Female cat gone nuts

On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:35:49 GMT, Outsider
wrote:

You need to give her much more time. She may never "come around" as much
as you hope but you seem to understand how she might feel so you know it
will take time for her to see you as a protector and a friend. She does
sound like she is warming up if slowly.

Sometimes it seems to be a rather warm relationship, then she turns
cold almost instantly. One thing I've learned is, when my daughter is
gone for the weekends, she takes care of emptying Yoshi's litter box
and refilling her food and water bowls before leaving. I leave Yoshi
to wander as she pleases, but usually sometime late Saturday
afternoon, Yoshi will come into the living room with a certain meow
that I've learned to mean, "Hey you, my food bowl is empty!" I don't
go back there until Yoshi comes in and "asks" me to.

I would also get a "fishing
pole" type toy; the ones with a "prey" on a line that you dangle from a
pole. That way she gets to catch it now and then.

Been there, done that. She tore up three of them in the first month,
then didn't care about them anymore. Next were the plastic and fabric
balls with the bells in them. We could throw them down the hall and
Yoshi would literally fetch them and bring them back to us. One thing
we caught her doing was stopping a little further from us each time
she retrieved them, sort of like she was expecting us to fetch for
her. When I'm sitting at the computer, I cannot keep getting up and
fetching for her, so I started ignoring her until she brought the
balls back within my easy reach. But once the laser came out, she
forgot completely about the balls.

The red dot is great
but they never get the fun of grabbing it and giving it a good thrashing.
She will also associate it with you more than she might the laser dot.

Strangely, it seems she associates the laser with me, since I'm the
only one who uses it with her. She'll leave my daughter's room (with
my daughter in there) and comes and sits on the back of the couch and
does her "Play with me now!" meow. She's now doing that 10-12 times a
day. The laser is good for her in that it lets her get a good bit of
exercise, since she's not allowed outdoors. I can run her around the
living room 6 or 7 times at full speed before she starts tiring. Then
20 minutes later, she's wanting to chase the dot again. We've tried
to reintroduce the balls to her, but she's not interested. She still
won't let me pick her up, but I've just stopped trying until she shows
a little more warming to me.

On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:28:19 -0800 (PST), bookie
wrote:

consult a cat behaviourist and don't post on sites like this if you
can't take a bit of grief

Precisely my point. You obviously see your role as the disher of
grief.

oh and don't leave your daughter (who obviously has little
consideration for any cats welfare when it might compromise her own
comfort) alone with the cat again

She's fine alone with her. The cat loves her to death, and I'm
certain she loves Yoshi, too. But thank you for your concerns.

On Jan 11, 3:16�am, Tim J. wrote:
My daughter's cat, now 10 months old, has become almost unbearable.
When we first got Yoshi at 6 weeks, she was very loving. �Even after
her spaying a few weeks later, her personality was great. �Although
she's always been partial to my daughter, she used to jump up in my
lap to be petted. �We know the history of this cat since birth, as
well as her parents (and grandparents), and all were well treated.

The problems started not long after our trip to Florida during the
summer. �We left her at my mother's house. �She also has a female cat,
about 3 years old. �Yoshi came in and took charge, basically ejecting
my mother's cat from the house for the entire week we were gone.
During that time, Yoshi would follow my mother around and jump up into
her lap wanting attention. �My mother has always spoiled her cats, and
she treated Yoshi no differently.

After we got her home, my daughter stayed with a friend of hers for
about a month until school started back. �She took Yoshi with her.
They had a small dog, and Yoshi seemed to get along well with it. �But
when my daughter moved back home, Yoshi's personality had changed
dramatically. �When I went to put her in the carrier to come home, she
fought me and scratched my arm up pretty good. �Now, when my daughter
is home, Yoshi basically ignores me. �When my daughter is not here,
Yoshi will come into the living room meowing at me, but runs when I
try to touch her. �I tried ignoring her when she comes into the room
until she starts rubbing up against my leg, but she still bolts when I
reach down to pet her. �Now it's to the point where she stays in my
daughter's room most of the time, only coming out to growl and hiss at
me. �Any attempt by me to touch her results in her swatting and
clawing at me, sometimes with some serious scratches and puncture
wounds on my hands and arms. �Thankfully, the only things she hasn't
been doing are biting and using the bathroom outside of her litter
box. �When my daughter is holding Yoshi and she comes near me, Yoshi
starts growling and clinging to my daughter as though I'm going to do
her harm. �My daughter hasn't been completely spared from Yoshi's
wrath, but she doesn't get near the reaction from Yoshi that I do.

