Useless replies

Laura R. wrote:

circa Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:48:20 -0800, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
BigDaDDY ) said,

Ya know, If I wanted to be judged, I would have entered a popularity
contest. Perhaps you people could stick to answering the posts and keep
your judgements to yourselves, since you probably don't know the entire
story.

If you really want to know, there are probably very few people in the world
that love cats more than my fiance. She was crying last night because she
was worried about her cat. I told her I would post on here to see if
someone knew what may be the problem. If you people are that dumb to think
we aren't going to go for a second opinion, then I guess I thought the
intellect on this board was a little higher. The post was simply a means to
perhaps comfort her by possibly knowing what may be wrong, not as a
substitute for a second opinion.


So after all the posts, not a single thing addressed my question. Thanks
for nothin'!


I think you have some reading problems. Every single response I see
*did* address your question, and I *do not* see a bunch of judgement.
I see a bunch of people advising you to get your cat to a vet, WHICH
YOU DAMNED WELL NEED TO DO- NOW. I do not see one single person
accusing you of not planning to get a second opinion- they ADVISED
you to do so. If you are standing in the middle of the street and I
see a bus heading towards you and ADVISE you to get out of the way,
is that somehow "useless" "judgement" to you, as well. Good christ.

Unfreakingbelievable.

Laura

Hey, we agree on something! ;-)

I think this fellow may consider the renovations going on in his garage
of higher importance than the welfare of his cat.

--
"Its the bugs that keep it running."
-Joe Canuck

When you first posted, I read the first line of your post and then ignored
it as troll bait.

After seeing this one, I went back and checked the first one. Yes, you did
get a lot of judgment heaped on your head, but most of the calmer replies
concurred: it could be anything, and you need to seek out a better vet, or
go back to the first one and be more aggressive in your demands.

It's impossible to diagnose on the internet, and the symptoms you described
are so general as to be suggestive of any one of thousands of things!

"BigDaDDY" wrote in message
...
Ya know, If I wanted to be judged, I would have entered a popularity
contest. Perhaps you people could stick to answering the posts and keep
your judgements to yourselves, since you probably don't know the entire
story.

If you really want to know, there are probably very few people in the
world
that love cats more than my fiance. She was crying last night because she
was worried about her cat. I told her I would post on here to see if
someone knew what may be the problem. If you people are that dumb to
think
we aren't going to go for a second opinion, then I guess I thought the
intellect on this board was a little higher. The post was simply a means
to
perhaps comfort her by possibly knowing what may be wrong, not as a
substitute for a second opinion.


So after all the posts, not a single thing addressed my question. Thanks
for nothin'!

When you first posted, I read the first line of your post and then ignored
it as troll bait.

After seeing this one, I went back and checked the first one. Yes, you did
get a lot of judgment heaped on your head, but most of the calmer replies
concurred: it could be anything, and you need to seek out a better vet, or
go back to the first one and be more aggressive in your demands.

It's impossible to diagnose on the internet, and the symptoms you described
are so general as to be suggestive of any one of thousands of things!

"BigDaDDY" wrote in message
...
Ya know, If I wanted to be judged, I would have entered a popularity
contest. Perhaps you people could stick to answering the posts and keep
your judgements to yourselves, since you probably don't know the entire
story.

If you really want to know, there are probably very few people in the
world
that love cats more than my fiance. She was crying last night because she
was worried about her cat. I told her I would post on here to see if
someone knew what may be the problem. If you people are that dumb to
think
we aren't going to go for a second opinion, then I guess I thought the
intellect on this board was a little higher. The post was simply a means
to
perhaps comfort her by possibly knowing what may be wrong, not as a
substitute for a second opinion.


So after all the posts, not a single thing addressed my question. Thanks
for nothin'!

Caroline wrote:

"Joe Canuck" wrote
BigDaDDY wrote:
snip
So after all the posts, not a single thing addressed my question.
Thanks for nothin'!

One does have to wonder when their cat obviously has a medical issue why
they run first to the newsgroups for answers instead of going to the
obvious place for this... the VET.

Joe, the guy went to the vet and didn't get anything from the visit that
helped. So naturally he was baffled. Happens to all of us, it seems to me.

Vets do misdiagnose. These misdiagnoses do come up here. (I write this not
as an indictment of vets. I was one of the faction that did not want any
action taken against a certain vet who recently did not meet the standards
of many people here.. )

Sometimes people on the newsgroup do have more experience than certain
vets. Besides, at the newsgroup, posters have all the time in the world to
relate a cat's symptoms. A vet has a few minutes to look at a cat and
listen to a description of symptoms.

