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Old July 14th 05, 03:36 AM
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My cat is bonkers!!! All my husband and I have ever done was try to
love him and give him tons of attention. I don't work, so I am at
home and play with him all day. His litter box is always clean... he
always has fresh food and water... and we give him kitty snacks all the
time. He is so spoiled! We treat him better than we treat people!

When we got him as a kitten he was very scared of people... and
anything that moved or made noise. We had to keep him in master
bathroom... and then gradually move him into our bedroom... and then
into the living room... and so on. We did this to make him feel more
comfortable with his new surroundings. This process took much longer
than it does for most cats. He spent a week and a half in the bathroom
before he felt comfortable enough to go into our bedroom! He is
horrified of being picked up and doesn't like being touched much.
The only kind of human interaction he really loves is getting played
with. When we reach out to pet his back he squats down as low as he
can to avoid touching us and runs away.

As he got older he began to pee on our papa-san, which is round
couch/chair that we hang out on in the office. At first we thought he
might be confused since his litter box is round... not the case. We
eventually got so fed up of lifting that heavy cushion and cleaning it
every few days that we took it out of the office (where his litter box
is located). At this point he was in kitty "time-out". We locked
him in the guest bathroom for a day with his litter box and food/h20...
hoping he would get the point not to pee. Unfortunately, he didn't
take his punishment too well. Instead of peeing on the papa-san... he
went pee on the foot of our bed... while we were sleeping in it!!!

Once again... he went to kitty "time out". Our mattress in
brand-new and costs a ton of money... it's a tempurpedic bed and
doesn't allow for easy cleaning either. My husband lost it when the
cat went pee on the bed. He wanted to give it away because he was so
sick of cleaning cat pee all the time. I suggested that we try and
work things out with him by getting another cat to occupy him time
with. We did so, and he seemed to be enjoying the new friend. Since
getting him a friend, we got him neutered, at 5 months of age.

Things were going great... until recently. We have been catching him
going pee in the sinks (which was happening before the new cat)... and
two days ago he went poop in the corner of the bathroom. Once again...
he was sent to kitty "time out" overnight. He was well behaved
yesterday when he got out of "time out"... but my husband and I
thought it would be a good idea if he slept outside of our room last
night... in fear of what he might do when we are sleeping. Sure enough
this morning when I let him in the room... he went pee on the foot of
the bed. To be honest, I've had just about enough of the games this
cat is playing with us. My husband wants him gone. I just don't
want to let him go without knowing that this problem is irreversible.
PLEASE HELP!!!

P.S. This morning when I caught him peeing on the bed I picked him up
and took him to "time out" ... AGAIN... when doing so I didn't
realize that he was still peeing!!! The pee went all over my feet,
legs, and body... more importantly... my nice couches... and all over
about twenty feet of carpet!!! ... Not to mention all over the guest
bathroom! What should I do to clean this mess? I cleaned the bathroom
with pine-sol and Nature's Miracle. I sprayed Nature's Miracle all
over the couches and on the floors. However, the other cat can still
smell the pee. She gets that weird face cats make when they smell pee
and stuff. What can I do to help this??? I'm at this cat's
mercy!!! PLEASE HELP!!!

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Old July 14th 05, 03:38 AM
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Oh! One last thing... This behavioral issue is not due to a UTI!

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Old July 14th 05, 03:59 AM
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"PawsForThought" wrote

Please take your cat to a vet right away to rule out a physical cause,
if you have not already done so. This cat isn't declawed by any
chance, is he?


Yes please! Take him to a vet. Innappropriate urination is an indication
of a urinary tract infection, among other things.

-Kelly


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Old July 14th 05, 05:40 AM
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Thank you for the posts... kellyh & paws for thought. =) I didn't
indicate so in my first message... but I posted one immediately after
saying that a UTI or any other physical cause is not a factor. He has
been to the vet several times and he said that he was perfectly
healthy.

There is something seriously wrong with him. He doesn't seem to like
"time out" ... and to me it sounds like a reasonable punishment. ???
He seems to "lash out" at us after he gets in trouble. I'm very
concerned about his behavioral problems. They are becoming very costly
and time consuming. I completely understand the fact that cats are
like kids, but come on... this cat is like dealing with an emotionally
charged teenage girl!!! The cat also likes to destroy toilet paper,
paper towels, and anything in the trashcan.... Not to mention any kind
of wire or paper lying around the house... oh... don't let me forget
about all the plants he destroys and the clothing he chews up... I
don't know what to do... My husband wants to give him away?!?!?

He is a Bengal cat... if that helps any of you experts. Oh...
PAWSFORTHOUGHT... he is declawed... and come to mention it... most of
the major problems have taken place since then. Why do you ask? You
seem concerned... I am now too. The vet recommended it for his breed
and personality. I always trust professionals... Should I not? He
said there were no drawbacks and/or side effects. ???

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Old July 14th 05, 06:47 AM
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The weird thing is that he does USE the litter box. He just seems to
get moody for one reason or another sometimes. I feel like he is
attacking my personal space on purpose. He knows what he is doing is
bad because he runs away afterwards. ??? It just seems like he is
trying to get my attention... ???

Yes. A vet recommended it. When I brought him in as a kitten he said
"Oh. A Bengal?" ... "Have you thought of having him declawed?" ...
"Because most people can't handle that breed of cat... and those who do
usually get them declawed to save their furniture and their skin." I
asked about the side effects, like I would ask for myself... and he
said there were no side effects. In fact, he said that his two cats
were declawed... and members of his staff who were cat owners had their
cats declawed as well. I swear... or else I would have never done it.
I feel horrible.

