their cats to this hazard at this time of year, politeness was
inappropriate, troll or not. We needed to stop anyone taking your
advice, and fast.

I'd never heard anything about poinsettias being toxic. That may
well be a legend for all I know. I was first warned about lilies
being poisonous when I was about ten years old (that was arum lilies
poisoning kids in New Zealand, where they're very common - they're on
the poison list for cats at maxshouse but with no data yet). More
than 45 years ago and the official advice is still the same as I was
told then:

http://www.landcareresearch.co.nz/pu...s_internal.asp


: Now in USA people bring their various antique treasures, many of
: which end up originating indeed from either UK or Europe, but the
: expert in this country rarely has the knowledge and/or written
: record displayed by the British antique experts on their shows.

You're probably thinking of Arthur Negus of the Antiques Roadshow.
(A bloke comes up to Negus in the TV studio and waves something
red and smelly under his nose. Negus says "What on earth is that?".
The enquirer says "a used tampon". Negus calls the BBC security
guards, and as they're dragging the guy away he shouts back "I only
wanted to know what period it was from!")


| One the cutest examples I've seen of someone having too much of the
| wrong sort of information was an American political scientist friend
| who hadn't been in Scotland at this time of year before. She told
| me she was amazed at how many Scottish old ladies were Sinn Fein
| supporters.
| Reminds me of some "academians" I work with. Could not "common
| sense" their way out of a paper bags. To be fair, I think your
| friend was just showing off.

Yes to the common-sense-deficiency bit, but she doesn't do point-
scoring at all; if anything she's too modest and unassuming for
her own good. Just rather away with the fairies at times.

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Jack Campin, 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland == mob 07800 739 557
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Old March 22nd 08, 04:53 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes,rec.pets.cats.community
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On Mar 21, 8:35 pm, Jack Campin - bogus address
wrote:
[composite followup to three posts]



Hi Jack,

I really appreciate this post.

I have read over that first post I made to this thread over and over
again and I have to say that it was a pretty careless post.

I will be the first to admit that sometimes I am a bit too quick to
jump on things - I am very compulsive.... I like to think it is part
of my charm ;-) NOT!!!

Your post in response was understandable, and I harbor no hard
feelings towards you at all.

I did read with great interest about the ladies that purchased the
daffodils they'd bought from charity collectors for the Marie Curie ,
though ;-) That is a good story ;-)

I did a search in this group about poinsettias and the results were
quite interesting; apparently this argument has been around for
awhile ;-) I am waiting for Phil to jump in and side with the part
about poinsettias not being good for cats... and that is fine...
Again, I would never suggest that a person feed their cats
poinsettias, but I would like people to see they are not toxic.
Causing some minor gastro-intestinal distress is not toxic. They are
not life threatening to a cat.

OK, I am dropping this subject now. Let this subject never come up
again between us... hehehe ;-)

Thanks ;-)

Melissa
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Old March 22nd 08, 04:54 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes,rec.pets.cats.community
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On Mar 21, 8:35 pm, Jack Campin - bogus address
wrote:
[composite followup to three posts]

I posted that post and I was wrong. My only hope is that if Jack





Jack, I bet you are an absolute riot to hang with ;-) :-) ;-)

Melissa
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Old March 22nd 08, 03:55 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.anecdotes,rec.pets.cats.community
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Years ago I used to use all sorts of things, like essential oils to
keep my cats from my plants. The essential oils trick did not work not
for my kitties at the time. I used various ones, too.

The cats I have now have no interest in the plants. But rest assured,
they can't get to the lily.

That is funny about the roses. Little buggers!

 




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