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"Ashley" wrote in message
... And you prove exactly my point. You are extraordinarily risk averse. You impose that risk aversion on your cats. I choose not to live in fear. Well, congratulations Ashley. You win. You win the right to remain ignorant, you win the right to put your cats at risk. I'll only beat my head against a brick wall until it hurts. You, obviously, are willing to be bloodied. So, go ahead, bang away, I'm outta here - I have to go apologize profusely to my cats for making their lives so miserable. Hugs, CatNipped |
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"Diane L. Schirf" wrote in message k.net... In article , "CatNipped" wrote: ROTFLMAOWTIME!! OK folks, hang it up, the ultimate argument on this issue has been made. Ashley's vet said cats should go outside, so now all of you go open your doors and let your cats outside (be sure to take the balls and chains off first!). Hugs, CatNipped I opened my door, and Hodge ran into the hall. Now if only the elevator door would open. And if only he could hit the 1 button. And then if the desk attendant would be so kind as to open the two doors downstairs. Or I could leave the window and screens open, but 12 floors might be a bit much for his 9 lives. I once opened the door inadvertantly (failed to close it, more like) and Cheeks ran right out front. She came back inside within three seconds, I think because I shrieked and cried and called her name. There is a busy street out front. The funny thing is, she has not tried this again. Now she runs when anyone opens the door. |
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"Ashley" wrote in message ... "CatNipped" wrote in message ... Ashley, I don't need to read anything on this subject. Unlike some I have two assets which tell me what to do about my cats regarding keeping them in or letting them out, they're called common sense and observational skills. You still don't get it, do you? I am not in the United States. My cats do not face the dangers cats in the United States face. The world outside your borders is different. There are cars in your urban neighborhood, therefore your cats are in danger. |
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OK, this little debate has become a little too nasty. I respect both
opinions, indoor & outdoor... Both have strong reasons behind them & basically it comes down to personal choice. My own choice is to let the cats outdoors... Only in the daytime. They both got gentle introductions to the outside world, short 10 min sessions with me a few times a week, building up to a leashed walk (much of which each of them spent inside my vest) to TED. Meghan: NZ does exist in an enviornmental bubble, it's an isolated set of Islands... Almost all large mamals are imported & considered 'Noxious'. The population is low & even an 'urban' enviornment in NZ would be considered 'large town' to 'Small City' in the USA. Catnipped: Relax darling.... I know your indoor cats will live forever & you can say 'I told you so' when either Chablis or Muscat turn up dead of a car hit or a bear attack (although, Chablis has befreinded the local skunks & that makes it an even match in my book)... But some people are just not going to agree with you. Think back to your 'American Bashing' thread.... As I've been typing this, Chablis has just come in from her sunset stroll, she's fine. I mean, aside from the missing paw, chewed up tail, facial lacerations & the jug of antifreeze she's sipping on, she's fine. Have some catnip & shake it off little girl. Toung still firmly in cheek... -- Mathew Butler to 2 kittens: Chablis & Muscat En Vino Veritas |
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"Mathew Kagis" wrote in message newscn4e.110900$KI2.70697@clgrps12... OK, this little debate has become a little too nasty. I respect both opinions, indoor & outdoor... Both have strong reasons behind them & basically it comes down to personal choice. My own choice is to let the cats outdoors... Only in the daytime. They both got gentle introductions to the outside world, short 10 min sessions with me a few times a week, building up to a leashed walk (much of which each of them spent inside my vest) to TED. Meghan: NZ does exist in an enviornmental bubble, it's an isolated set of Islands... Almost all large mamals are imported & considered 'Noxious'. The population is low & even an 'urban' enviornment in NZ would be considered 'large town' to 'Small City' in the USA. Catnipped: Relax darling.... I know your indoor cats will live forever & you can say 'I told you so' when either Chablis or Muscat turn up dead of a car hit or a bear attack (although, Chablis has befreinded the local skunks & that makes it an even match in my book)... But some people are just not going to agree with you. Think back to your 