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Old February 11th 04, 04:48 PM
BigDaDDY
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Ya know, If I wanted to be judged, I would have entered a popularity
contest. Perhaps you people could stick to answering the posts and keep
your judgements to yourselves, since you probably don't know the entire
story.

If you really want to know, there are probably very few people in the world
that love cats more than my fiance. She was crying last night because she
was worried about her cat. I told her I would post on here to see if
someone knew what may be the problem. If you people are that dumb to think
we aren't going to go for a second opinion, then I guess I thought the
intellect on this board was a little higher. The post was simply a means to
perhaps comfort her by possibly knowing what may be wrong, not as a
substitute for a second opinion.


So after all the posts, not a single thing addressed my question. Thanks
for nothin'!
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Old February 11th 04, 04:58 PM
Joe Canuck
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BigDaDDY wrote:

Ya know, If I wanted to be judged, I would have entered a popularity
contest. Perhaps you people could stick to answering the posts and keep
your judgements to yourselves, since you probably don't know the entire
story.


You could always explain the entire story.

If you really want to know, there are probably very few people in the world
that love cats more than my fiance. She was crying last night because she
was worried about her cat. I told her I would post on here to see if
someone knew what may be the problem. If you people are that dumb to think
we aren't going to go for a second opinion, then I guess I thought the
intellect on this board was a little higher. The post was simply a means to
perhaps comfort her by possibly knowing what may be wrong, not as a
substitute for a second opinion.


So after all the posts, not a single thing addressed my question. Thanks
for nothin'!


One does have to wonder when their cat obviously has a medical issue why
they run first to the newsgroups for answers instead of going to the
obvious place for this... the VET.

--
"Its the bugs that keep it running."
-Joe Canuck

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Old February 11th 04, 08:36 PM
Caroline
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"Joe Canuck" wrote
BigDaDDY wrote:

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So after all the posts, not a single thing addressed my question. Thanks
for nothin'!


One does have to wonder when their cat obviously has a medical issue why
they run first to the newsgroups for answers instead of going to the
obvious place for this... the VET.


Joe, the guy went to the vet and didn't get anything from the visit that helped.
So naturally he was baffled. Happens to all of us, it seems to me.

Vets do misdiagnose. These misdiagnoses do come up here. (I write this not as an
indictment of vets. I was one of the faction that did not want any action taken
against a certain vet who recently did not meet the standards of many people
here.. )

Sometimes people on the newsgroup do have more experience than certain vets.
Besides, at the newsgroup, posters have all the time in the world to relate a
cat's symptoms. A vet has a few minutes to look at a cat and listen to a
description of symptoms.

BigDaddy, for what it's worth, I found nothing wrong and everything right in
your initial post, which explicitly and merely asked if anyone else had seen
certain symptoms in their own cats. I know money is often a concern that affects
most everyone's pet (and children, and parent) decisions, so I don't blame
anyone for trying to be cost-effective, within reason (which is pretty
subjective!).

My cat has never had all the symptoms you describe. He did go through a period
of vomiting and having some litter box changes last year (but nothing as serious
as your cat's), and I (not the darn vet to whom I took him!) found all he needed
was some petroleum jelly-based hairball remedy. I don't fault the vet, per se. I
do fault any vet who doesn't acknowledge they often can't be sure what's wrong
with a cat, so continue troubleshooting.

Your cat sounds very sick. I hope you find the problem, one way or another, and
that Sammy is better soon. I for one would welcome an update. I'm sure it will
help others here in the future.

Good luck to your cat, your fiancé, and you,

C


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Old February 12th 04, 11:30 AM
BigDaDDY
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Caroline wrote:

"Joe Canuck" wrote
BigDaDDY wrote:

snip
So after all the posts, not a single thing addressed my question.
Thanks for nothin'!


One does have to wonder when their cat obviously has a medical issue why
they run first to the newsgroups for answers instead of going to the
obvious place for this... the VET.


Joe, the guy went to the vet and didn't get anything from the visit that
helped. So naturally he was baffled. Happens to all of us, it seems to me.

Vets do misdiagnose. These misdiagnoses do come up here. (I write this not
as an indictment of vets. I was one of the faction that did not want any
action taken against a certain vet who recently did not meet the standards
of many people here.. )

Sometimes people on the newsgroup do have more experience than certain
vets. Besides, at the newsgroup, posters have all the time in the world to
relate a cat's symptoms. A vet has a few minutes to look at a cat and
listen to a description of symptoms.

