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"ensoul" wrote in message oups.com... the smell, both boxes get cleaned everyday...opening window is not an option I ilive in State it's 20 degree's and with wind chill much worse....I have tried OUT a spary to get rid of urine & feces odor, also arm & hammer stuff that you sprinkle both of these products only work temporarily Scoop more often. Once a day is not enough if you have a foul smell about your place. |
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ensoul wrote: we have cats, male, fixed, ayear old indoor cats, we always buy them food for indoor cats got them at the SPCA, even though we have a small place I asked if we sahould have 2 litter boxes, they said yes since some cats don't like sharing....we've tried so many different kinds, have spray called OUT for urine and feces odor and a Arm & Hammer product that you sprinkle on top of the litter, they help some, and one of cats, not sure which one doesn't cover his poop.....I scoop them every day...please don't suggest one of those machines that self cleans they run $100 and we can't afforfd....as always apprecaite your suggestions. i just thought of something. parasite can make a big stink. have you ever check them for blood parasites beside stool parasite? |
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"Joe Canuck" wrote in message ... ensoul wrote: sorry 2 cats and 2 litter boxes, they're brothers ensoul Well, if the smell is the big issue you can start with what they are consuming... because usually if the food they are consuming doesn't agree with them or isn't the best what comes out the other end will smell horribilis! :-D So, what do you feed them? ...and have you considered switch, gradually, to something else? Switching foods might be helpful, but the fact remains that eliminations from a body usually result in a stink. Perhaps the OP needs to spend more time tending to the litterbox. The moment I smell offensive odours emanating from the litter boxes in my home, I take care of them the same way as the toilet gets flushed after it's been used. Eliminating fowl odours isn't rocket science. |
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jmc wrote:
Suddenly, without warning, ensoul exclaimed (12-Feb-06 3:09 AM): we have cats, male, fixed, ayear old indoor cats, we always buy them food for indoor cats got them at the SPCA, even though we have a small place I asked if we sahould have 2 litter boxes, they said yes since some cats don't like sharing....we've tried so many different kinds, have spray called OUT for urine and feces odor and a Arm & Hammer product that you sprinkle on top of the litter, they help some, and one of cats, not sure which one doesn't cover his poop.....I scoop them every day...please don't suggest one of those machines that self cleans they run $100 and we can't afforfd....as always apprecaite your suggestions. ensoul Put your ear down close to your soul and listen hard. ~Anne Sexton You don't mention exactly how many cats. Many people suggest you should have one more litterbox than you have cats. I do realize that it may be a space issue, but you should have at least as many boxes as cats. If the problem is odor, try a different cat food. I've just recently put Meep The Non-Burying Cat on Royal Canin (Mature Indoor, I think), and she's gone from Oh, My God What An Amazing Stink to Oh, I didn't Realize She Had... As for litter, World's Best Cat Litter is, well, the best. Flushable, covers smell well when she does bury, lasts a long time if I clean regular, clumps just enough. Are they both using the boxes, or do you have a problem with one or the other going outside the boxes? jmc I have one box for 2 cats. No problem. Just scoop every day. I use Scoop Away because it clumps better and smells better than the others I've tried (Tidy Cats, Arm and Hammer) |
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Clumping clay litter that contains sodium bentonite is extremely dangerous
for your felines as when ingested during normal grooming from the paws, it forms hard clumps in their digestive tracts which can cause anything from pain to death. If you're using a product that fits this description and most especially if you have a long haired cat that gets quite a bit of litter stuck to their fur, I'd say that was a pretty dangerous combination. Besides the obvious health concerns with the clumping agent, these kinds of litters have harmful silica dust that your cat and you inhale that damages breathing surfaces permanently and is also a known carcinogen. Several years before I educated myself on this matter, I had a cat die from the effects of clumping litter in her system and it was a slow and painful death that I will feel guilty about for the rest of my life. As if all of that wasn't bad enough, clay mines are not eco-friendly either. I really have nothing good to say about clay litters, and most especially about clumping clay litters. My veterinarian was NO help