BigDaddy, for what it's worth, I found nothing wrong and everything right
in your initial post, which explicitly and merely asked if anyone else had
seen certain symptoms in their own cats. I know money is often a concern
that affects most everyone's pet (and children, and parent) decisions, so
I don't blame anyone for trying to be cost-effective, within reason (which
is pretty subjective!).

My cat has never had all the symptoms you describe. He did go through a
period of vomiting and having some litter box changes last year (but
nothing as serious as your cat's), and I (not the darn vet to whom I took
him!) found all he needed was some petroleum jelly-based hairball remedy.
I don't fault the vet, per se. I do fault any vet who doesn't acknowledge
they often can't be sure what's wrong with a cat, so continue
troubleshooting.

Your cat sounds very sick. I hope you find the problem, one way or
another, and that Sammy is better soon. I for one would welcome an update.
I'm sure it will help others here in the future.

Good luck to your cat, your fiancé, and you,

C
OH MY GOD!!!! FINALLY!!!! Someone with some intellect. Thank you very much
for your response. If only people would read the damn question and answer
my specific question rather than make assumptions about my priorites and
concern for my cat.

I have been on newsgroups a lot, and I can tell you from experience that
oftentimes you can learn more on a newsgroup than you can anywhere else
because past experience is a good teacher. Not to mention, it is possible
that 1 or more vets hang out here as well. In any case, I talked with
someone I work with, and he mentioned that his cat had similar problems and
that it was a kidney problem. The cat eventually died from it. Anyway,
Sammy is at the vet overnight tonight and she's having some tests done.
Hope all goes well.

Thanks again.

Matt

Caroline wrote:

"Joe Canuck" wrote
BigDaDDY wrote:
snip
So after all the posts, not a single thing addressed my question.
Thanks for nothin'!

One does have to wonder when their cat obviously has a medical issue why
they run first to the newsgroups for answers instead of going to the
obvious place for this... the VET.

Joe, the guy went to the vet and didn't get anything from the visit that
helped. So naturally he was baffled. Happens to all of us, it seems to me.

Vets do misdiagnose. These misdiagnoses do come up here. (I write this not
as an indictment of vets. I was one of the faction that did not want any
action taken against a certain vet who recently did not meet the standards
of many people here.. )

Sometimes people on the newsgroup do have more experience than certain
vets. Besides, at the newsgroup, posters have all the time in the world to
relate a cat's symptoms. A vet has a few minutes to look at a cat and
listen to a description of symptoms.

BigDaddy, for what it's worth, I found nothing wrong and everything right
in your initial post, which explicitly and merely asked if anyone else had
seen certain symptoms in their own cats. I know money is often a concern
that affects most everyone's pet (and children, and parent) decisions, so
I don't blame anyone for trying to be cost-effective, within reason (which
is pretty subjective!).

My cat has never had all the symptoms you describe. He did go through a
period of vomiting and having some litter box changes last year (but
nothing as serious as your cat's), and I (not the darn vet to whom I took
him!) found all he needed was some petroleum jelly-based hairball remedy.
I don't fault the vet, per se. I do fault any vet who doesn't acknowledge
they often can't be sure what's wrong with a cat, so continue
troubleshooting.

Your cat sounds very sick. I hope you find the problem, one way or
another, and that Sammy is better soon. I for one would welcome an update.
I'm sure it will help others here in the future.

Good luck to your cat, your fiancé, and you,

C
OH MY GOD!!!! FINALLY!!!! Someone with some intellect. Thank you very much
for your response. If only people would read the damn question and answer
my specific question rather than make assumptions about my priorites and
concern for my cat.

I have been on newsgroups a lot, and I can tell you from experience that
oftentimes you can learn more on a newsgroup than you can anywhere else
because past experience is a good teacher. Not to mention, it is possible
that 1 or more vets hang out here as well. In any case, I talked with
someone I work with, and he mentioned that his cat had similar problems and
that it was a kidney problem. The cat eventually died from it. Anyway,
Sammy is at the vet overnight tonight and she's having some tests done.
Hope all goes well.

Thanks again.

Matt

Laura R. wrote:

circa 12 Feb 2004 01:55:39 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Cheryl
) said,

Same here. I've been to the vet at 1 am just because my cat was stuck
there scared overnight, and it was an emergency vet and opened any ways,
and let me come by just to sit with him.


Ditto. More times than I can even remember anymore.

Laura


WELL PIN A MEDAL ON ALL YOUR ASSES!!

Laura R. wrote:

circa 12 Feb 2004 01:55:39 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Cheryl
) said,

Same here. I've been to the vet at 1 am just because my cat was stuck
there scared overnight, and it was an emergency vet and opened any ways,
and let me come by just to sit with him.


Ditto. More times than I can even remember anymore.

