(OT) Wish me Luck!

jmcquown wrote:
I met with the President of the Board of Directors and the Membership
Director yesterday to address this ridiculous requirement of having to be
a member of "the club". (My friend and neighbor came along to provide
moral support.) This meeting is my last hope of not having to sell the house.

I was asked to gather my financial information so my request for a waiver
of the membership requirement can be presented to the Board. No
promises, of course. At least they're willing to consider my situation.
It's not like I planned to move here. I moved here to take care of my
parents. There's no other reason I would have come here.

Since their deaths in 2008, this has become my home. I really don't want
to have to move. My last memories of my parents are in this house. My
mother died in this house. I have some very strong ties to this place
(even though I don't like golfers in my back yard and don't use the
"amenities" this membership offers.)

Anyway, the Board can issue a club membership waiver if the majority
agree I'm a "hardship" case. They were very nice people, and seemed to
understand my situation. But it's not up to one person.

I'm thinking I should give them copies of my tax returns which clearly
prove I don't have an income. Maybe also submit copies of Persia's vet
and R/x food bills. Not to mention paying the plumber and repairing the
required security system. And I keep my lawn nice and tidy, even though
I have to pay someone to do that, too.

Of course I have regular bills to pay, just like anyone else. I'm rather
fond of having food, electricity and running water. Persia and basic
necessities take priority over their club membership in my book.

I could use some purrs that I prevail in this matter.

Jill

Sending you lots and lots of good luck purrs.
--
Adrian

On 8/21/2012 3:48 PM, MaryL wrote:


"Bastette" wrote in message ...

I'm not sure about sharing the vet bills with them, though. While you
and I consider veterinary care a necessity, some people might look at
that as a luxury, or at least as discretionary. I could imagine someone
thinking, "You claim you're so poor, but you choose to have a pet that
requires high expenses. Maybe you could give away the cat to lower your
expenses?"

It's a fine line, sometimes. You want them to see what your obligations
are, so that they understand your financial limitations. But you don't
want anyone to get the impression that you're asking for a waiver so you
can spend your money on other non-necessities. The people on the board
have the power to decide whether you'll get the waiver, so even if their
values are f-ed up, you have to appeal to them anyway.

Best of luck!!

Good point, Joyce & Mary.

I called the DIC Board president yesterday. He said a spreadsheet will
be fine. I just need to show how much money I have, living expenses
(food, water, electricity, insurance, etc.). I mentioned Persia's
medical bills. The first word out of his mouth was "discretionary".

I know the attitude. If Persia was my granddaughter no one would blink
about my paying for her medical care if she got sick. And given
Persia's in early stage renal failure, her care will be ongoing. I
simply have to find another way to present it.

Persia's prescription food is exactly that: a prescription. Who is to
say who the prescription is for? See what I mean about fudging on a
spreadsheet? Yet it is a true and ongoing expense they need to
consider. Given the average age of the people who live here, surely
they can understand the word "prescription"

Jill

On Aug 23, 2:00*pm, jmcquown wrote:

Persia's prescription food is exactly that: a prescription. *Who is to
say who the prescription is for? *See what I mean about fudging on a
spreadsheet?

Yep it goes on the spreadsheet as "prescriptions" don't need to say
who the prescription is for do you?
When Frannk Zappa was asking about his smoking he said "To me these
things are food" so add your cigarette costs into your food
expenditure

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

"Lesley" wrote in message
...

On Aug 23, 2:00 pm, jmcquown wrote:

Persia's prescription food is exactly that: a prescription. Who is to
say who the prescription is for? See what I mean about fudging on a
spreadsheet?

Yep it goes on the spreadsheet as "prescriptions" don't need to say
who the prescription is for do you?
When Frannk Zappa was asking about his smoking he said "To me these
things are food" so add your cigarette costs into your food
expenditure

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I agree about the prescriptions but not about the cigarettes. It is
unlikely that anyone would discover the deception, but the fact is that
prescriptions for Persia *are* prescriptions and cigarettes are *not* food.
She certainly does not need to be so detailed as to list them as cigarettes,
but they should be bundled into something honest (maybe that big catchall
"miscellaneous expenditures" or even "supplies").

MaryL

On 8/24/2012 8:34 AM, MaryL wrote:


"Lesley" wrote in message
...