whatsoever with figuring out this problem, so don't expect yours to be! Don't put yourself through the guilt or your cat through the pain. What seems like common sense in hindsight was something nobody figured out at the time, and so many cats are suffering needlessly while the makers of these products count their blood money and insist their customers are perfectly happy injuring and killing their beloved pets with their "convenient" products. ***Alternatives*** Try pine wood pellet, corn or wheat litters. They're natural and safe as long as the pine kind is only made from kiln-dried (natural oils-removed) pine sawdust formed into pellets and the corn/wheat varieties don't have any pesticide residues. (i.e. buy commercially prepared ones, don't try to make your own.) I buy a very large bag of it twice a year and that's it! It's $20 or $25 but that's Canadian money too, so it should be even cheaper if you're in the States. The shelter I got Tashi from was using a pine wood litter so I got the same thing to ease her transition and I'm so glad I did. It's amazing. There is NO unpleasant scent whatsoever! Not right away and not two, three or even four weeks later. After a month I change Tashi's litter, even though I can literally pick up her litter box and sniff it and still detect no scent at all. By then the pellets are mostly saw dust and that's when it's time to replace them. I do remove solid waste right away, and a little saw dust usually sticks to that, but it's perfectly safe to flush small amounts of saw dust. When I dump out the litter into a big green garbage bag, I place the pan in the tub and pour boiling water all around the sides and into it and let it sit for a while. Then I dump the water down the toilet and dry the pan with a paper towel. Because I'm using soft wood instead of hard silica, the pan stays in perfect non-scratched condition so it's easy to keep it hygienic. It always looks brand new to be honest. Pine litter is environmentally friendly and 100% natural and safe to use. It's so long lasting, controls odors perfectly and is affordable. It has no dust during use or while cleaning and replacing for you or your cat to inhale. It doesn't stick to your cat or track all over the house. I never thought a litter would come along as perfect as pine litter. Even the most finicky nose can not even detect it's presence in the home and almost too good to be true, it's inexpensive too - it's like a dream come true if you ask me. You pour out pellets and as the litter gets used up, it turns to saw dust. At no point along the way does it have a bad smell... just give it a stir when removing poop (if you want, usually I don't even do that) and when it's more sawdust and less pellets, replace it... very simple and easy to use. Messing with the litter a cat is used to can be problematic, so if you want to switch to pine litter, put an inch of it underneath a layer of your current product without stirring and slowly reduce your current product until nothing is left but the pine pellets. If your cat has any setbacks, simply slow down the process. Another option would be to toilet train your cats. Some say it's not natural and no cat would ever do such a thing willingly, which is not true. When I was growing up, we had a cat that taught himself to use the toilet, so don't let someone with an agenda (or maybe just jealous?) tell you what's normal and natural and what isn't. If your cat doesn't want to learn toilet training, trust me, it won't. Cats do not humor us with stupid pet tricks. They leave that sort of thing to dogs and humans. So you see there is absolutely no need to put up with indoor cat smelly litter anymore, those days are gone forever for me and I love it. The above was taken from Tashi's website and reworded slightly. ================================================== "ensoul" wrote in message oups.com... we have cats, male, fixed, ayear old indoor cats, we always buy them food for indoor cats got them at the SPCA, even though we have a small place I asked if we sahould have 2 litter boxes, they said yes since some cats don't like sharing....we've tried so many different kinds, have spray called OUT for urine and feces odor and a Arm & Hammer product that you sprinkle on top of the litter, they help some, and one of cats, not sure which one doesn't cover his poop.....I scoop them every day...please don't suggest one of those machines that self cleans they run $100 and we can't afforfd....as always apprecaite your suggestions. ensoul Put your ear down close to your soul and listen hard. ~Anne Sexton |
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Hi, I was wondering if you would know where I can get pine litter in
