[OT] Age Appropriate Dress?

On 04 Feb 2006 22:34:20 GMT, wrote:

Enfilade wrote:

All three graphic designers took the "technical" stream in high school
and went to college as opposed to university...They consider themselves
"skilled workers" as opposed to "Executives" and they're proud of it

Ah... kind of in a similar way to how typesetters, who now sit in
offices and use computers, used to work with metal type, which was a
blue-collar and unionized trade?


Well, for that matter, I have 20 years experience as a programmer (and
college degrees in both electronics and programming, as well as a
Bachelor's degree in History), and class myself as a "skilled worker".
I lack the desire to manage others, and my social skills (I fit the
near-Asberger's nerd stereotype fairly well) are such that I probably
wouldn't be all that successful as a manager.

--
John F. Eldredge --
PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu
"Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better
than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria

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Jo Firey wrote:
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I can assure you that you aren't. I had to wear one of those as
matron of honor at my sister's wedding, and I hated it.

Well, didn't it make you look "matronly"? ducking and running

--

Wayne M.

LOL! Actually, I wasn't worrying about how it looked that day,
because I was too busy struggling to breathe. Although I hadn't yet
been diagnosed, I
was having an asthma attack. I didn't want to spoil my sister's
wedding or
reception, so I didn't say anything until we were ready to leave.
Then my husband took me to Emergency.

Joy



A cup of strong black coffee can be a real help in a situation like
that. It contains drugs that are similar to theophylin that help open
up the lungs. Proper treatment is better of course, but coffee can
be a real help in the mean time.

Jo

Also good chocolate, it contains theobromine which is part of the same
family.
--
Adrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera)
A House is not a home, without a cat.
http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk

I like the sound of that better than the coffee. ;-) Of course, with
coffee, I'd have trouble drinking it. With chocolate, the problem would be
actually having some around that I hadn't already eaten. Of course, if I
just eat a lot of chocolate every day, then I probably won't have any asthma
attacks, right?

Joy (rushing out to stock up on chocolate)

A cup of strong black coffee can be a real help in a situation like
that. It contains drugs that are similar to theophylin that help open
up the lungs. Proper treatment is better of course, but coffee can
be a real help in the mean time.
Also good chocolate, it contains theobromine which is part of the same
family.
Adrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera)
.. I like the sound of that better than the coffee. ;-) Of course, with
coffee, I'd have trouble drinking it. With chocolate, the problem would
be
actually having some around that I hadn't already eaten. Of course, if I
just eat a lot of chocolate every day, then I probably won't have any
asthma
attacks, right?
Joy (rushing out to stock up on chocolate)

ROFL.....

wrote:
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:

I'm certainly NOT saying you shouldn't wear "pretty"
clothes - just that large women should use a little common
sense when buying them.

Why "should" they, Evelyn? Why shouldn't they just wear what they
please? What laws are being broken, legal or ethical?

Aesthetic? ;-) Unless a woman really WANTS to look
grotesque, common sense dictates that she not wear something
she knows is unflattering! (Certainly not when there are
available alternatives that are more becoming and minimize
her flaws.)

And if you
answer, "aesthetic laws", that is your own subjective opinion. You
don't have a lock on what constitutes beauty.

True. However it's not exactly "subjective" when most
people are agreed upon certain basics! If you don't CARE
whether you look your best, and prefer to wear things that
don't suit you, just to make a point, it's not MY problem.
(Although IMO anyone who claims to feel that way should
probably consider therapy.) Those of us who live in the
real world prefer not to appear ridiculous when an easier
alternative exists - i.e. to choose our clothes with care
and actually SEE ourselves in them when we look in a mirror.

dnr wrote:

Mills (now Mills/Peninsula) hospital.

Ah, OK. I don't think I've heard of that hospital. I used to live in
Sunnyvale (shiral lives there now), so if I needed hospital care, I
went to El Camino in Mountain View.

The only times I went to Oakland
was on BART which let you out right in the bargain basement of some
big store (I think called Emporium-Capwell)

Yeah, the Emporium went out of business some years ago. I didn't live
around here when the BART station went to that store.

I bought a lot of funky 80's clothes/shoes there
(remember Flashdance raggedy knitwear? LOL).

LOL is right. I used to wear that stuff! (blush )

I did go to Jack London Square once

You should see it now - it's all yuppified now, a big tourist
attraction.

Joyce

John F. Eldredge wrote:

Well, for that matter, I have 20 years experience as a programmer (and
college degrees in both electronics and programming, as well as a
Bachelor's degree in History), and class myself as a "skilled worker".

