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  #21  
Old October 9th 09, 03:12 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
MLB[_2_]
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Default Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:27:41 -0700, cl wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests.
The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the
stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has
had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all
the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix

Here is the problem in detail.

Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years
simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to
date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin
of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus.

Anyone have an idea?

If you have a dishwasher all of their food and water bowls should be
washed in it immediately and done regularly until this goes away. If you
do not have a dishwaster you should use paper food and water bowls in
the mean time. Also the contents of their litter boxes should be dumped
and replaced now - one cat might have infected the others. Did you just
change or just start using a new brand or bag of food? I presume that
they all eat different food since they are different ages? Or do they
all eat the same food? Is it canned food, dry or both? It sounds like
some widespread contaminated has occurred. Have you cleaned a floor,
mopped, or used a different cleaning product lately? Something has
caused this since all fives cats have stopped eating at the same time.
It really sounds like poisoning.



The blood test is in and the only problem is "Moderately toxic
neutrophyls with no neutrophilia suggests acute tissue demand for
neutrophils". which indicates some kind of infection. I could have
unknowingly tracked in a bacteria, but how do all the cats get sick at
once?




The big question right now is how are they doing?
I do not have any idea how that could happen and it is very strange that
they all got sick at the same time. I would think it would have to be
airborne or fed the same thing. Purrs for you and the cats that the
mystery can be solved. Best wishes. MLB
  #22  
Old October 9th 09, 03:19 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
John Ross Mc Master
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Posts: 2,125
Default Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:12:29 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:27:41 -0700, cl wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests.
The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the
stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has
had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all
the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix

Here is the problem in detail.

Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years
simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to
date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin
of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus.

Anyone have an idea?
If you have a dishwasher all of their food and water bowls should be
washed in it immediately and done regularly until this goes away. If you
do not have a dishwaster you should use paper food and water bowls in
the mean time. Also the contents of their litter boxes should be dumped
and replaced now - one cat might have infected the others. Did you just
change or just start using a new brand or bag of food? I presume that
they all eat different food since they are different ages? Or do they
all eat the same food? Is it canned food, dry or both? It sounds like
some widespread contaminated has occurred. Have you cleaned a floor,
mopped, or used a different cleaning product lately? Something has
caused this since all fives cats have stopped eating at the same time.
It really sounds like poisoning.



The blood test is in and the only problem is "Moderately toxic
neutrophyls with no neutrophilia suggests acute tissue demand for
neutrophils". which indicates some kind of infection. I could have
unknowingly tracked in a bacteria, but how do all the cats get sick at
once?




The big question right now is how are they doing?
I do not have any idea how that could happen and it is very strange that
they all got sick at the same time. I would think it would have to be
airborne or fed the same thing. Purrs for you and the cats that the
mystery can be solved. Best wishes. MLB


Airborne is possible. We have tomcats in the neighborhood outside. But
at no time were they ever fed the same thing.
  #23  
Old October 9th 09, 04:59 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Matthew[_3_]
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Default Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick


"John Ross Mc Master" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:12:29 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:27:41 -0700, cl wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests.
The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the
stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has
had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all
the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix

Here is the problem in detail.

Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years
simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to
date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin
of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus.

Anyone have an idea?
If you have a dishwasher all of their food and water bowls should be
washed in it immediately and done regularly until this goes away. If
you
do not have a dishwaster you should use paper food and water bowls in
the mean time. Also the contents of their litter boxes should be dumped
and replaced now - one cat might have infected the others. Did you just
change or just start using a new brand or bag of food? I presume that
they all eat different food since they are different ages? Or do they
all eat the same food? Is it canned food, dry or both? It sounds like
some widespread contaminated has occurred. Have you cleaned a floor,
mopped, or used a different cleaning product lately? Something has
caused this since all fives cats have stopped eating at the same time.
It really sounds like poisoning.


The blood test is in and the only problem is "Moderately toxic
neutrophyls with no neutrophilia suggests acute tissue demand for
neutrophils". which indicates some kind of infection. I could have
unknowingly tracked in a bacteria, but how do all the cats get sick at
once?




The big question right now is how are they doing?
I do not have any idea how that could happen and it is very strange that
they all got sick at the same time. I would think it would have to be
airborne or fed the same thing. Purrs for you and the cats that the
mystery can be solved. Best wishes. MLB


Airborne is possible. We have tomcats in the neighborhood outside. But
at no time were they ever fed the same thing.


