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On Nov 12, 12:52 am, wrote:
Meghan Noecker wrote: "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote: Of course. And I have done that, many times -- and so have many others. The point is, that really shouldn't be necessary, at least not in many cases. It should be common sense to consult a vet under the types of conditions that I have seen posted -- again, numerous times. This is not directed at one person in particular. People need to *think.* Not everyone who reads and posts to these newsgroups has been reading them a long time, so not everyone is going to know that this is the standard answer, or that it's the best advice. Also, there is nothing common about so-called common sense. If you were taught to think sensibly, be grateful rather than judgemental of those who weren't so lucky. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't feel the same way. They won't go to the vet if they think it can be solved by a free online question. Or they won't go to the overnight vet because it costs too much. Or worse, they won't even call the vet because they think it takes too long to look up phone numbers. Gee, if they had a regular vet, they wouldn't need to look up the phone number, and the vet wold be happy to assist a regular customer. But hey, according to them, we are the true bad guys because all we do is suggest they go to the vet, the one thing they don't want to hear. Why make a big moral issue out of something that could simply be an innocent, or perhaps ignorant, but not "cheap" or "neglectful" question. I know that assuming someone means well isn't as much fun as getting on a moral high horse, I sure as hell get sick of the halo displays. Yeah, that person should take their cat to a vet. Maybe they didn't realize this. Now, hopefully, they do. (If not, then that's the time to yell at them...) I don't think Mary really so much directed her post to rpca, as this group really doesn't discuss health issues that much anyway. Regulars here (obviously) don't hesitate to seek a vet. I get what she's saying. Boy, do I get it, and it makes me really angry. I see people *constantly* drive up in $40,000 vehicles, with the hair,/ nails like Meghan said, and say, "I can't afford.....(fill in)". It's the people who don't WANT to afford. It's the people who want shelters, or vets, to take responsibility for their animals that burns me up. Using a newsgroup to compare notes with others, or to arm yourself with questions for your vet, is a good idea. Using it as a substitute for vet care isn't. We all know that already. Whose halo display are you referring to, specifically? IMO, Mary was venting as much as anything else. Is she not allowed that? Sherry |
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"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message . .. Unfortunately, I think you are correct. There are some occasions when I think it is a newbie who really doesn't know what to do, but that is a rarity. Like you, I went through periods when I borrowed money to take care of my cats (actually, one cat at a time). I got my first cat when I was in graduate school, and my cat needed emergency surgery. I slowly paid the bill off, and it was paid in full after about three years -- but I made arrangements for it, and it was done. And it was well worth it! He was less than a year old at that time, but he lived to be just a little less than 20 years old. He was wonderful! MaryL I suppose it's a good idea to be a little patient until the OP shows themselves to be one of the a**holes who are too cheap or stupid to have a cat. There might be people who really don't know if their cat's problem could wait until morning for the regular vet or if it's necessary to do the emergency vet trip. There are other people who might not have access to 24/7 vet care and post to see if there is something they could/should be doing until they can get the cat to the vet. Sometimes they get jumped on because we have all come to expect the jerks. Cats barf from time to time when there really isn't anything wrong. How do you know the difference between eating too quickly or trying to kutz up a hair ball and some life threatening illness? I've fostered a couple of hundred cats and don't always know what I'm dealing with and if it really requires a vet visit. Making the call to take the cat to the emergency vet can be even trickier. Wendy |
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In rec.pets.cats.anecdotes Meghan Noecker wrote:
On 12 Nov 2007 06:52:19 GMT, wrote: Why make a big moral issue out of something that could simply be an innocent, or perhaps ignorant, but not "cheap" or "neglectful" question. I know that assuming someone means well isn't as much fun as getting on a moral high horse, I sure as hell get sick of the halo displays. I usually do just tell them to go to the vet. It is when these idiots start arguing back that we didn't give them any good advice, as if we failed them. Then I get irritated with them. What did they expect? This is not a group of vets. Well, like I said, if they don't take good advice after being politely told what they need to do (as well as what will *not* work), that's the time to yell at them. Joyce |
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"Sherry" wrote in message
ups.com... I don't think Mary really so much directed her post to rpca, as this group really doesn't discuss health issues that much anyway. Regulars here (obviously) don't hesitate to seek a vet. Oh, man, you can say that again! I've spent over $4,000 in vet bills since June of this year!! I don't regret a penny of it (well maybe a bit for the time I brought Archer in thinking he had gangrene when in actuality is was dirty tape from the cast just removed). ; Hugs, CatNipped |
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On Nov 12, 1:05 pm, "CatNipped" wrote:
