Weather

wrote:
Well, you got quite a jump on all the other folks moving directly
from Hong Kong to Canada just prior to '97. I'll bet real estate
was much cheaper when you moved.

I actually left several decades before that. By '97, I was well settled
here.


For some reason I thought you lived in Vancouver. But recently you
mentioned that some folks you work with drive two hours to Montreal,
so apparently, you are not on the west coast!

No I live in Ottawa. I took some seniors from the computer class where
I volunteered as
an teaching assitant to Montreal for a day long shopping trip. We took
the train.


What was tough about it, if you don't mind saying?

It was tought to start over in a new country where I knew few people.
Plus S.F. is a lot different from the small city I first lived in,
especially weather wise. I missed S.F. a lot.

Winnie

Joyce

On 02 Aug 2006 01:44:28 GMT, wrote:

jhill wrote:

I believe in the USA it is called a heat index. Yes, it the temperature
your body thinks it is considering the actual temperature and the humidity
combined. The higher the humidity % for a given actual temp, the higher the
index. If the temp. is actually 88 deg. F, and the humidity is very high
like 80-90% then it feels more like 95 deg F.

In addition to changing how it feels, does the humidity change how the
temperature actually affects a person? I'm thinking of dangers such as
dehydration or heatstroke. Will a higher humidity actually make those
things more likely?

I grew up in Massachusetts, where the "wind chill" factor was a regular
part of a forecast in the winter. Winds could make a cold day feel much
colder. And I think it could actually make you *be* colder, too, not
just feel colder. Meaning, risks such as hypothermia or frostbite were
increased with the wind chill. But don't quote me on that because I'm not
certain about it.

I saw a medical newsletter article today that said that, among elderly
people (70 years old or higher), the risk of heart attack goes up as
the humidity goes up. This is true in both hot and cold weather. The
doctors don't yet understand why this is true.

--
John F. Eldredge --
PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu
"Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better
than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria

"mlbriggs" wrote in message
news
After weeks of 100 to 104 temps, it is now 59 degrees. We had a real
"gully washer" with thunder and lightning. TuTu was very nervous and
kept winding herself around my feet. I opened the closet door and told
her to hide in there, but she wouldn't leave me. It is still raining but
not a "downpour". TuTu is now watching the rain run down the front
window.


At 2:30 am it is 84 degrees F, here in Fayetteville, North Carolina.
Yesterday, it was over 100 F. It is expected to be the same until the
weekend, then there is supposed to be another heat wave after that. Last
night I couldn't get to sleep, it was too hot and I was stressed. I think I
may turn into an owl until classes start on the 15th.

Pam S. with both fans blowing on her. wondering how Pat has survived
without AC

"tanada" wrote

At 2:30 am it is 84 degrees F, here in Fayetteville, North Carolina.
Yesterday, it was over 100 F. It is expected to be the same until the
weekend, then there is supposed to be another heat wave after that. Last
night I couldn't get to sleep, it was too hot and I was stressed. I think
I may turn into an owl until classes start on the 15th.

Pam S. with both fans blowing on her. wondering how Pat has survived
without AC

I guess I got good training living on the farm, in a metal box with a black
roof, in the full sun, with 6'6" ceilings. That place was always like an
oven in the summer. I mean, it would be 110F. inside by 11 AM when it was 90
outside. I bought a 6000 BTU window a/c unit and installed it in the living
room, and closed off both bedrooms and the bath, leaving about 200' sq. to
be cooled. Closed all the windows and the door, turned the thing on, and
after blowing ice-cold air for half an hour or so, it was ten degrees hotter
in there than it had been before turning on the a/c. So I sold the useless
thing. Sure wish I had kept it for here.

"Winnie" wrote in message
oups.com...

wrote:

Ah, gotcha. As in "it's 75 degrees today, 82 on the humidex"?

Joyce

You got it. Currently it is 32C(90F), but feels like 41C. The 41
(105F) is the humidex.
We always get the humidex, if any, reported.

Winnie


Here it was 101 F and the heat index (same as the humidex) was 119. Way too
hot to drive a car without a working AC.

Pam S.

On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 01:48:14 -0500, "Pat"
wrote:


"tanada" wrote

At 2:30 am it is 84 degrees F, here in Fayetteville, North Carolina.
Yesterday, it was over 100 F. It is expected to be the same until the
weekend, then there is supposed to be another heat wave after that. Last
night I couldn't get to sleep, it was too hot and I was stressed. I think
I may turn into an owl until classes start on the 15th.

Pam S. with both fans blowing on her. wondering how Pat has survived
without AC

I guess I got good training living on the farm, in a metal box with a black
roof, in the full sun, with 6'6" ceilings. That place was always like an
oven in the summer. I mean, it would be 110F. inside by 11 AM when it was 90
outside. I bought a 6000 BTU window a/c unit and installed it in the living
room, and closed off both bedrooms and the bath, leaving about 200' sq. to
be cooled. Closed all the windows and the door, turned the thing on, and
after blowing ice-cold air for half an hour or so, it was ten degrees hotter
in there than it had been before turning on the a/c. So I sold the useless
thing. Sure wish I had kept it for here.


I assume that you had the air conditioner installed correctly, with
the hot air from the exhaust side blowing outdoors, and weren't trying
to have it entirely within the trailer with no connection to the
outside? If you had it installed in the correct manner, then the
temperature increase after an hour _without_ using the air conditioner
would have been more than 10 degrees. So, you chose to go from
inadequate cooling to no cooling at all (and a higher indoors
temperature). Oh well, tastes differ. I prefer cooler temperatures
to warmer.