Laura


WELL PIN A MEDAL ON ALL YOUR ASSES!!

Joe Canuck wrote:

BigDaDDY wrote:

Joe Canuck wrote:


BigDaDDY wrote:


Ya know, If I wanted to be judged, I would have entered a popularity
contest. Perhaps you people could stick to answering the posts and keep
your judgements to yourselves, since you probably don't know the entire
story.

You could always explain the entire story.


If you really want to know, there are probably very few people in the
world
that love cats more than my fiance. She was crying last night because
she
was worried about her cat. I told her I would post on here to see if
someone knew what may be the problem. If you people are that dumb to
think we aren't going to go for a second opinion, then I guess I thought
the intellect on this board was a little higher. The post was simply a
means to perhaps comfort her by possibly knowing what may be wrong, not
as a substitute for a second opinion.


So after all the posts, not a single thing addressed my question.
Thanks for nothin'!

One does have to wonder when their cat obviously has a medical issue why
they run first to the newsgroups for answers instead of going to the
obvious place for this... the VET.



Yeah, once again, superior intellect on your part...NOT!!

You won't get the help you want by being insulting.

You do want help don't you?

There are several knowledgable people here who can offer that, but
generally people are turned off by insulting comments.

Excuse the ****
out of me for trying to take advantage of all the resources available to
me. I'm sure whenever we find out what the cats problem is, that our cat
is not the only cat in the world that has experienced it. Consequently,
maybe if someone on this group had a cat with the same symptoms, they
could
tell us what the problem was. The newsgroup post was simply to find out
what the problem was. Not a substitute for a second vet appointment.
Besides, if you looked at my original post, it was at 1AM and we weren't
going to go to the vet at 1AM.

If the animal is in serious need of medical attention then going to the
vet at 1AM is most definitely advisable.

Many clinics offer emergency after hours vet services.

Instead of knocking someone for trying to
use all available resources,

That is just it, you did NOT use all available resources.

maybe you should commend them for going above
and beyond to try to understand what the problem may be and perhaps
research that problem to find ways to prevent future occurances. A vet
can fix things, but only the owner can provide an environment that is
less
likely to create future problems. So to you I say...BITE ME!

The bottom line here is that consulting a newsgroup for an obvious sick
animal is very poor substitute for going to the vet.

I noticed shortly after your post about your cat, your concern shifted
rather quickly to your garage floor with your post in alt.home.repair

Some of that cash going into fixing up your unfinished garage in that
home you just bought should be directed to the medical needs to your pet
cat. It isn't a matter of not enough cash, it is a matter of correct
allocation of the funds.

You need to work on your priorities.

Have a nice day.



I can 100% honestly say, I do not think I have ever seen a person as stupid
as you in my entire life. An example, here is your quote, "the bottom line
here is consulting a newsgroup for an obvious sick animal is a very poor
substitue for going to the vet." Now, I know this may be difficult since
it is very evident that you have the IQ of a Frisbee, but point your little
mouse up to the very top of the thread and read my article again. This
time try to comprehend it. When you get to the part that says.. "The post
was simply a means to perhaps comfort her by possibly knowing what may be
wrong, not as a substitute for a second opinion." look back at what you
just posted, go to the mirror and bitch slap yourself upside the head and
yell, GOD am I ****ing stupid!!

If I wanted a bunch of Blah ****ing Blah responses, I would have asked for
them. Now, do you think...you're cat is very sick is really beneficial?
It's like, NO **** Sherlock! I obviously tried the vet once, and I posted
on here because that didn't work. Very sick is of absolutely no use
whatsoever. I can deduce that without the help of anyone on this board. I'm
interested in what is wrong not adjectives.

As for my garage, it is coming along nicely thanks. The cat is not mine,
consequently I take no responsibility for it. I was just doing my fiance a
favor by posting here to try to help her out. But since you are interested
in my priorities, I had a lot of fun doing the drywall in my garage. In
fact, I wouldn't doubt it if all the joint compound dust has something to
do with what is wrong with my fiance's cat. Her cat loves to sit on heater
vents and I'm sure a lot of that dust got sucked into the furnace and
eventually made its way into the house. Fortunately when I was out there
working on the garage I had a respirator on so I wouldn't inhale all that
dust.

Joe Canuck wrote:

BigDaDDY wrote:

Joe Canuck wrote:


BigDaDDY wrote:


Ya know, If I wanted to be judged, I would have entered a popularity
contest. Perhaps you people could stick to answering the posts and keep
your judgements to yourselves, since you probably don't know the entire
story.

You could always explain the entire story.