Gatorade will help also if you are using a syringe to make them eat



John Here is a terrible question to ask. Do you have someone that has
entered the house or lives in the house or has come to the house that
could have done this. I am being blunt no offense to anyone but do you
have kids in the house ,a partner or ex partner that could be a bad seed in
short terms of typing this out. It is a bad thing to ask but I am going to
all ends there could be

Also about tracking this in have you been to a shelter in the last 60 days
or been to a place where medical products are used

5 cats DON'T show signs all at once from a parasitic, viral or bacteria
infection. Symptoms occur differently in all animals and people. One will
show it than the others very quickly

Something has to be a catalytic factor here. Walk outside to the front of
your house think like a child what looks wrong here and go inside and work
your way up. Eliminate factors I am thinking poisoning of some sort
until the stool samples and blood work show something than you have to go
with worse case scenario.

as for the dishes take no chances I am sorry dishwashing them will do CRAP
for a infection or infectious agent but spread it to other dishes hot water
is not a cleaning solution only BLEACH is. Take any plastic dishes throw
them out if you have washed them soaked the stuff that was with them in
bleach than clean them again. AND throw out any plastic containers that
held their food

John you said the water is filter and pure have you had it tested any
water treatment place will test it for free. It might be healthy for us but
not them it might have a higher content of a mineral that the human body and
take but not a feline. And I know you responded to this question already
but just because there has been no reported spills or problems does not mean
there isn't one there. FYI the average drinking water in America has less
than .001% of prescription drugs ( I think that is a correct %) in it from
people flushing their drugs and the run off seeping back in

the info is a little old but it may help
as for the mosquitoes
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/west..._dogs_cats.htm

http://www.cfsph.iastate.edu/BRM/res...eMarch2005.pdf
http://pets.plj.com/news/top-cat-health-concerns-in
http://www.zoologix.com/dogcat/Datas...tNileVirus.htm





  #24  
Old October 9th 09, 05:26 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
John Ross Mc Master
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Default Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick

On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:59:46 -0400, "Matthew"
wrote:


"John Ross Mc Master" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:12:29 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:27:41 -0700, cl wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests.
The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the
stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has
had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all
the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix

Here is the problem in detail.

Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years
simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to
date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin
of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus.

Anyone have an idea?
If you have a dishwasher all of their food and water bowls should be
washed in it immediately and done regularly until this goes away. If
you
do not have a dishwaster you should use paper food and water bowls in
the mean time. Also the contents of their litter boxes should be dumped
and replaced now - one cat might have infected the others. Did you just
change or just start using a new brand or bag of food? I presume that
they all eat different food since they are different ages? Or do they
all eat the same food? Is it canned food, dry or both? It sounds like
some widespread contaminated has occurred. Have you cleaned a floor,
mopped, or used a different cleaning product lately? Something has
caused this since all fives cats have stopped eating at the same time.
It really sounds like poisoning.


The blood test is in and the only problem is "Moderately toxic
neutrophyls with no neutrophilia suggests acute tissue demand for
neutrophils". which indicates some kind of infection. I could have
unknowingly tracked in a bacteria, but how do all the cats get sick at
once?



The big question right now is how are they doing?
I do not have any idea how that could happen and it is very strange that
they all got sick at the same time. I would think it would have to be
airborne or fed the same thing. Purrs for you and the cats that the
mystery can be solved. Best wishes. MLB


Airborne is possible. We have tomcats in the neighborhood outside. But
at no time were they ever fed the same thing.


Gatorade will help also if you are using a syringe to make them eat



John Here is a terrible question to ask. Do you have someone that has
entered the house or lives in the house or has come to the house that
could have done this. I am being blunt no offense to anyone but do you
have kids in the house ,a partner or ex partner that could be a bad seed in
short terms of typing this out. It is a bad thing to ask but I am going to
all ends there could be

Also about tracking this in have you been to a shelter in the last 60 days
or been to a place where medical products are used

5 cats DON'T show signs all at once from a parasitic, viral or bacteria
infection. Symptoms occur differently in all animals and people. One will
show it than the others very quickly

Something has to be a catalytic factor here. Walk outside to the front of
your house think like a child what looks wrong here and go inside and work
your way up. Eliminate factors I am thinking poisoning of some sort
until the stool samples and blood work show something than you have to go
with worse case scenario.

