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  #21  
Old February 18th 07, 05:51 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.rescue
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Default Cat at my rescue is sick I need donations!

Just because they put up a web site doesn't mean that her rescue is
legitimate. I'm not sure what the laws are in Canada but if they are similar
to the United States then she will need to file as a non-profit and pretty
much file the right paperwork in order to become legal. Here are a few sites
that she might want to read.

http://www.charityvillage.com/cv/guides/guide4.asp
http://www.managementhelp.org/strt_o...np/strt_np.htm

While her wanting to rescue cats is noble she really should file the
necessary documents in order to be listed and become a legal non-profit.
Without doing that, she's going to have a lot of people question her group's
existance when they ask for her non-profit tax ID or filing status number.

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"John Ross Mc Master" wrote in message
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On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:54:52 -0600, William Hamblen

Didn't you see her web site? She's in Canada. The IRS is an alien
organization. Foreign laws do not apply in Canada. She is breaking no
Canadian law. She is young and naive, but honestly rescuing cats.
Anybody can ask for money. You don't need charitable status to do so.

This being said, it would be wise of Laura to get charitable status
since this would make people more likely to donate. I would also
suggest that she gets together with like minded people and form a
larger organization, one more likely to get discounts from more vets
due to buying power. She seems to be a "lone wolf" at this point in
her activities.



  #22  
Old February 18th 07, 06:02 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.rescue
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Default Cat at my rescue is sick I need donations!

That isn't the point. Asking for money in order to save a cat's life and
then saying the cat will be euthanized if nobody sends you money raises the
question of this scenario as being legitimate. People are very reluctant to
send money to an organization or individual they don't know. I resent being
called a cruel person because I called into question whether you are legally
allowed to operate. If I was such a cruel person then 3 of my cats would not
have gotten such a great home and I wouldn't have dedicated myself to
helping cats for so many years by getting most of the ones I've found placed
into legal non-profits so they have a chance to being adopted into good and
loving homes.

Most of those who have rescues need to file for exempt non-profit status. If
you don't have the money to do so then why not become a member of a
legitimate rescue as a volunteer? That would be an excellent place to start
before attempting to start your own rescue. Many times the legal non-profits
have access to resources like vets who will do certain procedures like
spaying and neutering at a lower cost.

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"Laura" wrote in message
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maybe I should also say I'm 19 work part time and go to school also... I
do what I can to help... being called a "scam" before I'm checked into
isn't fair... don't call down on people you don't know. I've done a lot
within the last 3 years and have been doing this for the last 7 years but
the last 3 have almost been all of my free time. I don't drink do drugs or
spend my money on anything that isn't a necessity. I have put out so much
already all I'm asking for is help. Anything you can spare is nice and
will help. I get donations sometimes but it's very rare and mostly it
comes from people who adopt from me. I work very hard to find homes for
the feral cats in my neighborhood (and there are many) I have rescued 109
kittens and 36 feral adults all of which had to be caught tamed down and
socialised before they could be rehomed. This was just last year (2006)
Everything extra I have goes into my rescue.

Thanks for listening to me rant and rave

~Laura



  #23  
Old February 18th 07, 06:06 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.rescue
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Default Cat at my rescue is sick I need donations!

And I answered. BTW, how will you handle it if someone has a problem with a
cat and wishes to return them for whatever reason or they ask you for your
non-profit tax ID # and you don't have one to give them? Perhaps you should
read the advice given to you. It might make your functioning as a non-profit
easier.

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"Laura" wrote in message
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maybe I should say the post above was directed at Cat Protector

~Laura



  #24  
Old February 19th 07, 01:42 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.rescue
William Hamblen
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Default Cat at my rescue is sick I need donations!

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:39:50 GMT, John Ross Mc Master
wrote:

She is breaking no Canadian law.


Look into the Uniform Chartiable Fundraising Act, then.

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  #25  
Old February 19th 07, 07:41 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.rescue
Laura
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Default Cat at my rescue is sick I need donations!

Look into the Uniform Chartiable Fundraising Act, then.



This is straight from the act mentioned above again I am breaking NO laws


Charities that raise annual gross contributions of less than $25,000 are
exempt from the requirements of

the Uniform Act. This was to recognize the burden additional regulation
could place on smaller

organizations.


  #26  
Old February 19th 07, 04:43 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.rescue
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Default Cat at my rescue is sick I need donations!

On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 06:41:04 GMT, "Laura" wrote:

Look into the Uniform Chartiable Fundraising Act, then.




This is straight from the act mentioned above again I am breaking NO laws


Charities that raise annual gross contributions of less than $25,000 are
exempt from the requirements of

the Uniform Act. This was to recognize the burden additional regulation
could place on smaller

organizations.

Read your email. I'm sending it now.
  #27  
Old February 20th 07, 01:35 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.rescue
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Default Cat at my rescue is sick I need donations!

Part of your problem soliciting funds is that the contributions wouldn't be
tax deductible (here at least) because you don't have official non-profit
status.

I would contact rescue groups in your area and see if you can work a deal to
use their vet at their cost if you cover the cost.


W




"Laura" wrote in message
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Look into the Uniform Chartiable Fundraising Act, then.