If you really want to know, there are probably very few people in the
world
that love cats more than my fiance. She was crying last night because
she
was worried about her cat. I told her I would post on here to see if
someone knew what may be the problem. If you people are that dumb to
think we aren't going to go for a second opinion, then I guess I thought
the intellect on this board was a little higher. The post was simply a
means to perhaps comfort her by possibly knowing what may be wrong, not
as a substitute for a second opinion.


So after all the posts, not a single thing addressed my question.
Thanks for nothin'!

One does have to wonder when their cat obviously has a medical issue why
they run first to the newsgroups for answers instead of going to the
obvious place for this... the VET.



Yeah, once again, superior intellect on your part...NOT!!

You won't get the help you want by being insulting.

You do want help don't you?

There are several knowledgable people here who can offer that, but
generally people are turned off by insulting comments.

Excuse the ****
out of me for trying to take advantage of all the resources available to
me. I'm sure whenever we find out what the cats problem is, that our cat
is not the only cat in the world that has experienced it. Consequently,
maybe if someone on this group had a cat with the same symptoms, they
could
tell us what the problem was. The newsgroup post was simply to find out
what the problem was. Not a substitute for a second vet appointment.
Besides, if you looked at my original post, it was at 1AM and we weren't
going to go to the vet at 1AM.

If the animal is in serious need of medical attention then going to the
vet at 1AM is most definitely advisable.

Many clinics offer emergency after hours vet services.

Instead of knocking someone for trying to
use all available resources,

That is just it, you did NOT use all available resources.

maybe you should commend them for going above
and beyond to try to understand what the problem may be and perhaps
research that problem to find ways to prevent future occurances. A vet
can fix things, but only the owner can provide an environment that is
less
likely to create future problems. So to you I say...BITE ME!

The bottom line here is that consulting a newsgroup for an obvious sick
animal is very poor substitute for going to the vet.

I noticed shortly after your post about your cat, your concern shifted
rather quickly to your garage floor with your post in alt.home.repair

Some of that cash going into fixing up your unfinished garage in that
home you just bought should be directed to the medical needs to your pet
cat. It isn't a matter of not enough cash, it is a matter of correct
allocation of the funds.

You need to work on your priorities.

Have a nice day.



I can 100% honestly say, I do not think I have ever seen a person as stupid
as you in my entire life. An example, here is your quote, "the bottom line
here is consulting a newsgroup for an obvious sick animal is a very poor
substitue for going to the vet." Now, I know this may be difficult since
it is very evident that you have the IQ of a Frisbee, but point your little
mouse up to the very top of the thread and read my article again. This
time try to comprehend it. When you get to the part that says.. "The post
was simply a means to perhaps comfort her by possibly knowing what may be
wrong, not as a substitute for a second opinion." look back at what you
just posted, go to the mirror and bitch slap yourself upside the head and
yell, GOD am I ****ing stupid!!

If I wanted a bunch of Blah ****ing Blah responses, I would have asked for
them. Now, do you think...you're cat is very sick is really beneficial?
It's like, NO **** Sherlock! I obviously tried the vet once, and I posted
on here because that didn't work. Very sick is of absolutely no use
whatsoever. I can deduce that without the help of anyone on this board. I'm
interested in what is wrong not adjectives.

As for my garage, it is coming along nicely thanks. The cat is not mine,
consequently I take no responsibility for it. I was just doing my fiance a
favor by posting here to try to help her out. But since you are interested
in my priorities, I had a lot of fun doing the drywall in my garage. In
fact, I wouldn't doubt it if all the joint compound dust has something to
do with what is wrong with my fiance's cat. Her cat loves to sit on heater
vents and I'm sure a lot of that dust got sucked into the furnace and
eventually made its way into the house. Fortunately when I was out there
working on the garage I had a respirator on so I wouldn't inhale all that
dust.

"Cheryl" wrote in message
...
Brandy Alexandre wrote in
s.com on 11 Feb 2004:

Cheryl wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

Same here. I've been to the vet at 1 am just because my cat was
stuck there scared overnight, and it was an emergency vet and
opened any ways, and let me come by just to sit with him.


I took Kami the last time because she was limping more than her aging
self and I thought she was injured. It wasn't stopping her and we
probably could have waited until morning, but if it was a fracture I
didn't want her jumping up and down from the bed like she does and get
more hurt. It was only an arthritis flare-up and she got a shot for
pain and inflamation. I don't regret taking her except for the smelly
dogs we had to sit with in the waiting room.


Why do people in vet waiting rooms always let their big dogs sniff all over
a cat carrier? I usually pick up the carrier and put it on a chair away
from the dog so they get the message, but some people just let the dog go
over and resume sniffing carrier??

--
Cheryl

I guess we must have very civilized pet owners at my vet. I have never seen
anyone bring in an animal that they didn't have under control.