'American Bashing' thread.... As I've been typing this, Chablis has just come in from her sunset stroll, she's fine. I mean, aside from the missing paw, chewed up tail, facial lacerations & the jug of antifreeze she's sipping on, she's fine. Have some catnip & shake it off little girl. Toung still firmly in cheek... Some of us get upset even at the thought of others endangering cats. I am one of them. It upsets me that you endanger your cats. In addition I resent your condescending tone. I may lighten up about lots of things but not the safety of cats. It's like telling someone who wants you to give them your keys when you're drunk, "Hey, haha why are your knickers in a knot, lighten up! Maybe I'll hit something or someone or maybe I won't, but I don't want to deprive myself of the fun so I will take that chance." Be an irresponsible asshole if you want, but do not try to dictate to those of us who care more than you do and take our responsibility toward these domesticated animals more seriously than you do. |
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SNIP
Some of us get upset even at the thought of others endangering cats. I am one of them. It upsets me that you endanger your cats. In addition I resent your condescending tone. I may lighten up about lots of things but not the safety of cats. It's like telling someone who wants you to give them your keys when you're drunk, "Hey, haha why are your knickers in a knot, lighten up! Maybe I'll hit something or someone or maybe I won't, but I don't want to deprive myself of the fun so I will take that chance." Be an irresponsible asshole if you want, but do not try to dictate to those of us who care more than you do and take our responsibility toward these domesticated animals more seriously than you do. ......And it continues to be nasty. And I will continue to condecend as long as people are calling me names like 'Irresponsible' and 'Asshole'. Comparing letting cats outside to letting someone drive drunk is BLOODY REDICULOUS!!!! And as a lounge/restaraunt manager, certified by the government in responsible liquor service, I know of what I speak. CHILL OUT! -- Mathew Butler to 2 kittens: Chablis & Muscat En Vino Veritas |
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"Mathew Kagis" wrote in message news:8nn4e.110901$KI2.95237@clgrps12... SNIP Some of us get upset even at the thought of others endangering cats. I am one of them. It upsets me that you endanger your cats. In addition I resent your condescending tone. I may lighten up about lots of things but not the safety of cats. It's like telling someone who wants you to give them your keys when you're drunk, "Hey, haha why are your knickers in a knot, lighten up! Maybe I'll hit something or someone or maybe I won't, but I don't want to deprive myself of the fun so I will take that chance." Be an irresponsible asshole if you want, but do not try to dictate to those of us who care more than you do and take our responsibility toward these domesticated animals more seriously than you do. .....And it continues to be nasty. And I will continue to condecend as long as people are calling me names like 'Irresponsible' and 'Asshole'. Comparing letting cats outside to letting someone drive drunk is BLOODY REDICULOUS!!!! In what way? In both situations you are intentionally allowing an activity that could maim or kill. And as a lounge/restaraunt manager, certified by the government in responsible liquor service, I know of what I speak. CHILL OUT! Oh, now that always works to get people to NOT care about things they care about. Oh, no, that's right--it never works. For you, cats are replaceable. Expendable. Some of us treasure ours as family members. That is the difference. And, some of us get upset even about others endangering these trusting creatures. You are mistaken to think that you can or should tell others how much to care about these matters. You're happy to take your chances with your cats' safety. I think that's sad--for your cats, mostly. Many of us are not, and are not happy that you are. So---no. No chilling on this topic. And I don't want to hear about it when your cats get hurt or go missing. -- Mathew Butler to 2 kittens: Chablis & Muscat En Vino Veritas |