Australia? All that seems to be available here is clay and newspaper litters that don't work very well and the cats' don't like. Any help would be appreciated!! wrote in message news:Ji9Jf.24223$sa3.14328@pd7tw1no... Clumping clay litter that contains sodium bentonite is extremely dangerous for your felines as when ingested during normal grooming from the paws, it forms hard clumps in their digestive tracts which can cause anything from pain to death. If you're using a product that fits this description and most especially if you have a long haired cat that gets quite a bit of litter stuck to their fur, I'd say that was a pretty dangerous combination. Besides the obvious health concerns with the clumping agent, these kinds of litters have harmful silica dust that your cat and you inhale that damages breathing surfaces permanently and is also a known carcinogen. Several years before I educated myself on this matter, I had a cat die from the effects of clumping litter in her system and it was a slow and painful death that I will feel guilty about for the rest of my life. As if all of that wasn't bad enough, clay mines are not eco-friendly either. I really have nothing good to say about clay litters, and most especially about clumping clay litters. My veterinarian was NO help whatsoever with figuring out this problem, so don't expect yours to be! Don't put yourself through the guilt or your cat through the pain. What seems like common sense in hindsight was something nobody figured out at the time, and so many cats are suffering needlessly while the makers of these products count their blood money and insist their customers are perfectly happy injuring and killing their beloved pets with their "convenient" products. ***Alternatives*** Try pine wood pellet, corn or wheat litters. They're natural and safe as long as the pine kind is only made from kiln-dried (natural oils-removed) pine sawdust formed into pellets and the corn/wheat varieties don't have any pesticide residues. (i.e. buy commercially prepared ones, don't try to make your own.) I buy a very large bag of it twice a year and that's it! It's $20 or $25 but that's Canadian money too, so it should be even cheaper if you're in the States. The shelter I got Tashi from was using a pine wood litter so I got the same thing to ease her transition and I'm so glad I did. It's amazing. There is NO unpleasant scent whatsoever! Not right away and not two, three or even four weeks later. After a month I change Tashi's litter, even though I can literally pick up her litter box and sniff it and still detect no scent at all. By then the pellets are mostly saw dust and that's when it's time to replace them. I do remove solid waste right away, and a little saw dust usually sticks to that, but it's perfectly safe to flush small amounts of saw dust. When I dump out the litter into a big green garbage bag, I place the pan in the tub and pour boiling water all around the sides and into it and let it sit for a while. Then I dump the water down the toilet and dry the pan with a paper towel. Because I'm using soft wood instead of hard silica, the pan stays in perfect non-scratched condition so it's easy to keep it hygienic. It always looks brand new to be honest. Pine litter is environmentally friendly and 100% natural and safe to use. It's so long lasting, controls odors perfectly and is affordable. It has no dust during use or while cleaning and replacing for you or your cat to inhale. It doesn't stick to your cat or track all over the house. I never thought a litter would come along as perfect as pine litter. Even the most finicky nose can not even detect it's presence in the home and almost too good to be true, it's inexpensive too - it's like a dream come true if you ask me. You pour out pellets and as the litter gets used up, it turns to saw dust. At no point along the way does it have a bad smell... just give it a stir when removing poop (if you want, usually I don't even do that) and when it's more sawdust and less pellets, replace it... very simple and easy to use. Messing with the litter a cat is used to can be problematic, so if you want to switch to pine litter, put an inch of it underneath a layer of your current product without stirring and slowly reduce your current product until nothing is left but the pine pellets. If your cat has any setbacks, simply slow down the process. Another option would be to toilet train your cats. Some say it's not natural and no cat would ever do such a thing willingly, which is not true. When I was growing up, we had a cat that taught himself to use the toilet, so don't let someone with an agenda (or maybe just jealous?) tell you what's normal and natural and what isn't. If your cat doesn't want to learn toilet training, trust me, it won't. Cats do not humor us with stupid pet tricks. They leave that sort of thing to dogs and humans. So you see there is absolutely no need to put up with indoor cat smelly litter anymore, those days are gone forever for me and I love it. The above was taken from Tashi's website and reworded slightly. ================================================== "ensoul" wrote in message oups.com... we have cats, male, fixed, ayear old indoor cats, we always buy them food for indoor cats got them at the SPCA, even though we have a small place I asked if we sahould have 2 litter boxes, they said yes since some cats don't like sharing....we've tried so many different kinds, have spray called OUT for urine and feces odor and a Arm & Hammer product that you sprinkle on top of the litter, they help some, and one of cats, not sure which one doesn't cover his poop.....I scoop them every day...please don't suggest one of those machines that self cleans they run $100 and we can't afforfd....as always apprecaite your suggestions. ensoul Put your ear down close to your soul and listen hard. ~Anne Sexton |