--
John F. Eldredge --
PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu
"Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better
than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria

"John F. Eldredge" wrote

I guess I got good training living on the farm, in a metal box with a
black
roof, in the full sun, with 6'6" ceilings. That place was always like an
oven in the summer. I mean, it would be 110F. inside by 11 AM when it was
90
outside. I bought a 6000 BTU window a/c unit and installed it in the
living
room, and closed off both bedrooms and the bath, leaving about 200' sq. to
be cooled. Closed all the windows and the door, turned the thing on, and
after blowing ice-cold air for half an hour or so, it was ten degrees
hotter
in there than it had been before turning on the a/c. So I sold the useless
thing. Sure wish I had kept it for here.

I assume that you had the air conditioner installed correctly, with
the hot air from the exhaust side blowing outdoors, and weren't trying
to have it entirely within the trailer with no connection to the
outside? If you had it installed in the correct manner, then the
temperature increase after an hour _without_ using the air conditioner
would have been more than 10 degrees. So, you chose to go from
inadequate cooling to no cooling at all (and a higher indoors
temperature). Oh well, tastes differ. I prefer cooler temperatures
to warmer.

You are right, it would have gotten at least ten degrees hotter in there
after an hour without the a/c *IF* I had left the windows and door closed!!

My point above was that the a/c unit was incapable of offsetting the temp.
increase created by closing the place up.

The place was completely uninsulated, therefore closing it up completely
caused the temperature to rise much as it would in a closed automobile in
the sun. But keeping everything open kept it from baking higher than about
115F.

I am dense at times, but have never been quite stupid enough to try running
a window air conditioner without sticking the back part of it out a
window.... geez!

On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:45:36 -0500, "Pat"
wrote:


"John F. Eldredge" wrote

I guess I got good training living on the farm, in a metal box with a
black
roof, in the full sun, with 6'6" ceilings. That place was always like an
oven in the summer. I mean, it would be 110F. inside by 11 AM when it was
90
outside. I bought a 6000 BTU window a/c unit and installed it in the
living
room, and closed off both bedrooms and the bath, leaving about 200' sq. to
be cooled. Closed all the windows and the door, turned the thing on, and
after blowing ice-cold air for half an hour or so, it was ten degrees
hotter
in there than it had been before turning on the a/c. So I sold the useless
thing. Sure wish I had kept it for here.

I assume that you had the air conditioner installed correctly, with
the hot air from the exhaust side blowing outdoors, and weren't trying
to have it entirely within the trailer with no connection to the
outside? If you had it installed in the correct manner, then the
temperature increase after an hour _without_ using the air conditioner
would have been more than 10 degrees. So, you chose to go from
inadequate cooling to no cooling at all (and a higher indoors
temperature). Oh well, tastes differ. I prefer cooler temperatures
to warmer.

You are right, it would have gotten at least ten degrees hotter in there
after an hour without the a/c *IF* I had left the windows and door closed!!

My point above was that the a/c unit was incapable of offsetting the temp.
increase created by closing the place up.

The place was completely uninsulated, therefore closing it up completely
caused the temperature to rise much as it would in a closed automobile in
the sun. But keeping everything open kept it from baking higher than about
115F.

I am dense at times, but have never been quite stupid enough to try running
a window air conditioner without sticking the back part of it out a
window.... geez!


OK, I apologize for the misunderstanding. The description above made
it sound like the only difference was AC running/AC not running.

I have been considering buying an electric attic fan to reduce my air
conditioning load. My house has a low attic (about 4 1/2 feet
headroom at the center), and passive ventilation. There are grilled
vents at each end of the gable, a half-inch to one inch gap between
the walls and roof all of the way around, and "wind turbine" vents on
the roof. Also, there is a fairly good layer of insulation between
the attic and the downstairs. Still, the attic probably reaches 140
degrees Fahrenheit or so on a mid-summer day. I suspect that the
electricity required to run a vent fan would be more than compensated
by reducing how much the air conditioner has to run downstairs. My
sister suggested that I look at the idea of a solar-cell-powered fan,
but I haven't had time to do so yet.

--
John F. Eldredge --
PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu
"Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better
than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria

"John F. Eldredge" wrote

I have been considering buying an electric attic fan to reduce my air
conditioning load. My house has a low attic (about 4 1/2 feet
headroom at the center), and passive ventilation. There are grilled
vents at each end of the gable, a half-inch to one inch gap between
the walls and roof all of the way around, and "wind turbine" vents on
the roof. Also, there is a fairly good layer of insulation between
the attic and the downstairs. Still, the attic probably reaches 140
degrees Fahrenheit or so on a mid-summer day. I suspect that the
electricity required to run a vent fan would be more than compensated
by reducing how much the air conditioner has to run downstairs. My
sister suggested that I look at the idea of a solar-cell-powered fan,
but I haven't had time to do so yet.

I don't think it would really do you any good to put a fan up there, because
heat goes up and stays up. The heat in your attic probably doesn't make a
difference in the temp. lower down in your house. But why not try it and
see? I think you can get a solar powered fan and it won't take any
electricity to run it.

On 2006-08-03, Pat wrote:

I don't think it would really do you any good to put a fan up there, because
heat goes up and stays up. The heat in your attic probably doesn't make a
difference in the temp. lower down in your house. But why not try it and
see? I think you can get a solar powered fan and it won't take any
electricity to run it.

Attic ventilation makes a big difference because you are blowing
away the hot air before the heat can soak through the ceiling.
I'll bet when he puts his hand on the ceiling it is warm.

My cat is obsessed with getting into the attic. I have to shut
her inside a room before letting down the folding stairs or
else she is up the stairs before I can catch her. After I let
her out of the room she will stand under the stairs and beg to
be let inside the attic.

Bud