as for the dishes take no chances I am sorry dishwashing them will do CRAP
for a infection or infectious agent but spread it to other dishes hot water
is not a cleaning solution only BLEACH is. Take any plastic dishes throw
them out if you have washed them soaked the stuff that was with them in
bleach than clean them again. AND throw out any plastic containers that
held their food

John you said the water is filter and pure have you had it tested any
water treatment place will test it for free. It might be healthy for us but
not them it might have a higher content of a mineral that the human body and
take but not a feline. And I know you responded to this question already
but just because there has been no reported spills or problems does not mean
there isn't one there. FYI the average drinking water in America has less
than .001% of prescription drugs ( I think that is a correct %) in it from
people flushing their drugs and the run off seeping back in

the info is a little old but it may help
as for the mosquitoes
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/west..._dogs_cats.htm

http://www.cfsph.iastate.edu/BRM/res...eMarch2005.pdf
http://pets.plj.com/news/top-cat-health-concerns-in
http://www.zoologix.com/dogcat/Datas...tNileVirus.htm





Nobody did thids deliberately. Yes, I have been in a shelter the last
60 days. I washed with an antiseptic gel every time I left a room. A
place where medical products are used? I had an operation last month.

The water here is really, really good. Nobody lives uphill of the
water source and nothing can leach into the water because there is no
industry, agriculture or people up there except the Sasquatch. No
other cats in town have this that I've heard of, and I would have
heard something.

I'll try to rethink everything like a child. Haven't tried that yet.
  #25  
Old October 9th 09, 06:12 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
MLB[_2_]
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Posts: 2,298
Default Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:12:29 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:27:41 -0700, cl wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests.
The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the
stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has
had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all
the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix

Here is the problem in detail.

Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years
simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to
date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin
of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus.

Anyone have an idea?
If you have a dishwasher all of their food and water bowls should be
washed in it immediately and done regularly until this goes away. If you
do not have a dishwaster you should use paper food and water bowls in
the mean time. Also the contents of their litter boxes should be dumped
and replaced now - one cat might have infected the others. Did you just
change or just start using a new brand or bag of food? I presume that
they all eat different food since they are different ages? Or do they
all eat the same food? Is it canned food, dry or both? It sounds like
some widespread contaminated has occurred. Have you cleaned a floor,
mopped, or used a different cleaning product lately? Something has
caused this since all fives cats have stopped eating at the same time.
It really sounds like poisoning.

The blood test is in and the only problem is "Moderately toxic
neutrophyls with no neutrophilia suggests acute tissue demand for
neutrophils". which indicates some kind of infection. I could have
unknowingly tracked in a bacteria, but how do all the cats get sick at
once?



The big question right now is how are they doing?
I do not have any idea how that could happen and it is very strange that
they all got sick at the same time. I would think it would have to be
airborne or fed the same thing. Purrs for you and the cats that the
mystery can be solved. Best wishes. MLB


Airborne is possible. We have tomcats in the neighborhood outside. But
at no time were they ever fed the same thing.



I know you dismissed the possibility of carbon monoxide, but it might be
a good idea to have your heating/ventilation system checked. Do you
remember hearing the old stories of "canaries in the coal mine"?
Removing the cats to another environment would have cleared it from
their bodies. And yes -- how are they doing? MLB
  #26  
Old October 9th 09, 07:43 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
cyberpurrs
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Default Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick


"John Ross Mc Master" wrote

I'll try to rethink everything like a child. Haven't tried that yet.


I think Matthew's advice is sound and wise.
  #27  
Old October 9th 09, 02:42 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
Matthew[_3_]
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Default Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick


"John Ross Mc Master" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:59:46 -0400, "Matthew"
wrote:


"John Ross Mc Master" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:12:29 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:27:41 -0700, cl wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests.
The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and
the
stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else
has
had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all
the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix

Here is the problem in detail.

Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years
simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up
to
date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a
toxin
of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus.

Anyone have an idea?
If you have a dishwasher all of their food and water bowls should be
washed in it immediately and done regularly until this goes away. If
you
do not have a dishwaster you should use paper food and water bowls in
the mean time. Also the contents of their litter boxes should be
dumped
and replaced now - one cat might have infected the others. Did you
just
change or just start using a new brand or bag of food? I presume that
they all eat different food since they are different ages? Or do they
all eat the same food? Is it canned food, dry or both? It sounds like
some widespread contaminated has occurred. Have you cleaned a floor,
mopped, or used a different cleaning product lately? Something has
caused this since all fives cats have stopped eating at the same
time.
It really sounds like poisoning.