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meee wrote:
Hi, I was wondering if you would know where I can get pine litter in Australia? All that seems to be available here is clay and newspaper litters that don't work very well and the cats' don't like. Any help would be appreciated!! Do you have wood pellet burning stoves down there? The pellets for those stoves is pretty much the same thing as wood pellet kitty litter. We also have a product called Woody Pet here, used as bedding for horses, that is also wood pellets. I'm sure you could find one or the other Corey |
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"Corey Kaye" wrote in message ... meee wrote: Hi, I was wondering if you would know where I can get pine litter in Australia? All that seems to be available here is clay and newspaper litters that don't work very well and the cats' don't like. Any help would be appreciated!! Do you have wood pellet burning stoves down there? The pellets for those stoves is pretty much the same thing as wood pellet kitty litter. We also have a product called Woody Pet here, used as bedding for horses, that is also wood pellets. I'm sure you could find one or the other Corey Thanks!! I have seen the wooden stove pellets down south, but I'm in Tropical North Queensland, so the horse bedding would probably be better. I have 6 cats so I've tried the paper litter and it gets smelly too quickly. Right now I'm using a friskies sandy looking litter, which is designed for multiple cat households apparently, but it says 'natural clay product with odour control system' and that's it. If it's dangerous I wouldn't want to use it. I like the sound of a natural non-smelly litter. |
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I get Tashi's at the big pet supply store here (In Canada) called Pet Cetera
or whatever it's called. I have a friend who owns a cat in Orange, so I've written him to ask a few questions on your behalf... I'll come back with his reply ASAP, sorry for delay. "meee" wrote in message ... Hi, I was wondering if you would know where I can get pine litter in Australia? All that seems to be available here is clay and newspaper litters that don't work very well and the cats' don't like. Any help would be appreciated!! wrote in message news:Ji9Jf.24223$sa3.14328@pd7tw1no... Clumping clay litter that contains sodium bentonite is extremely dangerous for your felines as when ingested during normal grooming from the paws, it forms hard clumps in their digestive tracts which can cause anything from pain to death. If you're using a product that fits this description and most especially if you have a long haired cat that gets quite a bit of litter stuck to their fur, I'd say that was a pretty dangerous combination. Besides the obvious health concerns with the clumping agent, these kinds of litters have harmful silica dust that your cat and you inhale that damages breathing surfaces permanently and is also a known carcinogen. Several years before I educated myself on this matter, I had a cat die from the effects of clumping litter in her system and it was a slow and painful death that I will feel guilty about for the rest of my life. As if all of that wasn't bad enough, clay mines are not eco-friendly either. I really have nothing good to say about clay litters, and most especially about clumping clay litters. My veterinarian was NO help whatsoever with figuring out this problem, so don't expect yours to be! Don't put yourself through the guilt or your cat through the pain. What seems like common sense in hindsight was something nobody figured out at the time, and so many cats are suffering needlessly while the makers of these products count their blood money and insist their customers are perfectly happy injuring and killing their beloved pets with their "convenient" products. ***Alternatives*** Try pine wood pellet, corn or wheat litters. They're natural and safe as long as the pine kind is only made from kiln-dried (natural oils-removed) pine sawdust formed into pellets and the corn/wheat varieties don't have any pesticide residues. (i.e. buy commercially prepared ones, don't try to make your own.) I buy a very large bag of it twice a year and that's it! It's $20 or $25 but that's Canadian money too, so it should be even cheaper if you're in the States. The shelter I got Tashi from was using a pine wood litter so I got the same thing to ease her transition and