"Sherry" wrote in message ups.com... I don't think Mary really so much directed her post to rpca, as this group really doesn't discuss health issues that much anyway. Regulars here (obviously) don't hesitate to seek a vet. Oh, man, you can say that again! I've spent over $4,000 in vet bills since June of this year!! I don't regret a penny of it (well maybe a bit for the time I brought Archer in thinking he had gangrene when in actuality is was dirty tape from the cast just removed). ; Hugs, CatNipped I knew you'd spent a bundle. You took on a lot of health issues with your new babies, *besides* Archer's accident. It can really add up. What I just thought about reading your post -- I don't think I spent that much having bypass surgery! Veterinary medicine has come SO far. So much hightech equipment, complicated procedures that can now save a life that we didn't even have 20 years ago. We expect to pay big bucks for good care, but like with *our* medical stuff, we really need good pet care insurance now. Sherry |
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"Sherry" wrote in message
ups.com... On Nov 12, 1:05 pm, "CatNipped" wrote: "Sherry" wrote in message ups.com... I don't think Mary really so much directed her post to rpca, as this group really doesn't discuss health issues that much anyway. Regulars here (obviously) don't hesitate to seek a vet. Oh, man, you can say that again! I've spent over $4,000 in vet bills since June of this year!! I don't regret a penny of it (well maybe a bit for the time I brought Archer in thinking he had gangrene when in actuality is was dirty tape from the cast just removed). ; Hugs, CatNipped I knew you'd spent a bundle. You took on a lot of health issues with your new babies, *besides* Archer's accident. It can really add up. What I just thought about reading your post -- I don't think I spent that much having bypass surgery! Veterinary medicine has come SO far. So much hightech equipment, complicated procedures that can now save a life that we didn't even have 20 years ago. We expect to pay big bucks for good care, but like with *our* medical stuff, we really need good pet care insurance now. Sherry I hear you! I don't get it because most I've seen don't cover regular check-ups or vaccinations - and, knock wood, my clowder has never had any health issues until now. I'd probably have ended up paying *WAY* more in pet insurance over the years than I spent this year for all the problems. Hugs, CatNipped |
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In rec.pets.cats.anecdotes Sherry wrote:
On Nov 12, 1:05 pm, "CatNipped" wrote: Oh, man, you can say that again! I've spent over $4,000 in vet bills since June of this year!! I don't regret a penny of it (well maybe a bit for the time I brought Archer in thinking he had gangrene when in actuality is was dirty tape from the cast just removed). ; I knew you'd spent a bundle. You took on a lot of health issues with your new babies, *besides* Archer's accident. It can really add up. How *is* Archer, by the way? Joyce |
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"CatNipped" wrote in message ... "Sherry" wrote in message ups.com... On Nov 12, 1:05 pm, "CatNipped" wrote: "Sherry" wrote in message ups.com... I don't think Mary really so much directed her post to rpca, as this group really doesn't discuss health issues that much anyway. Regulars here (obviously) don't hesitate to seek a vet. Oh, man, you can say that again! I've spent over $4,000 in vet bills since June of this year!! I don't regret a penny of it (well maybe a bit for the time I brought Archer in thinking he had gangrene when in actuality is was dirty tape from the cast just removed). ; Hugs, CatNipped I knew you'd spent a bundle. You took on a lot of health issues with your new babies, *besides* Archer's accident. It can really add up. What I just thought about reading your post -- I don't think I spent that much having bypass surgery! Veterinary medicine has come SO far. So much hightech equipment, complicated procedures that can now save a life that we didn't even have 20 years ago. We expect to pay big bucks for good care, but like with *our* medical stuff, we really need good pet care insurance now. Sherry I hear you! I don't get it because most I've seen don't cover regular check-ups or vaccinations - and, knock wood, my clowder has never had any health issues until now. I'd probably have ended up paying *WAY* more in pet insurance over the years than I spent this year for all the problems. Hugs, CatNipped I'll take this opportunity to mentione what I have done to provide for my furbabies (and many others have done the same thing). Like you said, pet insurance can cost more than treatment. Moreover, the "fine print" in pet insurance policies often places an unreasonably low maximum figure for certain ailments (and it is often a *lifetime* maximum), costs go up and coverage goes down as our pets age (which is just when they are more likely to need medical care), and many policies cover only certain specified problems. So, I opted to "self insure." Several years ago, I started to put a small amount into a savings account (actually, a money market fund because the interest is better). That account is reserved just for Holly and Duffy, and I have never touched it because it is only for emergencies and large expenses, not for routine care. Of course, this works best if you start when your furbabies are relatively young and healthy. That give you time for the account to grow before you are likely to need it. Even that is not guaranteed, though, because we can never be sure about when our cats may become sick or have an accident. MaryL |
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MaryL wrote:
So, I opted to "self insure." Several years ago, I started to put a small amount into a savings account (actually, a money market fund because the interest is better). That account is reserved just for Holly and Duffy, and I have never touched it I have done the same thing. I put $300 a year into a savings account reserved for cat emergencies. ---MIKE--- In the White Mountains of New Hampshire (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') |
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