I've had cats for most of my life, and I've never had one act this
way. �I don't know of anyone who has abused her, and don't know why
she seems to hate me so much. �The only thing I can think of which may
have set her off is when we had to take her to the vet soon after our
trip because her spaying incision didn't appear to be healing
properly. �She fought me ferociously as I took her out of the carrier,
and the vet had to call in extra help to restrain her. �Once his
assistants took over, I stepped back and let them do their job. �Once
in a while, my daughter can lay Yoshi down next to me and she will
stay as long as I scratch between her ears, but she does so very
reluctantly, with ears back and her growling most of the time. �She
then jumps up and runs within seconds after I stop scratching her. �If
I go into my daughter's room, Yoshi will hiss and growl at me while
crouching down next to her litter box.

Any ideas how I can reverse this odd behavior from Yoshi?

You had her spayed. That's the problem. You ripped out her ovaries...
The very things she needed to keep her hormones in balance. No wonder
she's going koo-koo. Did you ever stop to think that cats are mammals
just like people? And they will SUFFER just like people when their
private parts are tampered with? I'll bet you thought you were doing
the right thing, too. Didn't you? Just like you're listening to these
looney women in this group right now. You see... they too were
'spayed''. Most of them. And they can't have another orgasm for the
rest of their lives. Nor do they wish to get off their fat asses an
give one, either. And I'll bet that their husbands, those who are
still hanging in there, think they've gone nuts as well. And they
have. And from the very same cause.
So THINK the next time you feel like doing the 'stylish thing' .
Before you jump on the neuter and spay band-wagon. Before you ruin
another little life.


IBene Getiner

On 16 Jan, 02:54, Tim J. wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:28:19 -0800 (PST), bookie

wrote:
consult a cat behaviourist and don't post on sites like this if you
can't take a bit of grief

Precisely my point. *You obviously see your role as the disher of
grief.

oh and don't leave your daughter (who obviously has little
consideration for any cats welfare when it might compromise her own
comfort) alone with the cat again

She's fine alone with her. *The cat loves her to death, and I'm
certain she loves Yoshi, too. *But thank you for your concerns.

people onthis group will give advice but we generally lace with a good
sprinkle of grief and "i told you so" too for good measure, just to
ensure you don't dowhatever stupid thing it is you do again. Your vet
may be able to recommend a cat behaviourist if you ask.

also sometimes we hurt the ones we loves and dragging a cat about the
place just cos you say you love it may not be the best thing for the
cat, as we have seen here

"bookie" wrote in message
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On 16 Jan, 02:54, Tim J. wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:28:19 -0800 (PST), bookie

wrote:
consult a cat behaviourist and don't post on sites like this if you
can't take a bit of grief

Precisely my point. You obviously see your role as the disher of
grief.

oh and don't leave your daughter (who obviously has little
consideration for any cats welfare when it might compromise her own
comfort) alone with the cat again

She's fine alone with her. The cat loves her to death, and I'm
certain she loves Yoshi, too. But thank you for your concerns.

people onthis group will give advice but we generally lace with a good
sprinkle of grief and "i told you so" too for good measure, just to
ensure you don't dowhatever stupid thing it is you do again. Your vet
may be able to recommend a cat behaviourist if you ask.

also sometimes we hurt the ones we loves and dragging a cat about the
place just cos you say you love it may not be the best thing for the
cat, as we have seen here

Well said.

On 17 Jan, 17:54, "cybercat" wrote:
"bookie" wrote in message

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On 16 Jan, 02:54, Tim J. wrote:

On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:28:19 -0800 (PST), bookie

wrote:
consult a cat behaviourist and don't post on sites like this if you
can't take a bit of grief

Precisely my point. You obviously see your role as the disher of
grief.

oh and don't leave your daughter (who obviously has little
consideration for any cats welfare when it might compromise her own
comfort) alone with the cat again

She's fine alone with her. The cat loves her to death, and I'm
certain she loves Yoshi, too. But thank you for your concerns.

people onthis group will give advice but we generally lace with a good
sprinkle of grief and "i told you so" too for good measure, just to
ensure you don't dowhatever stupid thing it is you do again. Your vet
may be able to recommend a cat behaviourist if you ask.

also sometimes we hurt the ones we loves and dragging a cat about the
place just cos you say you love it may not be the best thing for the
cat, as we have seen here

Well said.

which bit?

"bookie" wrote
Well said.

which bit?

All of it, but particularly:

also sometimes we hurt the ones we loves and dragging a cat about the
place just cos you say you love it may not be the best thing for the
cat, as we have seen here