Best wet food for keeping cystitis away?

From: "Karen M."

Alison Perera wrote:

In article ,
(Karen M.) wrote:


Alison,
Your post was kind of confusing, but in the following post G2 says he
worked for PetSmart for years, that's why he "knows" so much. I didn't
realize PetSmart *had* nutritional specialists...


*My* post was kind of confusing? Sorry, but I definitely think that
Lauren's post,

Sorry, I simply meant I couldn't figure out who said what. My response
came before the error in attributing came out, so my post ended up
looking just as screwy as others...

"It sure is like talking to a brick wall, isn't it? I have a very strong
suspicion that Chris aka is another Hill's rep posting
here. Check this out:"

confused the issue more than anything. And when you responded,

"That's quite interesting Lauren! Makes one wonder, does it not?? "

AFTER Chris refuted authorship of the post that Lauren quoted, it
definitely seemed time to set the record straight.

Yes, that came after I posted, as stated previously.

Sorry, Karen. Didn't mean for you to get mixed up in my mistake

Lauren
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From: "Karen M."

Alison Perera wrote:

In article ,
(Karen M.) wrote:


Alison,
Your post was kind of confusing, but in the following post G2 says he
worked for PetSmart for years, that's why he "knows" so much. I didn't
realize PetSmart *had* nutritional specialists...


*My* post was kind of confusing? Sorry, but I definitely think that
Lauren's post,

Sorry, I simply meant I couldn't figure out who said what. My response
came before the error in attributing came out, so my post ended up
looking just as screwy as others...

"It sure is like talking to a brick wall, isn't it? I have a very strong
suspicion that Chris aka is another Hill's rep posting
here. Check this out:"

confused the issue more than anything. And when you responded,

"That's quite interesting Lauren! Makes one wonder, does it not?? "

AFTER Chris refuted authorship of the post that Lauren quoted, it
definitely seemed time to set the record straight.

Yes, that came after I posted, as stated previously.

Sorry, Karen. Didn't mean for you to get mixed up in my mistake

Lauren
________
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Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: "Karen M."

Alison Perera wrote:

In article ,
(Karen M.) wrote:


Alison,
Your post was kind of confusing, but in the following post G2 says he
worked for PetSmart for years, that's why he "knows" so much. I didn't
realize PetSmart *had* nutritional specialists...


*My* post was kind of confusing? Sorry, but I definitely think that
Lauren's post,

Sorry, I simply meant I couldn't figure out who said what. My response
came before the error in attributing came out, so my post ended up
looking just as screwy as others...

"It sure is like talking to a brick wall, isn't it? I have a very strong
suspicion that Chris aka is another Hill's rep posting
here. Check this out:"

confused the issue more than anything. And when you responded,

"That's quite interesting Lauren! Makes one wonder, does it not?? "

AFTER Chris refuted authorship of the post that Lauren quoted, it
definitely seemed time to set the record straight.

Yes, that came after I posted, as stated previously.

Sorry, Karen. Didn't mean for you to get mixed up in my mistake

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: "Karen M."

Maybe it's because I've been lurking in rpdh for quite some time, but it
seems obvious to me that Chris is no Hill's rep, but simply a Hill's
enthusiast on the warpath. Whether he was set on that warpath from
experience at PetsMart or simple pet-ownership experience makes no
difference to any discussion here, and I saw no claim in the post you
linked as to his having been employed as a "nutritional specialist" at
PetsMart.

I was not saying he was employed as an *actual* Nutritional Specialist,
but he stated he learned a lot about nutrition from working there, which
I find rather odd since he's only talking to market reps and not
veterinarians, so sorry again for the confusion. But I do find find that
fact somewhat relevant to the discussion, as I've been wanting to know
where he's gotten his "facts" from and it sounds like he's gotten at
least some of it from his days at PetSmart, a place that, in my
experience, is not well known for providing a lot of factual information
. Just my .02 cents.

K

I've been approached while shopping at Petsmart by a few reps from pet food
companies. In my experience, their information about feline nutrition was
definitely biased, depending on which company the rep worked for. Also, none
of them seemed like they knew what the heck they were talking about.

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: "Karen M."

Maybe it's because I've been lurking in rpdh for quite some time, but it
seems obvious to me that Chris is no Hill's rep, but simply a Hill's
enthusiast on the warpath. Whether he was set on that warpath from
experience at PetsMart or simple pet-ownership experience makes no
difference to any discussion here, and I saw no claim in the post you
linked as to his having been employed as a "nutritional specialist" at
PetsMart.