The blood test is in and the only problem is "Moderately toxic
neutrophyls with no neutrophilia suggests acute tissue demand for
neutrophils". which indicates some kind of infection. I could have
unknowingly tracked in a bacteria, but how do all the cats get sick at
once?



The big question right now is how are they doing?
I do not have any idea how that could happen and it is very strange that
they all got sick at the same time. I would think it would have to be
airborne or fed the same thing. Purrs for you and the cats that the
mystery can be solved. Best wishes. MLB

Airborne is possible. We have tomcats in the neighborhood outside. But
at no time were they ever fed the same thing.


Gatorade will help also if you are using a syringe to make them eat



John Here is a terrible question to ask. Do you have someone that has
entered the house or lives in the house or has come to the house that
could have done this. I am being blunt no offense to anyone but do you
have kids in the house ,a partner or ex partner that could be a bad seed
in
short terms of typing this out. It is a bad thing to ask but I am going
to
all ends there could be

Also about tracking this in have you been to a shelter in the last 60
days
or been to a place where medical products are used

5 cats DON'T show signs all at once from a parasitic, viral or bacteria
infection. Symptoms occur differently in all animals and people. One will
show it than the others very quickly

Something has to be a catalytic factor here. Walk outside to the front of
your house think like a child what looks wrong here and go inside and
work
your way up. Eliminate factors I am thinking poisoning of some sort
until the stool samples and blood work show something than you have to go
with worse case scenario.

as for the dishes take no chances I am sorry dishwashing them will do
CRAP
for a infection or infectious agent but spread it to other dishes hot
water
is not a cleaning solution only BLEACH is. Take any plastic dishes throw
them out if you have washed them soaked the stuff that was with them in
bleach than clean them again. AND throw out any plastic containers that
held their food

John you said the water is filter and pure have you had it tested any
water treatment place will test it for free. It might be healthy for us
but
not them it might have a higher content of a mineral that the human body
and
take but not a feline. And I know you responded to this question already
but just because there has been no reported spills or problems does not
mean
there isn't one there. FYI the average drinking water in America has
less
than .001% of prescription drugs ( I think that is a correct %) in it from
people flushing their drugs and the run off seeping back in

the info is a little old but it may help
as for the mosquitoes
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/west..._dogs_cats.htm

http://www.cfsph.iastate.edu/BRM/res...eMarch2005.pdf
http://pets.plj.com/news/top-cat-health-concerns-in
http://www.zoologix.com/dogcat/Datas...tNileVirus.htm





Nobody did thids deliberately. Yes, I have been in a shelter the last
60 days. I washed with an antiseptic gel every time I left a room. A
place where medical products are used? I had an operation last month.


I had to ask if someone did. I know we never want to think ill will of
family or friends. But I am looking at all possibilities


Where you wearing booties and change your clothes when you left the room
or were you wearing a protective clothing. If not check with the shelter
with any problems they had

Operating room I would not really worry about I was thinking if you were
near a lab or something like that maybe being accidentally contaminated


The water here is really, really good. Nobody lives uphill of the
water source and nothing can leach into the water because there is no
industry, agriculture or people up there except the Sasquatch. No
other cats in town have this that I've heard of, and I would have
heard something.


YOU ARE NOT CATCHNG MY POINT NOT THE WATER SOURCE YOUR WATER
It could be from pipes if you have an older house. You could have a break
in your pipe allowing seeping in


I'll try to rethink everything like a child. Haven't tried that yet.


Got a friend that is smart have them help look at it from a outside point
of view


  #28  
Old October 9th 09, 02:59 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
John Ross Mc Master
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Posts: 2,125
Default Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick

On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:42:18 -0400, "Matthew"
wrote:


"John Ross Mc Master" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 23:59:46 -0400, "Matthew"
wrote:


"John Ross Mc Master" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:12:29 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:27:41 -0700, cl wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests.
The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and
the
stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else
has
had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all
the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix

Here is the problem in detail.

Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years
simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up
to
date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a
toxin
of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus.

