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SHOULD I TAKE HIM TO A VET?
Many of the people in these usenet pets groups work in Veterinarian
Clinics, which makes them biased. In my city of Tucson, Arizona it is very difficult to find a Vet that will agree to reduced cost services, or even payment plans to low income pet owners,regardless of the circumstances. Their motto might as well be PROFIT FIRST, ANIMAL WELFARE SECOND. Many of these outfits are run by corporations, are bloated practices or have greedy practitioners. This is in contrast to at least two other cities I have lived in where a vet would often treat an animal for free if the owner could not afford it. So I suspect this is a problem local to Arizona, which is not suprising given the State ranks so low in nearly every quality of life research measure. There is a definite lack of professionalism and ethics in this regard in the Vet community in Tucson. They don't care if your animal is sick. What is important to them is if you can PAY NOW IN FULL. This is partly the fault of the do nothing state government here that does little or nothing to promote or enforce ethical standards in this or other professions. Frequently,Arizona is thought of as the State where Easterners who could not make the grade come to be free to practice in their substandard, unprofessional ways (go west young man). Recall also that Arizona is a right-wing pro-business, anti-union State. Hit the road jack if you cannot pay- I don't care if Fido IS suffering. Therefore, I have posted this to let other pet owners know. GUESS WHAT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THESE SHYSTER QUACKS. If you are literate and willing to do a little reading, YOU CAN TREAT 90% of your pets problems on your own. Only the more serious and complicated medical problems which require surgery, etc is a vet needed. There are many sources on the net for veterinary medications and at least several do not require any "please, may I?" prescriptions from capitalist pig profit mongers. You can order online and the order will be delivered to your door. There are OTHER sources of medication as well. You just have to do some searching and reading. Stock up on what you need quickly because corrupt capitalistic pig Vet orgs are acting to stop any access to medical supplies so you will be forced to come to their dues paying members and pay their surcharges on medicines as well as their exorbitant consult fees. The way it works in Amerika is these so called professional organizations pay "contributions" to get politicians elected to do their bidding, basically a corrupt, bribe driven system. If you get yourself a good software search engine, such as Copernic or Firststop websearch, both of which have free versions, your search for information on how to TREAT your pet will be greatly simplified. Google by itself simply doesn't do it any more. There is an abundance of up to date, well written, articles on how to diagnose and treat your pet on the web. alot of which is written by DVMs. You only have to know how to search for it, which is really quite simple. You will often find that you know more about a particular problem than the Vet that is charging you $50 just to walk through the door, and much more for meds and actual treatment. Many of the medical problems your pet has you will be able to diagnose and treat yourself, ASSUMING that you are literate and have the time to read and educate yourself. It does not take that much time. Do not listen to the flamers in pets groups that keep insisting that everything has to be taken to one of these unprofessional money grubbers. The people in pets groups are often the ones who are profiting from your taking the animal to the vet, usually at outrageously high prices. And you will have the satisfaction of knowing your pet was treated by someone who REALLY DOES care about the welfare of animals-YOU! I will soon be starting a web interest group for pet owners to share and develop information on how to treat their animals themselves along with information on how to report unethical and unprofessional workers in the vet care industry. Examples of people I know who have successfully treated their pets recently are successful treatment of respiratory infection, eye infection, etc. Here are a couple URLS to get you started (took me about 10 min to find these, more to come) You vet may be reluctant to give you a prescription for the ones who require prescriptions since he/she loses her cut that way. http://top-drugs.com/index.php - may be a good source for meds http://www.medi-vet.com/ -sounds like they require prescriptions blehhhhh! http://www.1800petmeds.com/ http://www.animalcarecenter.com/index-2.html good info on the war to keep shysters control over prescriptions http://www.kittens-lair.net/cat-heal...dications-for- cats.htm l-good article on what NOT to give your cat http://home.howstuffworks.com/cat-care-tips-channel.htm cat care tips |
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"u" wrote in message ...
