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enlightened us with... My kids would know better. I certainly did. Kids only know what their parents bother to teach them. Small children incapable of knowing how to treat an animal shouldn't be around them unsupervised. I wasn't. A kid doesn't have to be unsupervised to get bit. It only takes seconds. I suppose. I can't say never. I can only say in my whole life, family, friends, and experience, I've never seen it happen. I'm talking tha family pet, not those horrible dog attacks in the news or something. Your pity should be reserved for your own kids if they don't have a parent who cares enough to teach them how to respect animals. It is for their own safety as much as for the animals. If you don't know that by now, there's nothing I can do for you. I never said it was ok for kids to mistreat animals. Why do you insist on an either/or scenario? If a kid hurts an animal, they should be corrected. But not by the animal. The animal is not the disciplinarian. There's a whole list of other ways the animal can react. They should never be allowed to hurt a child. And I never said the animal was the disciplinarian. I said one should expect to get injured if one injures the family pet. In fact, I specifically said parents need to teach their children how to act around pets, and as far as I'm concerned, that includes discipline for being rough. If the kid is too rough and gets nipped or scratched, well, he just learned a valuable lesson. Cause and effect. Has nothing to do with discipline. Note: I'm not talking about a pet attacking the kid, here. I'm talking reflexive action, not deliberate malice. If I had an animal I thought was aggressive or might hurt my child, that animal would never be near my child. ------------------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ Why do people who know the least know it the loudest? If that cell phone was up your a$$, maybe you could drive a little better! http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace ------------------------------------------------- |
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enlightened us with... Thank you for the links. I'll pass them on to sis... In the meantime, he gets warm formula. ;-) Maybe he is spoiled, but that's ok for now. LOL I was a very spoiled child myself. *g* ------------------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ Why do people who know the least know it the loudest? If that cell phone was up your a$$, maybe you could drive a little better! http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace ------------------------------------------------- |
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enlightened us with... Thank you for the links. I'll pass them on to sis... In the meantime, he gets warm formula. ;-) Maybe he is spoiled, but that's ok for now. LOL I was a very spoiled child myself. *g* ------------------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ Why do people who know the least know it the loudest? If that cell phone was up your a$$, maybe you could drive a little better! http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace ------------------------------------------------- |
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enlightened us with... Funny how you missed the entire point below. The post had nothing to do with why people give up cats - I said there are already declawed cats at shelters if you want one. You don't need to mutilate one that has its claws. Then why is the number of declawed cats at the shelter "funny"? If you have such comprehension problems, I give up. If you disagree with a point, do try to counter-point with something relevant, eh? I did. You might want to try paying closer attention. You might try actually making one. Forget it. ------------------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ Why do people who know the least know it the loudest? If that cell phone was up your a$$, maybe you could drive a little better! http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace ------------------------------------------------- |
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enlightened us with... Funny how you missed the entire point below. The post had nothing to do with why people give up cats - I said there are already declawed cats at shelters if you want one. You don't need to mutilate one that has its claws. Then why is the number of declawed cats at the shelter "funny"? If you have such comprehension problems, I give up. If you disagree with a point, do try to counter-point with something relevant, eh? I did. You might want to try paying closer attention. You might try actually making one. Forget it. ------------------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ Why do people who know the least know it the loudest? If that cell phone was up your a$$, maybe you could drive a little better! http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace ------------------------------------------------- |
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enlightened us with... Yeah, but "wrong is wrong" is a morality issue. That is a subjective issue with no proofs, thus you really can't convince someone of it. Kind of like all sensitive topics, including eating meat, abortion, religion, etc, everyone has their own views. When trying to argue for a particular view, it is generally easier to convince someone of something when you give them facts and when you use an argument involving cultural similarity. However, the cultural similarity issue was completely lost on many of the participants. Yeah, but there are some universal truths. Like murder and maiming are just wrong. I don't buy the "everything is perception" cop out. That's okay, you don't have to. I'm not even getting started on this topic. I'd never get any work done. *G* ------------------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ Why do people who know the least know it the loudest? If that cell phone was up your a$$, maybe you could drive a little better! http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace ------------------------------------------------- |
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In article ,
enlightened us with... Yeah, but "wrong is wrong" is a morality issue. That is a subjective issue with no proofs, thus you really can't convince someone of it. Kind of like all sensitive topics, including eating meat, abortion, religion, etc, everyone has their own views. When trying to argue for a particular view, it is generally easier to convince someone of something when you give them facts and when you use an argument involving cultural similarity. However, the cultural similarity issue was completely lost on many of the participants. Yeah, but there are some universal truths. Like murder and maiming are just wrong. I don't buy the "everything is perception" cop out. That's okay, you don't have to. I'm not even getting started on this topic. I'd never get any work done. *G* ------------------------------------------------- ~kaeli~ Why do people who know the least know it the loudest? If that cell phone was up your a$$, maybe you could drive a little better! http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace ------------------------------------------------- |
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Relish wrote: Alison Smiley Perera wrote: In article , Relish wrote: Careful, Alison in OH, I did not write that post. My apologies, should have been attributed to kaeli. |
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Relish wrote: Alison Smiley Perera wrote: In article , Relish wrote: Careful, Alison in OH, I did not write that post. My apologies, should have been attributed to kaeli. |
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