That makes sense. Other than the fact that programmers are extremely
well-paid, which makes them middle-class, the work itself is certainly
of the skilled-worker variety.

I lack the desire to manage others, and my social skills (I fit the
near-Asberger's nerd stereotype fairly well) are such that I probably
wouldn't be all that successful as a manager.

Wow, you don't come across that way at all online! I've worked in the
Silicon Valley for years and the place is filled with such people, so
I'm quite familiar with it. But you don't have that extremely annoying
habit of correcting people all the time when they get some trivial
factoid wrong.

I never wanted to be a manager, either, and probably wouldn't have
succeeded at it. It's good to know one's limitations. Luckily, the high
tech field offers lots of opportunities for professional growth as an
individual contributor.

Joyce

On 05 Feb 2006 02:45:00 GMT, wrote:

John F. Eldredge wrote:

I lack the desire to manage others, and my social skills (I fit the
near-Asberger's nerd stereotype fairly well) are such that I probably
wouldn't be all that successful as a manager.

Wow, you don't come across that way at all online! I've worked in the
Silicon Valley for years and the place is filled with such people, so
I'm quite familiar with it. But you don't have that extremely annoying
habit of correcting people all the time when they get some trivial
factoid wrong.


Well, I have mostly trained myself out of the arguing-over-minutia
bit. I had more tendency towards that in my younger years, as my
sister could probably tell you. I also don't fit the neat-freak
stereotype, tending to be a messy housekeeper.

--
John F. Eldredge --
PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu
"Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better
than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria

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Jo Firey wrote:
"Yoj" wrote in message
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"Wayne Mitchell" wrote in message
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A cup of strong black coffee can be a real help in a situation like
that. It contains drugs that are similar to theophylin that help open
up the lungs. Proper treatment is better of course, but coffee can
be a real help in the mean time.

Jo

Also good chocolate, it contains theobromine which is part of the same
family.

The family is the methylxanthines, of which the major members are
caffeine, theophylline, and theobromine. Aminophylline is a modified
form of theophylline that is injectable, but really has no current
place in the treatment of asthma.

Of the three main alkaloids, theophylline, as has been suggested, is
the strongest bronchodilator, which helps in an acute asthma attack.
Of common beverages, strong tea has the greatest amount of actual
theophylline. Coffee has the most caffeine.

John F. Eldredge wrote:

Well, I have mostly trained myself out of the arguing-over-minutia
bit. I had more tendency towards that in my younger years, as my
sister could probably tell you.

That makes sense. It does seem like something that a child, especially
one who can't figure out the social world, might fasten on as a way to
relate to people. And most nerdy kids are treated horribly. Their smarts
are often the only way they can level the field.

I also don't fit the neat-freak
stereotype, tending to be a messy housekeeper.

Hmm... I know a number of computer geeks who have the same type of
personality you're talking about, and they're total slobs. I think it
has to do with being oriented toward the cerebral, and not paying
that much attention to the physical environment. Two people I'm thinking
of in particular, a couple, have an expensive house on which they have
never spent any time or money in decorating. However, they've filled it
with all sorts of electronic stuff and cool gadgets and toys.

Joyce

In article , Yoj
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"Adrian" wrote in message
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Jo Firey wrote:
"Yoj" wrote in message
. com...
"Wayne Mitchell" wrote in message
news "Yoj" wrote:

I can assure you that you aren't. I had to wear one of those as
matron of honor at my sister's wedding, and I hated it.

Well, didn't it make you look "matronly"? ducking and running

--

Wayne M.

LOL! Actually, I wasn't worrying about how it looked that day,
because I was too busy struggling to breathe. Although I hadn't yet
been diagnosed, I
was having an asthma attack. I didn't want to spoil my sister's
wedding or
reception, so I didn't say anything until we were ready to leave.
Then my husband took me to Emergency.

Joy



A cup of strong black coffee can be a real help in a situation like
that. It contains drugs that are similar to theophylin that help open
up the lungs. Proper treatment is better of course, but coffee can
be a real help in the mean time.

Jo

Also good chocolate, it contains theobromine which is part of the same
family.
--
Adrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera)
A House is not a home, without a cat.
http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk

I like the sound of that better than the coffee. ;-) Of course, with
coffee, I'd have trouble drinking it. With chocolate, the problem would be
actually having some around that I hadn't already eaten. Of course, if I
just eat a lot of chocolate every day, then I probably won't have any asthma
attacks, right?

Joy (rushing out to stock up on chocolate)

While it's not a methylxanthine, chocolate is also rich in
phenylalanine. That appears to be a euphoriant and possibly sexual
stimulant, with studies indicating a higher response in women.