On Aug 23, 2:00 pm, jmcquown wrote:

Persia's prescription food is exactly that: a prescription. Who is to
say who the prescription is for? See what I mean about fudging on a
spreadsheet?

Yep it goes on the spreadsheet as "prescriptions" don't need to say
who the prescription is for do you?
When Frannk Zappa was asking about his smoking he said "To me these
things are food" so add your cigarette costs into your food
expenditure

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I agree about the prescriptions but not about the cigarettes. It is
unlikely that anyone would discover the deception, but the fact is that
prescriptions for Persia *are* prescriptions and cigarettes are *not* food.
She certainly does not need to be so detailed as to list them as
cigarettes,
but they should be bundled into something honest (maybe that big catchall
"miscellaneous expenditures" or even "supplies").

MaryL


They don't need line-item detail. Everyone spends money on something
they could probably do without.

You just reminded me to add a category for household items and supplies.
We all have to spend money on things like toilet paper and laundry
detergent. There are household expenses one rarely thinks about until
you're asked to put them down in writing.

I spoke with the membership chairman yesterday afternoon. He seemed
much more sympathetic to my cause than the other guy. He knew my
father. (When he realized who my dad was he actually saluted me.)

I told him I was trying to put all of this information into a
spreadsheet. Then I realized I don't know much about spreadsheets, so
can I just type this up for you? He laughed and said he wouldn't know
how to create a spreadsheet, either.

This guy will forward the information to the correct people. Now I have
to write a document of the history of my moving here. To outline the
framework for my case of not being required to be a member.

Jill

On 8/24/2012 4:40 AM, Lesley wrote:
On Aug 23, 2:00 pm, jmcquown wrote:

Persia's prescription food is exactly that: a prescription. Who is to
say who the prescription is for? See what I mean about fudging on a
spreadsheet?

Yep it goes on the spreadsheet as "prescriptions" don't need to say
who the prescription is for do you?

Nope, it is none of their business. It's a prescription, plain and simple.


When Frank Zappa was asking about his smoking he said "To me these
things are food" so add your cigarette costs into your food
expenditure


(Frank Zappa was a strange duck.) Cigarettes obviously aren't food but
they don't need that much information about my life. I'll lump it in
with Misc. Expenses.

Jill

On 8/21/2012 3:55 PM, Bobble wrote:
jmcquown wrote in news:a9hnv2FijkU1
@mid.individual.net:

I met with the President of the Board of Directors and the Membership
Director yesterday to address this ridiculous requirement of having to
be a member of "the club". (My friend and neighbor came along to
provide moral support.) This meeting is my last hope of not having to
sell the house.

I was asked to gather my financial information so my request for a
waiver of the membership requirement can be presented to the Board. No
promises, of course. At least they're willing to consider my situation.
It's not like I planned to move here. I moved here to take care of my
parents. There's no other reason I would have come here.

Since their deaths in 2008, this has become my home. I really don't
want to have to move. My last memories of my parents are in this house.
My mother died in this house. I have some very strong ties to this
place (even though I don't like golfers in my back yard and don't use
the "amenities" this membership offers.)

Anyway, the Board can issue a club membership waiver if the majority
agree I'm a "hardship" case. They were very nice people, and seemed to
understand my situation. But it's not up to one person.

I'm thinking I should give them copies of my tax returns which clearly
prove I don't have an income. Maybe also submit copies of Persia's vet
and R/x food bills. Not to mention paying the plumber and repairing the
required security system. And I keep my lawn nice and tidy, even though
I have to pay someone to do that, too.

Of course I have regular bills to pay, just like anyone else. I'm
rather fond of having food, electricity and running water. Persia and
basic necessities take priority over their club membership in my book.

I could use some purrs that I prevail in this matter.

Jill
If you don't want to sell - and at a loss these days - and really want to
stay there, by all means show them how poor you are. I would. I wouldn't
care that they know how little money I have as long as I get to stay in my
house and not have to sell it at a loss. It's to your advantage.

Bobble
If she inherited the house there would be no loss, all gain. Until she
'transferred' to another home.

Marv

On 24/08/2012 3:01 PM, Marv wrote:
On 8/21/2012 3:55 PM, Bobble wrote:
jmcquown wrote in news:a9hnv2FijkU1
@mid.individual.net:

I met with the President of the Board of Directors and the Membership
Director yesterday to address this ridiculous requirement of having to
be a member of "the club". (My friend and neighbor came along to
provide moral support.) This meeting is my last hope of not having to
sell the house.