BigDaddy, for what it's worth, I found nothing wrong and everything right
in your initial post, which explicitly and merely asked if anyone else had
seen certain symptoms in their own cats. I know money is often a concern
that affects most everyone's pet (and children, and parent) decisions, so
I don't blame anyone for trying to be cost-effective, within reason (which
is pretty subjective!).

My cat has never had all the symptoms you describe. He did go through a
period of vomiting and having some litter box changes last year (but
nothing as serious as your cat's), and I (not the darn vet to whom I took
him!) found all he needed was some petroleum jelly-based hairball remedy.
I don't fault the vet, per se. I do fault any vet who doesn't acknowledge
they often can't be sure what's wrong with a cat, so continue
troubleshooting.

Your cat sounds very sick. I hope you find the problem, one way or
another, and that Sammy is better soon. I for one would welcome an update.
I'm sure it will help others here in the future.

Good luck to your cat, your fiancé, and you,

C

OH MY GOD!!!! FINALLY!!!! Someone with some intellect. Thank you very much
for your response. If only people would read the damn question and answer
my specific question rather than make assumptions about my priorites and
concern for my cat.

I have been on newsgroups a lot, and I can tell you from experience that
oftentimes you can learn more on a newsgroup than you can anywhere else
because past experience is a good teacher. Not to mention, it is possible
that 1 or more vets hang out here as well. In any case, I talked with
someone I work with, and he mentioned that his cat had similar problems and
that it was a kidney problem. The cat eventually died from it. Anyway,
Sammy is at the vet overnight tonight and she's having some tests done.
Hope all goes well.

Thanks again.

Matt
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Old February 12th 04, 04:09 PM
Caroline
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"BigDaDDY" wrote
snip for conciseness but comments noted
I have been on newsgroups a lot, and I can tell you from experience that
oftentimes you can learn more on a newsgroup than you can anywhere else
because past experience is a good teacher.


FWIW--

I agree 100%. I think the 'net has been a huge boon to the marketplace of ideas,
with enormous benevolent effect on the lives of "ordinary people."

As you are probably aware, some newsgroups tend to attract more sanctimony,
obsession, etc. than others. Lately I find myself enjoying groups much more when
about half the regulars are killfiled. At least, that seems to me to be the
usual proportion of sanctimonious attitudes. That's not to say someone somewhere
is not enjoying these killfilees' posts. It is to say I don't get anything out
of them. So diff'rent strokes...

Not to mention, it is possible
that 1 or more vets hang out here as well.


Yes, although alt.med.veterinary seems to have many more. Biases (and some
sanctimony) are evident among them. They're human. This in itself is valuable to
know.

On the other hand, the other week at alt.med.veterinary I saw a fascinating
professional exchange on the use of a particular drug (or procedure? can't
remember now). No airs were being put on. The vet participants were simply
trying to add to their own database of experience in a specific area where there
hadn't been any or many formal studies. And the public could read it and better
understand the vets' decision-making process in general. Really cool.

In any case, I talked with
someone I work with, and he mentioned that his cat had similar problems and
that it was a kidney problem. The cat eventually died from it.


Unfortunately, I have heard of cats with kidney problems. Kidney maladies in old
age in particular seem not uncommon. (Maybe you likewise are aware of how
common kidney problems are; I don't mean to be presumptuous.)

FWIW, a web search might turn up more. When my cat was ill a few weeks ago, I
was amazed at what was on the web re feline illnesses.

I can't recall whether you posted your cat's age.

Anyway,
Sammy is at the vet overnight tonight and she's having some tests done.
Hope all goes well.

Thanks again.


You're welcome. Thanks for sticking with the forum, as again, I think people
sharing their experiences helps others with their cats (etc.).

Best wishes for Sammy's recovery,

C.


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Old February 12th 04, 04:09 PM
Caroline
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"BigDaDDY" wrote
snip for conciseness but comments noted
I have been on newsgroups a lot, and I can tell you from experience that
oftentimes you can learn more on a newsgroup than you can anywhere else
because past experience is a good teacher.


FWIW--

I agree 100%. I think the 'net has been a huge boon to the marketplace of ideas,
with enormous benevolent effect on the lives of "ordinary people."