This is straight from the act mentioned above again I am breaking NO laws


Charities that raise annual gross contributions of less than $25,000 are
exempt from the requirements of

the Uniform Act. This was to recognize the burden additional regulation
could place on smaller

organizations.




  #28  
Old February 20th 07, 01:39 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.rescue
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Default Cat at my rescue is sick I need donations!

Take a chill pill. Many rescue groups get started with just one person. I
can understand being guarded about sending money to people before checking
to make sure it's legit but someone who is working on their own and can't
afford to pay this vet bill undoubtedly doesn't have the money to pay to
establish the corporation and apply for non-profit status.



W




"Cat Protector" wrote in message
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I'm cruel? I don't think it's wrong or cruel to ask how you are able to
operate without a license and a tax ID. Most legitimate groups have the
necessary paperwork to prove they are a non-profit and thus allowed to
operate. If I was a cruel guy then why would I donate money every year to
rescues who BTW, are legally allowed to operate, have the necessary tax ID
#'s that prove their non-profit status? Nobody's telling you to stop
rescuing cats but you can't blame people for asking if you are legal to
operate. Also, scammers abound on the internet and when someone comes on
asking for money to help a cat or they'll be forced to euthanize them is
not only a bad tactic to use but also unethical.

I have worked with many rescues and none of them have said "help this cat
or I'll have them euthanized if I don't receive any money." A lot of the
smaller rescues and even some of the larger ones will often work with vets
that can have procedures done at a reduced rate.

Nobody is making your life harder and I don't think it is unreasonable to
ask if your rescue group or organization is legally allowed to operate
especially if someone who wishes to donate asks for your tax ID # so they
can write off the money they gave you as a donation.

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"Laura" wrote in message
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I am not breaking any law in my city...
I have proof.......I have references from the many adoptions I have done.
I don't understand why you are so bent on making everyone's life harder
would u rather I stop rescuing cats? and have them out on the streets
dying?
Some people are cruel and you sir are one of them

~Laura






  #29  
Old February 20th 07, 01:44 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.rescue
Wendy
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Default Cat at my rescue is sick I need donations!

Just keep really good records of what you spend on your kitties and what
donations you have received. You don't need problems with the tax man. I
think you'll need them if you ever get large enough to apply for non-profit
status.

W

"Laura" wrote in message
news:ey9Bh.1013552$R63.485394@pd7urf1no...
maybe I should also say I'm 19 work part time and go to school also... I
do what I can to help... being called a "scam" before I'm checked into
isn't fair... don't call down on people you don't know. I've done a lot
within the last 3 years and have been doing this for the last 7 years but
the last 3 have almost been all of my free time. I don't drink do drugs or
spend my money on anything that isn't a necessity. I have put out so much
already all I'm asking for is help. Anything you can spare is nice and
will help. I get donations sometimes but it's very rare and mostly it
comes from people who adopt from me. I work very hard to find homes for
the feral cats in my neighborhood (and there are many) I have rescued 109
kittens and 36 feral adults all of which had to be caught tamed down and
socialised before they could be rehomed. This was just last year (2006)
Everything extra I have goes into my rescue.

Thanks for listening to me rant and rave

~Laura



  #30  
Old February 21st 07, 03:07 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.rescue
Cat Protector
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Default Cat at my rescue is sick I need donations!

That isn't the point at all. The main point is, how can she start a rescue
if she doesn't have the financial means to handle getting care for one cat.
If she can't pay to get one cat's operation or treatment then how will she
handle the many others she intends on helping. I recommend she volunteer for
a larger rescue and do fostering for them.


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"Wendy" wrote in message
...
Take a chill pill. Many rescue groups get started with just one person. I
can understand being guarded about sending money to people before checking
to make sure it's legit but someone who is working on their own and can't
afford to pay this vet bill undoubtedly doesn't have the money to pay to
establish the corporation and apply for non-profit status.



W




"Cat Protector" wrote in message
...
I'm cruel? I don't think it's wrong or cruel to ask how you are able to
operate without a license and a tax ID. Most legitimate groups have the
necessary paperwork to prove they are a non-profit and thus allowed to
operate. If I was a cruel guy then why would I donate money every year to
rescues who BTW, are legally allowed to operate, have the necessary tax
ID #'s that prove their non-profit status? Nobody's telling you to stop
rescuing cats but you can't blame people for asking if you are legal to
operate. Also, scammers abound on the internet and when someone comes on
asking for money to help a cat or they'll be forced to euthanize them is
not only a bad tactic to use but also unethical.

I have worked with many rescues and none of them have said "help this cat
or I'll have them euthanized if I don't receive any money." A lot of the
smaller rescues and even some of the larger ones will often work with
vets that can have procedures done at a reduced rate.

Nobody is making your life harder and I don't think it is unreasonable to
ask if your rescue group or organization is legally allowed to operate
especially if someone who wishes to donate asks for your tax ID # so they
can write off the money they gave you as a donation.

--
Cat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time!
www.catgalaxymedia.com

Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs!
www.panthertekit.com
"Laura" wrote in message
news:JOQBh.1018649$1T2.418539@pd7urf2no...
I am not breaking any law in my city...
I have proof.......I have references from the many adoptions I have
done.
I don't understand why you are so bent on making everyone's life harder
would u rather I stop rescuing cats? and have them out on the streets
dying?
Some people are cruel and you sir are one of them

~Laura








 




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