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"Mary" wrote in message ... SNIP .....And it continues to be nasty. And I will continue to condecend as long as people are calling me names like 'Irresponsible' and 'Asshole'. Comparing letting cats outside to letting someone drive drunk is BLOODY REDICULOUS!!!! In what way? In both situations you are intentionally allowing an activity that could maim or kill. ..... As I do whenever I step out the door, or go on a ski run or allow anyone I know to do anything other than stay housebound...OOPS!!! But the house might burn down so they should'nt do that either. SNIP For you, cats are replaceable. Expendable. Some of us treasure ours as family members. That is the difference. And, some of us get upset even about others endangering these trusting creatures. You are mistaken to think that you can or should tell others how much to care about these matters. You're happy to take your chances with your cats' safety. I think that's sad--for your cats, mostly. Many of us are not, and are not happy that you are. So---no. No chilling on this topic. And I don't want to hear about it when your cats get hurt or go missing. My cat's are replaceable? You don't know anything about me, and your judging of me is an even larger incentive to be condecending. You don't have to hear about when my cats get hurt, just killfile me... If your still reading... I'm continually amazed at how many folks think letting a meat eating predator (ie. cats) outside is a HORRIBLE thing. The VENOM released by militant indoor cat owners is even more shocking. I respect your choice to keep your cats confined in an artificial enviornment, I choose different. I would suggest that your anger, venom & fear has little to do with your desire to see your cats happy... and alot to do with YOUR FEAR!!! Don't let your cats out, terrorists will get them..... -- Mathew Butler to 2 kittens: Chablis & Muscat En Vino Veritas |
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"Mathew Kagis" wrote in message news:AJn4e.237$vt1.102@edtnps90... "Mary" wrote in message ... SNIP .....And it continues to be nasty. And I will continue to condecend as long as people are calling me names like 'Irresponsible' and 'Asshole'. Comparing letting cats outside to letting someone drive drunk is BLOODY REDICULOUS!!!! In what way? In both situations you are intentionally allowing an activity that could maim or kill. .... As I do whenever I step out the door, or go on a ski run or allow anyone I know to do anything other than stay housebound...OOPS!!! But the house might burn down so they should'nt do that either. SNIP For you, cats are replaceable. Expendable. Some of us treasure ours as family members. That is the difference. And, some of us get upset even about others endangering these trusting creatures. You are mistaken to think that you can or should tell others how much to care about these matters. You're happy to take your chances with your cats' safety. I think that's sad--for your cats, mostly. Many of us are not, and are not happy that you are. So---no. No chilling on this topic. And I don't want to hear about it when your cats get hurt or go missing. My cat's are replaceable? You don't know anything about me, and your judging of me is an even larger incentive to be condecending. You don't have to hear about when my cats get hurt, just killfile me... If your still reading... I'm continually amazed at how many folks think letting a meat eating predator (ie. cats) outside is a HORRIBLE thing. Oh please. What chance has a cat got against a car? Or a dog? Be honest. The VENOM released by militant indoor cat owners is even more shocking. I respect your choice to keep your cats confined in an artificial enviornment, I choose different. I would suggest that your anger, venom & fear has little to do with your desire to see your cats happy... and alot to do with YOUR FEAR!!! Don't let your cats out, terrorists will get them..... Nonsense. You are neglecting your responsibilities to your pets. Those of us who keep them indoors are not. It's very simple. Having seen many animals maimed and killed by cars etc., I and others feel strongly about this. You are wrong for endangering the animals that trust you. If you felt your cats were irreplaceable you would not endanger them. No venom in that. What you hate, and others who are equally irresponsible hate, is being reminded of what you are really doing when you let them out unattended. For your cats' sakes, you should be reminded. The "venom" as you put it, is on your side. |
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SNIP
Nonsense. You are neglecting your responsibilities to your pets. Those of us who keep them indoors are not. It's very simple. Having seen many animals maimed and killed by cars etc., I and others feel strongly about this. You are wrong for endangering the animals that trust you. If you felt your cats were irreplaceable you would not endanger them. No venom in that. What you hate, and others who are equally irresponsible hate, is being reminded of what you are really doing when you let them out unattended. For your cats' sakes, you should be reminded. The "venom" as you put it, is on your side. Sure, whatever you say.... You are now on my 'militant, angry, needs to get laid' KILLFILE LIST. Have an angry life, oh, I foregot, you allready are. -- Mathew Butler to 2 kittens: Chablis & Muscat En Vino Veritas |
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