As you are probably aware, some newsgroups tend to attract more sanctimony,
obsession, etc. than others. Lately I find myself enjoying groups much more when
about half the regulars are killfiled. At least, that seems to me to be the
usual proportion of sanctimonious attitudes. That's not to say someone somewhere
is not enjoying these killfilees' posts. It is to say I don't get anything out
of them. So diff'rent strokes...

Not to mention, it is possible
that 1 or more vets hang out here as well.


Yes, although alt.med.veterinary seems to have many more. Biases (and some
sanctimony) are evident among them. They're human. This in itself is valuable to
know.

On the other hand, the other week at alt.med.veterinary I saw a fascinating
professional exchange on the use of a particular drug (or procedure? can't
remember now). No airs were being put on. The vet participants were simply
trying to add to their own database of experience in a specific area where there
hadn't been any or many formal studies. And the public could read it and better
understand the vets' decision-making process in general. Really cool.

In any case, I talked with
someone I work with, and he mentioned that his cat had similar problems and
that it was a kidney problem. The cat eventually died from it.


Unfortunately, I have heard of cats with kidney problems. Kidney maladies in old
age in particular seem not uncommon. (Maybe you likewise are aware of how
common kidney problems are; I don't mean to be presumptuous.)

FWIW, a web search might turn up more. When my cat was ill a few weeks ago, I
was amazed at what was on the web re feline illnesses.

I can't recall whether you posted your cat's age.

Anyway,
Sammy is at the vet overnight tonight and she's having some tests done.
Hope all goes well.

Thanks again.


You're welcome. Thanks for sticking with the forum, as again, I think people
sharing their experiences helps others with their cats (etc.).

Best wishes for Sammy's recovery,

C.


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Old February 12th 04, 06:01 PM
Mary
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"BigDaDDY" wrote in message
...
In any case, I talked with
someone I work with, and he mentioned that his cat had similar

problems and
that it was a kidney problem. The cat eventually died from it.

Anyway,
Sammy is at the vet overnight tonight and she's having some tests

done.

Well good. I would like to suggest that not EVERYONE would fail to
understand that a week of not eliminating in and of itself is
life-threatening. Not everyone would need to check around with friends
and newsgroups. In fact I would have to say that MOST people
understand that not eliminating at all for that long is very
dangerous. It is why people used to give laxatives and enemas to
children on a regular basis. Sometimes the laxatives were things like
Bella Donna (no kidding) and people did not understand that a little
bit of poisonis medicine and a lot is, well, poison. I have an 1800s
ancestor who died from a laxative overdose. [Yes, go ahead, laugh, I
did too.] This is why it seemed you might not care about the cat,
and/or were trolling us.



Hope all goes well.



I do too, as does everyone here. Let us know how it works out, pardon
the pun.


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Old February 12th 04, 06:01 PM
Mary
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"BigDaDDY" wrote in message
...
In any case, I talked with
someone I work with, and he mentioned that his cat had similar

problems and
that it was a kidney problem. The cat eventually died from it.

Anyway,
Sammy is at the vet overnight tonight and she's having some tests

done.

Well good. I would like to suggest that not EVERYONE would fail to
understand that a week of not eliminating in and of itself is
life-threatening. Not everyone would need to check around with friends
and newsgroups. In fact I would have to say that MOST people
understand that not eliminating at all for that long is very
dangerous. It is why people used to give laxatives and enemas to
children on a regular basis. Sometimes the laxatives were things like
Bella Donna (no kidding) and people did not understand that a little
bit of poisonis medicine and a lot is, well, poison. I have an 1800s
ancestor who died from a laxative overdose. [Yes, go ahead, laugh, I
did too.] This is why it seemed you might not care about the cat,
and/or were trolling us.



Hope all goes well.



I do too, as does everyone here. Let us know how it works out, pardon
the pun.


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Old February 12th 04, 06:22 PM
Annie Wxill
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"BigDaDDY" wrote in message
...
....
Anyway,
Sammy is at the vet overnight tonight and she's having some tests done.
Hope all goes well.
Thanks again.
Matt


I hope all goes well, too, and the tests aren't too hard on your wallet.
Please let us know how it goes.
Annie


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Old February 12th 04, 06:22 PM
Annie Wxill
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"BigDaDDY" wrote in message
...
....
Anyway,
Sammy is at the vet overnight tonight and she's having some tests done.
Hope all goes well.
Thanks again.
Matt


I hope all goes well, too, and the tests aren't too hard on your wallet.
Please let us know how it goes.
Annie


 




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