Anyone have an idea?
If you have a dishwasher all of their food and water bowls should be
washed in it immediately and done regularly until this goes away. If
you
do not have a dishwaster you should use paper food and water bowls in
the mean time. Also the contents of their litter boxes should be
dumped
and replaced now - one cat might have infected the others. Did you
just
change or just start using a new brand or bag of food? I presume that
they all eat different food since they are different ages? Or do they
all eat the same food? Is it canned food, dry or both? It sounds like
some widespread contaminated has occurred. Have you cleaned a floor,
mopped, or used a different cleaning product lately? Something has
caused this since all fives cats have stopped eating at the same
time.
It really sounds like poisoning.


The blood test is in and the only problem is "Moderately toxic
neutrophyls with no neutrophilia suggests acute tissue demand for
neutrophils". which indicates some kind of infection. I could have
unknowingly tracked in a bacteria, but how do all the cats get sick at
once?



The big question right now is how are they doing?
I do not have any idea how that could happen and it is very strange that
they all got sick at the same time. I would think it would have to be
airborne or fed the same thing. Purrs for you and the cats that the
mystery can be solved. Best wishes. MLB

Airborne is possible. We have tomcats in the neighborhood outside. But
at no time were they ever fed the same thing.

Gatorade will help also if you are using a syringe to make them eat



John Here is a terrible question to ask. Do you have someone that has
entered the house or lives in the house or has come to the house that
could have done this. I am being blunt no offense to anyone but do you
have kids in the house ,a partner or ex partner that could be a bad seed
in
short terms of typing this out. It is a bad thing to ask but I am going
to
all ends there could be

Also about tracking this in have you been to a shelter in the last 60
days
or been to a place where medical products are used

5 cats DON'T show signs all at once from a parasitic, viral or bacteria
infection. Symptoms occur differently in all animals and people. One will
show it than the others very quickly

Something has to be a catalytic factor here. Walk outside to the front of
your house think like a child what looks wrong here and go inside and
work
your way up. Eliminate factors I am thinking poisoning of some sort
until the stool samples and blood work show something than you have to go
with worse case scenario.

as for the dishes take no chances I am sorry dishwashing them will do
CRAP
for a infection or infectious agent but spread it to other dishes hot
water
is not a cleaning solution only BLEACH is. Take any plastic dishes throw
them out if you have washed them soaked the stuff that was with them in
bleach than clean them again. AND throw out any plastic containers that
held their food

John you said the water is filter and pure have you had it tested any
water treatment place will test it for free. It might be healthy for us
but
not them it might have a higher content of a mineral that the human body
and
take but not a feline. And I know you responded to this question already
but just because there has been no reported spills or problems does not
mean
there isn't one there. FYI the average drinking water in America has
less
than .001% of prescription drugs ( I think that is a correct %) in it from
people flushing their drugs and the run off seeping back in

the info is a little old but it may help
as for the mosquitoes
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/west..._dogs_cats.htm

http://www.cfsph.iastate.edu/BRM/res...eMarch2005.pdf
http://pets.plj.com/news/top-cat-health-concerns-in
http://www.zoologix.com/dogcat/Datas...tNileVirus.htm





Nobody did thids deliberately. Yes, I have been in a shelter the last
60 days. I washed with an antiseptic gel every time I left a room. A
place where medical products are used? I had an operation last month.


I had to ask if someone did. I know we never want to think ill will of
family or friends. But I am looking at all possibilities


Where you wearing booties and change your clothes when you left the room
or were you wearing a protective clothing. If not check with the shelter
with any problems they had

Operating room I would not really worry about I was thinking if you were
near a lab or something like that maybe being accidentally contaminated


The water here is really, really good. Nobody lives uphill of the
water source and nothing can leach into the water because there is no
industry, agriculture or people up there except the Sasquatch. No
other cats in town have this that I've heard of, and I would have
heard something.


YOU ARE NOT CATCHNG MY POINT NOT THE WATER SOURCE YOUR WATER
It could be from pipes if you have an older house. You could have a break
in your pipe allowing seeping in


I'll try to rethink everything like a child. Haven't tried that yet.


Got a friend that is smart have them help look at it from a outside point
of view

  #29  
Old October 9th 09, 03:02 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
John Ross Mc Master
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Default Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:12:13 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:12:29 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:27:41 -0700, cl wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests.
The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the
stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has
had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all
the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix

Here is the problem in detail.

Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years
simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to
date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin
of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus.