I was asked to gather my financial information so my request for a
waiver of the membership requirement can be presented to the Board. No
promises, of course. At least they're willing to consider my situation.
It's not like I planned to move here. I moved here to take care
of my
parents. There's no other reason I would have come here.

Since their deaths in 2008, this has become my home. I really don't
want to have to move. My last memories of my parents are in this house.
My mother died in this house. I have some very strong ties to this
place (even though I don't like golfers in my back yard and don't use
the "amenities" this membership offers.)

Anyway, the Board can issue a club membership waiver if the majority
agree I'm a "hardship" case. They were very nice people, and seemed to
understand my situation. But it's not up to one person.

I'm thinking I should give them copies of my tax returns which clearly
prove I don't have an income. Maybe also submit copies of Persia's vet
and R/x food bills. Not to mention paying the plumber and repairing the
required security system. And I keep my lawn nice and tidy, even though
I have to pay someone to do that, too.

Of course I have regular bills to pay, just like anyone else. I'm
rather fond of having food, electricity and running water. Persia and
basic necessities take priority over their club membership in my book.

I could use some purrs that I prevail in this matter.

Jill
If you don't want to sell - and at a loss these days - and really want to
stay there, by all means show them how poor you are. I would. I
wouldn't
care that they know how little money I have as long as I get to stay
in my
house and not have to sell it at a loss. It's to your advantage.

Bobble
If she inherited the house there would be no loss, all gain. Until she
'transferred' to another home.

Marv

Only if she could find another suitable house for less or equal to the
amount she'll get by selling the current one, including all the extras
like moving costs. And I gather that might be a problem.

The minute she leaves that house, she's got to start paying for
somewhere else to live.

--
Cheryl

On 8/24/2012 3:32 PM, Cheryl wrote:
On 24/08/2012 3:01 PM, Marv wrote:
On 8/21/2012 3:55 PM, Bobble wrote:
jmcquown wrote in news:a9hnv2FijkU1
@mid.individual.net:

I met with the President of the Board of Directors and the Membership
Director yesterday to address this ridiculous requirement of having to
be a member of "the club". (My friend and neighbor came along to
provide moral support.) This meeting is my last hope of not having to
sell the house.

I was asked to gather my financial information so my request for a
waiver of the membership requirement can be presented to the Board. No
promises, of course. At least they're willing to consider my
situation.
It's not like I planned to move here. I moved here to take care
of my
parents. There's no other reason I would have come here.

Since their deaths in 2008, this has become my home. I really don't
want to have to move. My last memories of my parents are in this
house.
My mother died in this house. I have some very strong ties to this
place (even though I don't like golfers in my back yard and don't use
the "amenities" this membership offers.)

Anyway, the Board can issue a club membership waiver if the majority
agree I'm a "hardship" case. They were very nice people, and seemed to
understand my situation. But it's not up to one person.

I'm thinking I should give them copies of my tax returns which clearly
prove I don't have an income. Maybe also submit copies of Persia's vet
and R/x food bills. Not to mention paying the plumber and repairing
the
required security system. And I keep my lawn nice and tidy, even
though
I have to pay someone to do that, too.

Of course I have regular bills to pay, just like anyone else. I'm
rather fond of having food, electricity and running water. Persia and
basic necessities take priority over their club membership in my book.

I could use some purrs that I prevail in this matter.

Jill
If you don't want to sell - and at a loss these days - and really
want to
stay there, by all means show them how poor you are. I would. I
wouldn't
care that they know how little money I have as long as I get to stay
in my
house and not have to sell it at a loss. It's to your advantage.

Bobble
If she inherited the house there would be no loss, all gain. Until she
'transferred' to another home.

Marv

Only if she could find another suitable house for less or equal to the
amount she'll get by selling the current one, including all the extras
like moving costs. And I gather that might be a problem.

The minute she leaves that house, she's got to start paying for
somewhere else to live.

What amazes me is some people believe inheriting a house somehow makes
it "free". Uh, no. Property taxes, home owners insurance, flood and
wind/hail riders on the policy. Things break and need to be repaired.

I can't buy another house until I sell this one. That would put me in a
bit of a time crunch to find a place where Persia and I would feel
comfortable.

Jill