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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" dumped this in
on 10 Apr 2004: As man encroaches more and more upon their territory, the wild critters become bolder (if survival means a change of diet from their natural prey, they'll adapt). I shudder to think what the area I live in would be like if we had coyote, cougar, etc. Housing is becoming such a shortage that every piece of land is being bought up and houses built with as many in that small space as they can fit. Practically no lots at all; you'd probably get a good look from your window into your neighbors window. As a result of this, the deer are really having a hard time and it isn't unusual to see many right out in the open at any given time of the day. One of the [many!] things that bothers me about so many homes being built in places that used to be wooded lots is that each of those homeowners is going to have a lawn (ok, a small one). They're going to want it to look nice. More over-use of fertalizers and other chemicals where there used to be wildlife and a natural blanket of moss, leaves and composing tree branches. Yeesh, I didn't mean to turn that into a rant. :-| -- Cheryl |
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" dumped this in
on 10 Apr 2004: As man encroaches more and more upon their territory, the wild critters become bolder (if survival means a change of diet from their natural prey, they'll adapt). I shudder to think what the area I live in would be like if we had coyote, cougar, etc. Housing is becoming such a shortage that every piece of land is being bought up and houses built with as many in that small space as they can fit. Practically no lots at all; you'd probably get a good look from your window into your neighbors window. As a result of this, the deer are really having a hard time and it isn't unusual to see many right out in the open at any given time of the day. One of the [many!] things that bothers me about so many homes being built in places that used to be wooded lots is that each of those homeowners is going to have a lawn (ok, a small one). They're going to want it to look nice. More over-use of fertalizers and other chemicals where there used to be wildlife and a natural blanket of moss, leaves and composing tree branches. Yeesh, I didn't mean to turn that into a rant. :-| -- Cheryl |
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"Karen Chuplis" wrote...
I have been told several times that feral cats are such a problem in the Dakotas that they are supposed to be destroyed if some specified distance from a building. I'm from SD and never heard that. I've never even seen that many. Odd. Thanks for the response. I will correct my stance. On a hike near Rapid City several years ago the guide mentioned plinking at ferals as a duty. My owner, Cat, will not take live food. Her predecessor, Damit, found a way to open the finch cage. |
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"Karen Chuplis" wrote...
I have been told several times that feral cats are such a problem in the Dakotas that they are supposed to be destroyed if some specified distance from a building. I'm from SD and never heard that. I've never even seen that many. Odd. Thanks for the response. I will correct my stance. On a hike near Rapid City several years ago the guide mentioned plinking at ferals as a duty. My owner, Cat, will not take live food. Her predecessor, Damit, found a way to open the finch cage. |
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 13:20:29 -0500, "CaptCook" wrote:
I have been told several times that feral cats are such a problem in the Dakotas that they are supposed to be destroyed if some specified distance from a building. They have caused great destruction in Hawaii according to conservationists. There is no danger of cats becoming endangered. And no excuse for allowing them outside. That being said, my pet of preference is a cat. Ahem. There is "allowing them outside" and "allowing them outside". Cats can be allowed to experience the great outdoors in various ways short of opening the door and allowing them to roam freely. For example, my two have a patio with cat-proof fencing that they go out in for lazy weekend afternoons, and they are both trained to harness for walks outside when we are all feeling more adventuresome. Yes, there is still some risk to the cat, especially from such things as hawks, coyotes, and dogs, but I figure with a human near by it makes the risk tolerable. There are shades of gray to this... it's not strictly cats do anything they please or cat never sticks his nose past the door. Rebecca |
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 13:20:29 -0500, "CaptCook" wrote:
I have been told several times that feral cats are such a problem in the Dakotas that they are supposed to be destroyed if some specified distance from a building. They have caused great destruction in Hawaii according to conservationists. There is no danger of cats becoming endangered. And no excuse for allowing them outside. That being said, my pet of preference is a cat. Ahem. There is "allowing them outside" and "allowing them outside". Cats can be allowed to experience the great outdoors in various ways short of opening the door and allowing them to roam freely. For example, my two have a patio with cat-proof fencing that they go out in for lazy weekend afternoons, and they are both trained to harness for walks outside when we are all feeling more adventuresome. Yes, there is still some risk to the cat, especially from such things as hawks, coyotes, and dogs, but I figure with a human near by it makes the risk tolerable. There are shades of gray to this... it's not strictly cats do anything they please or cat never sticks his nose past the door. Rebecca |
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In article , wrote:
Ahem. There is "allowing them outside" and "allowing them outside". Cats can be allowed to experience the great outdoors in various ways short of opening the door and allowing them to roam freely. For example, my two have a patio with cat-proof fencing that they go out in for lazy weekend afternoons, and they are both trained to harness for walks outside when we are all feeling more adventuresome. Yes, there is still some risk to the cat, especially from such things as hawks, coyotes, and dogs, but I figure with a human near by it makes the risk tolerable. There are shades of gray to this... it's not strictly cats do anything they please or cat never sticks his nose past the door. If that works for you, fine. I couldn't rig our back yard in that fashion (particularly since it's a rented house). Our cats are trained to wear harnesses, but they won't go for walks on them; they'll either sit-down-strike and have to be dragged or carried, or they'll do their best to drag the human into an interesting bush or such (so long as we outweigh them, this doesn't work). Other than when we take one to an SCA event, our cats never stick their noses past the door without great hubbub ensuing. The last time this happened was a couple months ago: Louhi for some reason saw a briefly open front door and made a mad dash through it, ending up under the parked car. We grabbed flashlights and surrounded the car, coaxing and chivvying and swearing. After about five minutes she made a break for it, straight *up* the stairs to the front door, where she sat meowing pitifully to be let back in. Dorothy J. Heydt Albany, California |
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In article , wrote:
Ahem. There is "allowing them outside" and "allowing them outside". Cats can be allowed to experience the great outdoors in various ways short of opening the door and allowing them to roam freely. For example, my two have a patio with cat-proof fencing that they go out in for lazy weekend afternoons, and they are both trained to harness for walks outside when we are all feeling more adventuresome. Yes, there is still some risk to the cat, especially from such things as hawks, coyotes, and dogs, but I figure with a human near by it makes the risk tolerable. There are shades of gray to this... it's not strictly cats do anything they please or cat never sticks his nose past the door. If that works for you, fine. I couldn't rig our back yard in that fashion (particularly since it's a rented house). Our cats are trained to wear harnesses, but they won't go for walks on them; they'll either sit-down-strike and have to be dragged or carried, or they'll do their best to drag the human into an interesting bush or such (so long as we outweigh them, this doesn't work). Other than when we take one to an SCA event, our cats never stick their noses past the door without great hubbub ensuing. The last time this happened was a couple months ago: Louhi for some reason saw a briefly open front door and made a mad dash through it, ending up under the parked car. We grabbed flashlights and surrounded the car, coaxing and chivvying and swearing. After about five minutes she made a break for it, straight *up* the stairs to the front door, where she sat meowing pitifully to be let back in. Dorothy J. Heydt Albany, California |
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