Anyone have an idea?
If you have a dishwasher all of their food and water bowls should be
washed in it immediately and done regularly until this goes away. If you
do not have a dishwaster you should use paper food and water bowls in
the mean time. Also the contents of their litter boxes should be dumped
and replaced now - one cat might have infected the others. Did you just
change or just start using a new brand or bag of food? I presume that
they all eat different food since they are different ages? Or do they
all eat the same food? Is it canned food, dry or both? It sounds like
some widespread contaminated has occurred. Have you cleaned a floor,
mopped, or used a different cleaning product lately? Something has
caused this since all fives cats have stopped eating at the same time.
It really sounds like poisoning.

The blood test is in and the only problem is "Moderately toxic
neutrophyls with no neutrophilia suggests acute tissue demand for
neutrophils". which indicates some kind of infection. I could have
unknowingly tracked in a bacteria, but how do all the cats get sick at
once?


The big question right now is how are they doing?
I do not have any idea how that could happen and it is very strange that
they all got sick at the same time. I would think it would have to be
airborne or fed the same thing. Purrs for you and the cats that the
mystery can be solved. Best wishes. MLB


Airborne is possible. We have tomcats in the neighborhood outside. But
at no time were they ever fed the same thing.



I know you dismissed the possibility of carbon monoxide, but it might be
a good idea to have your heating/ventilation system checked. Do you
remember hearing the old stories of "canaries in the coal mine"?
Removing the cats to another environment would have cleared it from
their bodies. And yes -- how are they doing? MLB


They seem to mbe getting a bit better. The youngest first. The three
youngest all had bowel movements, one normal.

The two oldest ones are not doing well. Off to vet #2 in 25 minutes.
  #30  
Old October 9th 09, 03:19 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
MLB[_2_]
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Default Ping Phil All the cats in the house are sick

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:12:13 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:12:29 -0600, MLB wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:27:41 -0700, cl wrote:

John Ross Mc Master wrote:
They have been to a vet and he's running blood and stool tests.
The vet doesn't have a clue yet. I get the blood results today and the
stool tests in 5 days. I'm posting here to discover if anyone else has
had the problem. I am syringing chicken broth down their thoats all
the time as well as antibiotics and a high calorie vitamin mix

Here is the problem in detail.

Five healthy cats ranging in age from 10 months to 11 years
simultaneously stopped eating and drinking. They are indoor cats up to
date with their shots. They were not poisoned, did not ingest a toxin
of any kind. This has to be a bacteria, protazoa or virus.

Anyone have an idea?
If you have a dishwasher all of their food and water bowls should be
washed in it immediately and done regularly until this goes away. If you
do not have a dishwaster you should use paper food and water bowls in
the mean time. Also the contents of their litter boxes should be dumped
and replaced now - one cat might have infected the others. Did you just
change or just start using a new brand or bag of food? I presume that
they all eat different food since they are different ages? Or do they
all eat the same food? Is it canned food, dry or both? It sounds like
some widespread contaminated has occurred. Have you cleaned a floor,
mopped, or used a different cleaning product lately? Something has
caused this since all fives cats have stopped eating at the same time.
It really sounds like poisoning.
The blood test is in and the only problem is "Moderately toxic
neutrophyls with no neutrophilia suggests acute tissue demand for
neutrophils". which indicates some kind of infection. I could have
unknowingly tracked in a bacteria, but how do all the cats get sick at
once?

The big question right now is how are they doing?
I do not have any idea how that could happen and it is very strange that
they all got sick at the same time. I would think it would have to be
airborne or fed the same thing. Purrs for you and the cats that the
mystery can be solved. Best wishes. MLB
Airborne is possible. We have tomcats in the neighborhood outside. But
at no time were they ever fed the same thing.


I know you dismissed the possibility of carbon monoxide, but it might be
a good idea to have your heating/ventilation system checked. Do you
remember hearing the old stories of "canaries in the coal mine"?
Removing the cats to another environment would have cleared it from
their bodies. And yes -- how are they doing? MLB


They seem to mbe getting a bit better. The youngest first. The three
youngest all had bowel movements, one normal.

The two oldest ones are not doing well. Off to vet #2 in 25 minutes.




Matthew's point about looking outside8de made me wonder if it were
possible one of those trucks that are used by carpet cleaners could have
been working near where the fumes could seep into the house?
I remember one time where I worked, trucks would sometimes park in the
back alley and leave their engines running. The exhaust fumes would
then get into the ventilation system and come into our building . We
were on the 4th floor and fumes do rise. Trucks in the alley were
eventually not permitted in the alley.

Sending purrs that all kitties will recover and that you can figure this
out == it must be hard on you. Best wishes. MLB
 




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