Many of the people in these usenet pets groups work in Veterinarian Clinics, which makes them biased. snipped more blather I've found that most vet clinics have been *forced* to ask for payment up front or payment in full because, unless they do, they are often "stiffed" by people who seem to be able to find the money for their SUVs, vacations, and luxury items, but always seem to be too poor to pay for medical care for their pets. CatNipped |
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"u" wrote in message ... Many of the people in these usenet pets groups work in Veterinarian Clinics, which makes them biased. I'm not even reading any further. Asshole. |
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SHOULD I TAKE HIM TO A VET?
"u" wrote in message ... Many of the people in these usenet pets groups work in Veterinarian Clinics, which makes them biased. ...........oh really? Gosh I've been here for years and didn't know that. How unobservant of me. If you are literate and willing to do a little reading, YOU CAN TREAT 90% of your pets problems on your own. Only the more serious and complicated medical problems which require surgery, etc is a vet needed. ..........and by the time you're done dicking around those serious cases end up dead. Tell me, how do you differentiate between Cushings, hypothyroidism, Addison's disease and diabetes by yourself? How about Ehrlichia - do you even know the symptoms? Think you can test for that on your own? The people in pets groups are often the ones who are profiting from your taking the animal to the vet, ............oh you twit, I wish I had ONE THIN DIME for the hours I've poured into answering questions over the years. I will soon be starting a web interest group for pet owners to share and develop information on how to treat their animals themselves ...........don't bother. Being literate is only half the battle. It also takes intelligence. Oh, BTW, I don't work in a vet clinic bye bye now buglady take out the dog before replying |
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SHOULD I TAKE HIM TO A VET?
"CatNipped" wrote in
: "u" wrote in message ... Many of the people in these usenet pets groups work in Veterinarian Clinics, which makes them biased. I bet that is what they use as an excuse. Funny how they seem to be able to support a building, nice style of living, cars and multiple employees on being "stiffed" so often. Never has one mentioned this as the reason they will not work with pet owners. There is no professionalism in this field, no sincere regard for animals well being. The almight dollar governs their behavior, similar to common prostitutes. I've found that most vet clinics have been *forced* to ask for payment up front or payment in full because, unless they do, they are often "stiffed" by people who seem to be able to find the money for their SUVs, snipped more blather CatNipped |
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"cybercat" wrote in :
"u" wrote in message ... Many of the people in these usenet pets groups work in Veterinarian Clinics, which makes them biased. I'm not even reading any further. Probably a vet or vet tech, no doubt. This is the caliber of people currently in this "profession" here in Tucson. I know, I have dealt with them at their businesses. Asshole. |
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"buglady" wrote in
: "u" wrote in message ... Many of the people in these usenet pets groups work in Veterinarian Clinics, which makes them biased. ..........oh really? Gosh I've been here for years and didn't know that. How unobservant of me. Actually yes, that is why there is such hostility towards any reluctance to take an animal to these unprofessional profiteers in these pet groups, because there are many earning their money from treating animals. If you are literate and willing to do a little reading, YOU CAN TREAT 90% of your pets problems on your own. Only the more serious and complicated medical problems which require surgery, etc is a vet needed. .........and by the time you're done dicking around those serious cases end up dead. Tell me, how do you differentiate between Cushings, hypothyroidism, Addison's disease and diabetes by yourself? How about Ehrlichia - do you even know the symptoms? Think you can test for that on your own? I don't "dick around" when it comes to treating my pets. And more importantly, I don't put up with bull**** from vets who are trying to overtreat the animal to increase their profit margins. I often find once I have researched the symptoms and treatment for any particular illness, I know more than these so called professionals. Only time I will take pet to a vet is if special equipment or surgery is required, or I cannot make a proper diagnosis. But as you purposely have ignored the vast majority of pet problems can be handled by the owner if he/she has average IQ and can read and doesn't by into this crap about everything needs to go to these profiteers. The people in pets groups are often the ones who are profiting from your taking the animal to the vet, ...........oh you twit, I wish I had ONE THIN DIME for the hours I've poured into answering questions over the years. Of course groups like these can offer answers, but much better advice can be found in comprehensive articles on the web written true experts in the field. And guess what, they don't charge you $50 each time you read their free articles. There still are a few good vets around, but have not run into any lately. I will soon be starting a web interest group for pet owners to share and develop information on how to treat their animals themselves ..........don't bother. Being literate is only half the battle. It also takes intelligence. Then why do you keep offering your free advice here? Oh, BTW, I don't work in a vet clinic bye bye now adios, vaya con dios buggy lady buglady take out the dog before replying |
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"Matthew" wrote in message
... Crossposting removed Gee does this sound like the idiot from last month using the email .............didn't notice that he had followups set to this group and the az group only, after initially crossposting it to dog groups. Must be a cat person and you probably have seen him here before. buglady take out the dog before replying |
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SHOULD I TAKE HIM TO A VET?
