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Old September 13th 03, 03:04 AM
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Personally I don't care for IAMS (owned by Proctor & Gamble) or Science Diet
(owned by Colgage & Palmolive), mostly because the companies that own these
foods do animal testing on their products.


Here we go again. Colgate doesn't do animal testing on their products. Why
slander them?

Also, when I fed Science Diet in
the past, my cats never did very well on it.


My cats have always done fantastic on it.

I dont' feed commercial food but
my friends who do have cats that do well on Petguard, Felidae, or Wellness.
These foods should be available at a large health food market like Whole
Foods
or Wild Oats, or small pet supply stores.


Those are all foods that are appropriate only for kittens and not adult or
senior cats. Not to mention the fact that they haven't done animal feeding
trials. What have they got to hide?


I honestly don't know whether or not they use feeding trials. Can you prove
that they don't or are you just saying it to bash them?
Here's how good feeding trials are according to AAFCO:
"8 dogs older than 1 yr. must start the test. At start all dogs must be normal
weight & health. A blood test is to be taken from each dog at the start and
finish of the test. For 6 months, the dogs used must only eat the food being
tested. The dogs finishing the test must not
lose more than 15% of their body weight. During the test, none of the
dogs used are to die or be removed because of nutritional causes. 6
of the 8 dogs starting must finish the test."

This is take from AAFCO directly. So, according to them, 25% of the dogs being
tested can die while eating the food being tested, and the food will still
pass. So much for feeding trials, huh? LOL
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Old September 13th 03, 03:04 AM
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From: (GAUBSTER2)


Personally I don't care for IAMS (owned by Proctor & Gamble) or Science Diet
(owned by Colgage & Palmolive), mostly because the companies that own these
foods do animal testing on their products.


Here we go again. Colgate doesn't do animal testing on their products. Why
slander them?

Also, when I fed Science Diet in
the past, my cats never did very well on it.


My cats have always done fantastic on it.

I dont' feed commercial food but
my friends who do have cats that do well on Petguard, Felidae, or Wellness.
These foods should be available at a large health food market like Whole
Foods
or Wild Oats, or small pet supply stores.


Those are all foods that are appropriate only for kittens and not adult or
senior cats. Not to mention the fact that they haven't done animal feeding
trials. What have they got to hide?


I honestly don't know whether or not they use feeding trials. Can you prove
that they don't or are you just saying it to bash them?
Here's how good feeding trials are according to AAFCO:
"8 dogs older than 1 yr. must start the test. At start all dogs must be normal
weight & health. A blood test is to be taken from each dog at the start and
finish of the test. For 6 months, the dogs used must only eat the food being
tested. The dogs finishing the test must not
lose more than 15% of their body weight. During the test, none of the
dogs used are to die or be removed because of nutritional causes. 6
of the 8 dogs starting must finish the test."

This is take from AAFCO directly. So, according to them, 25% of the dogs being
tested can die while eating the food being tested, and the food will still
pass. So much for feeding trials, huh? LOL
________
See my cats:
http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm
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Old September 13th 03, 03:04 AM
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From: (GAUBSTER2)


Personally I don't care for IAMS (owned by Proctor & Gamble) or Science Diet
(owned by Colgage & Palmolive), mostly because the companies that own these
foods do animal testing on their products.


Here we go again. Colgate doesn't do animal testing on their products. Why
slander them?

Also, when I fed Science Diet in
the past, my cats never did very well on it.


My cats have always done fantastic on it.

I dont' feed commercial food but
my friends who do have cats that do well on Petguard, Felidae, or Wellness.
These foods should be available at a large health food market like Whole
Foods
or Wild Oats, or small pet supply stores.


Those are all foods that are appropriate only for kittens and not adult or
senior cats. Not to mention the fact that they haven't done animal feeding
trials. What have they got to hide?


I honestly don't know whether or not they use feeding trials. Can you prove
that they don't or are you just saying it to bash them?
Here's how good feeding trials are according to AAFCO:
"8 dogs older than 1 yr. must start the test. At start all dogs must be normal
weight & health. A blood test is to be taken from each dog at the start and
finish of the test. For 6 months, the dogs used must only eat the food being
tested. The dogs finishing the test must not
lose more than 15% of their body weight. During the test, none of the
dogs used are to die or be removed because of nutritional causes. 6
of the 8 dogs starting must finish the test."