I'm so glad I did. It's amazing. There is NO unpleasant scent whatsoever! Not right away and not two, three or even four weeks later. After a month I change Tashi's litter, even though I can literally pick up her litter box and sniff it and still detect no scent at all. By then the pellets are mostly saw dust and that's when it's time to replace them. I do remove solid waste right away, and a little saw dust usually sticks to that, but it's perfectly safe to flush small amounts of saw dust. When I dump out the litter into a big green garbage bag, I place the pan in the tub and pour boiling water all around the sides and into it and let it sit for a while. Then I dump the water down the toilet and dry the pan with a paper towel. Because I'm using soft wood instead of hard silica, the pan stays in perfect non-scratched condition so it's easy to keep it hygienic. It always looks brand new to be honest. Pine litter is environmentally friendly and 100% natural and safe to use. It's so long lasting, controls odors perfectly and is affordable. It has no dust during use or while cleaning and replacing for you or your cat to inhale. It doesn't stick to your cat or track all over the house. I never thought a litter would come along as perfect as pine litter. Even the most finicky nose can not even detect it's presence in the home and almost too good to be true, it's inexpensive too - it's like a dream come true if you ask me. You pour out pellets and as the litter gets used up, it turns to saw dust. At no point along the way does it have a bad smell... just give it a stir when removing poop (if you want, usually I don't even do that) and when it's more sawdust and less pellets, replace it... very simple and easy to use. Messing with the litter a cat is used to can be problematic, so if you want to switch to pine litter, put an inch of it underneath a layer of your current product without stirring and slowly reduce your current product until nothing is left but the pine pellets. If your cat has any setbacks, simply slow down the process. Another option would be to toilet train your cats. Some say it's not natural and no cat would ever do such a thing willingly, which is not true. When I was growing up, we had a cat that taught himself to use the toilet, so don't let someone with an agenda (or maybe just jealous?) tell you what's normal and natural and what isn't. If your cat doesn't want to learn toilet training, trust me, it won't. Cats do not humor us with stupid pet tricks. They leave that sort of thing to dogs and humans. So you see there is absolutely no need to put up with indoor cat smelly litter anymore, those days are gone forever for me and I love it. The above was taken from Tashi's website and reworded slightly. ================================================== "ensoul" wrote in message oups.com... we have cats, male, fixed, ayear old indoor cats, we always buy them food for indoor cats got them at the SPCA, even though we have a small place I asked if we sahould have 2 litter boxes, they said yes since some cats don't like sharing....we've tried so many different kinds, have spray called OUT for urine and feces odor and a Arm & Hammer product that you sprinkle on top of the litter, they help some, and one of cats, not sure which one doesn't cover his poop.....I scoop them every day...please don't suggest one of those machines that self cleans they run $100 and we can't afforfd....as always apprecaite your suggestions. ensoul Put your ear down close to your soul and listen hard. ~Anne Sexton |
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thankyou very much!! I really appreciate you going to all this trouble
wrote in message news:E%9Jf.24722$sa3.21318@pd7tw1no... I get Tashi's at the big pet supply store here (In Canada) called Pet Cetera or whatever it's called. I have a friend who owns a cat in Orange, so I've written him to ask a few questions on your behalf... I'll come back with his reply ASAP, sorry for delay. "meee" wrote in message ... Hi, I was wondering if you would know where I can get pine litter in Australia? All that seems to be available here is clay and newspaper litters that don't work very well and the cats' don't like. Any help would be appreciated!! wrote in message news:Ji9Jf.24223$sa3.14328@pd7tw1no... Clumping clay litter that contains sodium bentonite is extremely dangerous for your felines as when ingested during normal grooming from the paws, it forms hard clumps in their digestive tracts which can cause anything from pain to death. If you're using a product that fits this description and most especially if you have a long haired cat that gets quite a bit of litter stuck to their fur, I'd say that was a pretty dangerous combination. Besides the obvious health concerns with the clumping agent, these kinds of litters have harmful silica dust that your cat and you inhale that damages breathing surfaces permanently and is also a known carcinogen. Several years before I educated myself on this matter, I