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:36:31 +0200 (CEST), u wrote:
Many of the people in these usenet pets groups work in Veterinarian Clinics, which makes them biased. In my city of Tucson, Arizona it is very difficult to find a Vet that will agree to reduced cost services, or even payment plans to low income pet owners,regardless of the circumstances. Their motto might as well be PROFIT FIRST, ANIMAL WELFARE SECOND. Many of these outfits are run by corporations, are bloated practices or have greedy practitioners. This is in contrast to at least two other cities I have lived in where a vet would often treat an animal for free if the owner could not afford it. So I suspect this is a problem local to Arizona, which is not suprising given the State ranks so low in nearly every quality of life research measure. There is a definite lack of professionalism and ethics in this regard in the Vet community in Tucson. They don't care if your animal is sick. What is important to them is if you can PAY NOW IN FULL. This is partly the fault of the do nothing state government here that does little or nothing to promote or enforce ethical standards in this or other professions. Frequently,Arizona is thought of as the State where Easterners who could not make the grade come to be free to practice in their substandard, unprofessional ways (go west young man). Recall also that Arizona is a right-wing pro-business, anti-union State. Hit the road jack if you cannot pay- I don't care if Fido IS suffering. Therefore, I have posted this to let other pet owners know. GUESS WHAT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THESE SHYSTER QUACKS. If you are literate and willing to do a little reading, YOU CAN TREAT 90% of your pets problems on your own. Only the more serious and complicated medical problems which require surgery, etc is a vet needed. You can also likely treat 90% of human diseases yourself from internet information. I suggest you start reading up on "do it yourself psychotherapy". Here in NYC I notice that the vets need to be paid as well. That's probably because they like to feed their families. |
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"dgk" wrote in message ... On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:36:31 +0200 (CEST), u wrote: Many of the people in these usenet pets groups work in Veterinarian Clinics, which makes them biased. In my city of Tucson, Arizona it is very difficult to find a Vet that will agree to reduced cost services, or even payment plans to low income pet owners,regardless of the circumstances. Their motto might as well be PROFIT FIRST, ANIMAL WELFARE SECOND. Many of these outfits are run by corporations, are bloated practices or have greedy practitioners. This is in contrast to at least two other cities I have lived in where a vet would often treat an animal for free if the owner could not afford it. So I suspect this is a problem local to Arizona, which is not suprising given the State ranks so low in nearly every quality of life research measure. There is a definite lack of professionalism and ethics in this regard in the Vet community in Tucson. They don't care if your animal is sick. What is important to them is if you can PAY NOW IN FULL. This is partly the fault of the do nothing state government here that does little or nothing to promote or enforce ethical standards in this or other professions. Frequently,Arizona is thought of as the State where Easterners who could not make the grade come to be free to practice in their substandard, unprofessional ways (go west young man). Recall also that Arizona is a right-wing pro-business, anti-union State. Hit the road jack if you cannot pay- I don't care if Fido IS suffering. Therefore, I have posted this to let other pet owners know. GUESS WHAT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THESE SHYSTER QUACKS. If you are literate and willing to do a little reading, YOU CAN TREAT 90% of your pets problems on your own. Only the more serious and complicated medical problems which require surgery, etc is a vet needed. You can also likely treat 90% of human diseases yourself from internet information. I suggest you start reading up on "do it yourself psychotherapy". haha! It's the crazy people who make Usenet fun. |
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