This is take from AAFCO directly. So, according to them, 25% of the dogs being
tested can die while eating the food being tested, and the food will still
pass. So much for feeding trials, huh? LOL
________
See my cats:
http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm
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Old September 13th 03, 03:50 AM
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Brian or Sharon Beuchaw said:

And hopefully this will be an easy question for y'all - our 5 year old
female recently developed cystitis w/o crystals (and from what I've read,
stress and eating dry food may aggravate it, and we just got a new kitten
a few weeks ago and she eats dry food). I've read numerous posts about
wet food being best, so we need to switch. Which wet food (readily
available at either the grocery store or Petsmart) would be best for
keeping cystitis at bay for the rest of her life? Or does it really
matter what brand as long as it's wet and the cat likes it and eats it?


Your vet would be a good place to start. A low magnesium food and alot
of water consumption is a starting point. I know that my local Petsmart
sells prescription foods. They are in a separate area away from the rest
of the food. You will have to look for it in the store. I don't know
what the requirements are to purchase it but it is probably worth
looking into.

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Old September 13th 03, 03:50 AM
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Brian or Sharon Beuchaw said:

And hopefully this will be an easy question for y'all - our 5 year old
female recently developed cystitis w/o crystals (and from what I've read,
stress and eating dry food may aggravate it, and we just got a new kitten
a few weeks ago and she eats dry food). I've read numerous posts about
wet food being best, so we need to switch. Which wet food (readily
available at either the grocery store or Petsmart) would be best for
keeping cystitis at bay for the rest of her life? Or does it really
matter what brand as long as it's wet and the cat likes it and eats it?


Your vet would be a good place to start. A low magnesium food and alot
of water consumption is a starting point. I know that my local Petsmart
sells prescription foods. They are in a separate area away from the rest
of the food. You will have to look for it in the store. I don't know
what the requirements are to purchase it but it is probably worth
looking into.

  #19  
Old September 13th 03, 03:50 AM
rrb_041303
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Brian or Sharon Beuchaw said:

And hopefully this will be an easy question for y'all - our 5 year old
female recently developed cystitis w/o crystals (and from what I've read,
stress and eating dry food may aggravate it, and we just got a new kitten
a few weeks ago and she eats dry food). I've read numerous posts about
wet food being best, so we need to switch. Which wet food (readily
available at either the grocery store or Petsmart) would be best for
keeping cystitis at bay for the rest of her life? Or does it really
matter what brand as long as it's wet and the cat likes it and eats it?


Your vet would be a good place to start. A low magnesium food and alot
of water consumption is a starting point. I know that my local Petsmart
sells prescription foods. They are in a separate area away from the rest
of the food. You will have to look for it in the store. I don't know
what the requirements are to purchase it but it is probably worth
looking into.

  #20  
Old September 13th 03, 06:34 AM
GAUBSTER2
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I honestly don't know whether or not they use feeding trials. Can you prove
that they don't or are you just saying it to bash them?


I'm not bashing anyone, I'm simply pointing out facts and reality. If you
don't believe me, pick up a can and read the AAFCO statement. Since AAFCO
standards are so easy to pass, why don't they even try?

"8 dogs older than 1 yr. must start the test. At start all dogs must be
normal
weight & health. A blood test is to be taken from each dog at the start and
finish of the test. For 6 months, the dogs used must only eat the food being
tested. The dogs finishing the test must not
lose more than 15% of their body weight. During the test, none of the
dogs used are to die or be removed because of nutritional causes. 6
of the 8 dogs starting must finish the test."

This is take from AAFCO directly. So, according to them, 25% of the dogs
being
tested can die while eating the food being tested, and the food will still
pass.


You're reading this completely wrong and inserting your biases into it. If at
least 6 of the 8 dogs must finish the test....that doesn't mean that 2 of the
dogs have to die. They must simply FINISH the test. Why do you assume the
worst?
 




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