had a cat die from the effects of clumping litter in her system and it was a slow and painful death that I will feel guilty about for the rest of my life. As if all of that wasn't bad enough, clay mines are not eco-friendly either. I really have nothing good to say about clay litters, and most especially about clumping clay litters. My veterinarian was NO help whatsoever with figuring out this problem, so don't expect yours to be! Don't put yourself through the guilt or your cat through the pain. What seems like common sense in hindsight was something nobody figured out at the time, and so many cats are suffering needlessly while the makers of these products count their blood money and insist their customers are perfectly happy injuring and killing their beloved pets with their "convenient" products. ***Alternatives*** Try pine wood pellet, corn or wheat litters. They're natural and safe as long as the pine kind is only made from kiln-dried (natural oils-removed) pine sawdust formed into pellets and the corn/wheat varieties don't have any pesticide residues. (i.e. buy commercially prepared ones, don't try to make your own.) I buy a very large bag of it twice a year and that's it! It's $20 or $25 but that's Canadian money too, so it should be even cheaper if you're in the States. The shelter I got Tashi from was using a pine wood litter so I got the same thing to ease her transition and I'm so glad I did. It's amazing. There is NO unpleasant scent whatsoever! Not right away and not two, three or even four weeks later. After a month I change Tashi's litter, even though I can literally pick up her litter box and sniff it and still detect no scent at all. By then the pellets are mostly saw dust and that's when it's time to replace them. I do remove solid waste right away, and a little saw dust usually sticks to that, but it's perfectly safe to flush small amounts of saw dust. When I dump out the litter into a big green garbage bag, I place the pan in the tub and pour boiling water all around the sides and into it and let it sit for a while. Then I dump the water down the toilet and dry the pan with a paper towel. Because I'm using soft wood instead of hard silica, the pan stays in perfect non-scratched condition so it's easy to keep it hygienic. It always looks brand new to be honest. Pine litter is environmentally friendly and 100% natural and safe to use. It's so long lasting, controls odors perfectly and is affordable. It has no dust during use or while cleaning and replacing for you or your cat to inhale. It doesn't stick to your cat or track all over the house. I never thought a litter would come along as perfect as pine litter. Even the most finicky nose can not even detect it's presence in the home and almost too good to be true, it's inexpensive too - it's like a dream come true if you ask me. You pour out pellets and as the litter gets used up, it turns to saw dust. At no point along the way does it have a bad smell... just give it a stir when removing poop (if you want, usually I don't even do that) and when it's more sawdust and less pellets, replace it... very simple and easy to use. Messing with the litter a cat is used to can be problematic, so if you want to switch to pine litter, put an inch of it underneath a layer of your current product without stirring and slowly reduce your current product until nothing is left but the pine pellets. If your cat has any setbacks, simply slow down the process. Another option would be to toilet train your cats. Some say it's not natural and no cat would ever do such a thing willingly, which is not true. When I was growing up, we had a cat that taught himself to use the toilet, so don't let someone with an agenda (or maybe just jealous?) tell you what's normal and natural and what isn't. If your cat doesn't want to learn toilet training, trust me, it won't. Cats do not humor us with stupid pet tricks. They leave that sort of thing to dogs and humans. So you see there is absolutely no need to put up with indoor cat smelly litter anymore, those days are gone forever for me and I love it. The above was taken from Tashi's website and reworded slightly. ================================================== "ensoul" wrote in message oups.com... we have cats, male, fixed, ayear old indoor cats, we always buy them food for indoor cats got them at the SPCA, even though we have a small place I asked if we sahould have 2 litter boxes, they said yes since some cats don't like sharing....we've tried so many different kinds, have spray called OUT for urine and feces odor and a Arm & Hammer product that you sprinkle on top of the litter, they help some, and one of cats, not sure which one doesn't cover his poop.....I scoop them every day...please don't suggest one of those machines that self cleans they run $100 and we can't afforfd....as always apprecaite your suggestions. ensoul Put your ear down close to your soul and listen hard. ~Anne Sexton |
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