I was not saying he was employed as an *actual* Nutritional Specialist,
but he stated he learned a lot about nutrition from working there, which
I find rather odd since he's only talking to market reps and not
veterinarians, so sorry again for the confusion. But I do find find that
fact somewhat relevant to the discussion, as I've been wanting to know
where he's gotten his "facts" from and it sounds like he's gotten at
least some of it from his days at PetSmart, a place that, in my
experience, is not well known for providing a lot of factual information
. Just my .02 cents.

K

I've been approached while shopping at Petsmart by a few reps from pet food
companies. In my experience, their information about feline nutrition was
definitely biased, depending on which company the rep worked for. Also, none
of them seemed like they knew what the heck they were talking about.

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: "Karen M."

Maybe it's because I've been lurking in rpdh for quite some time, but it
seems obvious to me that Chris is no Hill's rep, but simply a Hill's
enthusiast on the warpath. Whether he was set on that warpath from
experience at PetsMart or simple pet-ownership experience makes no
difference to any discussion here, and I saw no claim in the post you
linked as to his having been employed as a "nutritional specialist" at
PetsMart.

I was not saying he was employed as an *actual* Nutritional Specialist,
but he stated he learned a lot about nutrition from working there, which
I find rather odd since he's only talking to market reps and not
veterinarians, so sorry again for the confusion. But I do find find that
fact somewhat relevant to the discussion, as I've been wanting to know
where he's gotten his "facts" from and it sounds like he's gotten at
least some of it from his days at PetSmart, a place that, in my
experience, is not well known for providing a lot of factual information
. Just my .02 cents.

K

I've been approached while shopping at Petsmart by a few reps from pet food
companies. In my experience, their information about feline nutrition was
definitely biased, depending on which company the rep worked for. Also, none
of them seemed like they knew what the heck they were talking about.

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: Alison Perera lid

(GAUBSTER2) wrote:

"I'm providing an example of something "natural" being included in
certain foods that can be thought of as "gross" and is completely
unneccessary for healthy cats to begin with."

Hey Chris, is it completely unnecessary for healthy women to keep up
their acidophilous intake--yannow, eat yogurt and what not as we've been
told to do--in order to stave off vaginal yeast infections? Inquiring
minds want to know.

LOL! I can't wait to hear the response to this!
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: Alison Perera lid

(GAUBSTER2) wrote:

"I'm providing an example of something "natural" being included in
certain foods that can be thought of as "gross" and is completely
unneccessary for healthy cats to begin with."

Hey Chris, is it completely unnecessary for healthy women to keep up
their acidophilous intake--yannow, eat yogurt and what not as we've been
told to do--in order to stave off vaginal yeast infections? Inquiring
minds want to know.

LOL! I can't wait to hear the response to this!
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: Alison Perera lid

(GAUBSTER2) wrote:

"I'm providing an example of something "natural" being included in
certain foods that can be thought of as "gross" and is completely
unneccessary for healthy cats to begin with."

Hey Chris, is it completely unnecessary for healthy women to keep up
their acidophilous intake--yannow, eat yogurt and what not as we've been
told to do--in order to stave off vaginal yeast infections? Inquiring
minds want to know.

LOL! I can't wait to hear the response to this!
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

In ,
GAUBSTER2 composed with style:

Karen, I'm not a Nutritional Specialist, whatever that is. I used
to believe the same crap that is commonly repeated by people who
parrot what others say w/o doing any checking on it at all.

Interesting choice of words. Parroting. Hmph.

I did
do my research on topics and asked for a lot of information by
various company reps. The only reps who could ever provide
anything legitimate at all was Hill's. I tried their products and
noticed an amazing turnaround in my cats.

Want to explain why all of the diets are formulated with corn gluten
in the first or second ingredient, even when those diets are for cats
with digestive problems? I'm talking about the Prescription diets, ID
and ZD. Specifically to "treat" or help a cat with IBD. I took the
advice of my cats former vet and tried both and if you happened to
have been around back then I was frantic over a condition that I'm
positive caused it - leaky gut syndrome. He couldn't digest it. Vet
didn't know what to do because those foods were supposed to "help"
him. Changed vets, was told "No Hill's" switched slowly to Wellness,
cat gets better. Not cured, but not drooling and ready to give up
life.

Just another story of "why it DIDN'T work". I'd love to see any
statistics of cats with IBD actually get better on a Hill's
prescription diet. Would LOVE to see it.