I'm going to make an appointment at another vet to check out the
kitty paws. I really hope he was not "butchered" or something. I
feel so bad. I hope he is not in pain. Thank you for bringing this to
my attention.

What are the side effects of a bad declaw? ... Or a declaw in general?

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Old July 14th 05, 07:00 AM
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Help for pee problems:

Increase the number of litter boxes you have - and have them in
discreet places that are easily accessed by the cat.

Also, you need to offer a variety of litters (clay, clumping, pine,
corn)....there is one called ATTRACT LITTER that is supposed to be for
cats with litter issues. And try various scents. feline pine has a new
clumping litter - I like it! Cat ATTRACT is available at Petsmart and
so is the new feline pine clumping.

You need a variety of cat litter box styles (covered, shallow, deep)
and put a thinner layer of litter - some believe that cats do not like
going in litter if it is too deep.....we humans like it deep because
this means less changing....I use large sterilite plastic bins that I
buy at Walmart because I have a cat that misses the box and also sprays
her urine - the high sides of the Sterilite box prevent a mess!

Also, if cat insists on going in one certain spot (in a corner of
bathroom for instance) put a litter box there - at least do this now
until this situation is figured out. Also use that sticky drawer liner
stuff to anchor the litter box on the bottom so cat cannot turn it
over! Maybe kitty is getting skittish about litter box because perhaps
he almost turned the box over once and it freaked him out.

If cat goes in a sink etc repeatedly - put a puppy pad there so it will
absorb!Less Mess. You can buy the puppy pads at petmsart.

Also, buy a plastic/water-proof matress cover to save your mattress!

In addition to checking for UTI - have urinalysis done for possible
crystals in urinary track or blood work up for diabetes or other
diseases with frequent urination issues. Could check bowel stuff too
to make sure that this is not a constipation issue and kitty is trying
to tell you he is in pain?

Even though kitty may not have infection - something is not right.

Lastly, instead of time-out, you may have to limit the space your cat
has in the house - limit access to spray-prone areas (more door
shutting for you) until this is resolved. Try not to get mad at kitty
- he most likely cannot help this.

GOod luck, Jen




wrote:
My cat is bonkers!!! All my husband and I have ever done was try to
love him and give him tons of attention. I don't work, so I am at
home and play with him all day. His litter box is always clean... he
always has fresh food and water... and we give him kitty snacks all the
time. He is so spoiled! We treat him better than we treat people!

When we got him as a kitten he was very scared of people... and
anything that moved or made noise. We had to keep him in master
bathroom... and then gradually move him into our bedroom... and then
into the living room... and so on. We did this to make him feel more
comfortable with his new surroundings. This process took much longer
than it does for most cats. He spent a week and a half in the bathroom
before he felt comfortable enough to go into our bedroom! He is
horrified of being picked up and doesn't like being touched much.
The only kind of human interaction he really loves is getting played
with. When we reach out to pet his back he squats down as low as he
can to avoid touching us and runs away.

As he got older he began to pee on our papa-san, which is round
couch/chair that we hang out on in the office. At first we thought he
might be confused since his litter box is round... not the case. We
eventually got so fed up of lifting that heavy cushion and cleaning it
every few days that we took it out of the office (where his litter box
is located). At this point he was in kitty "time-out". We locked
him in the guest bathroom for a day with his litter box and food/h20...
hoping he would get the point not to pee. Unfortunately, he didn't
take his punishment too well. Instead of peeing on the papa-san... he
went pee on the foot of our bed... while we were sleeping in it!!!

Once again... he went to kitty "time out". Our mattress in
brand-new and costs a ton of money... it's a tempurpedic bed and
doesn't allow for easy cleaning either. My husband lost it when the
cat went pee on the bed. He wanted to give it away because he was so
sick of cleaning cat pee all the time. I suggested that we try and
work things out with him by getting another cat to occupy him time
with. We did so, and he seemed to be enjoying the new friend. Since
getting him a friend, we got him neutered, at 5 months of age.

Things were going great... until recently. We have been catching him
going pee in the sinks (which was happening before the new cat)... and
two days ago he went poop in the corner of the bathroom. Once again...
he was sent to kitty "time out" overnight. He was well behaved
yesterday when he got out of "time out"... but my husband and I
thought it would be a good idea if he slept outside of our room last
night... in fear of what he might do when we are sleeping. Sure enough
this morning when I let him in the room... he went pee on the foot of
the bed. To be honest, I've had just about enough of the games this
cat is playing with us. My husband wants him gone. I just don't
want to let him go without knowing that this problem is irreversible.
PLEASE HELP!!!

P.S. This morning when I caught him peeing on the bed I picked him up
and took him to "time out" ... AGAIN... when doing so I didn't
realize that he was still peeing!!! The pee went all over my feet,
legs, and body... more importantly... my nice couches... and all over
about twenty feet of carpet!!! ... Not to mention all over the guest
bathroom! What should I do to clean this mess? I cleaned the bathroom
with pine-sol and Nature's Miracle. I sprayed Nature's Miracle all
over the couches and on the floors. However, the other cat can still
smell the pee. She gets that weird face cats make when they smell pee
and stuff. What can I do to help this??? I'm at this cat's
mercy!!! PLEASE HELP!!!


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Old July 14th 05, 07:05 AM
Kitkat
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wrote:
The weird thing is that he does USE the litter box. He just seems to
get moody for one reason or another sometimes. I feel like he is
attacking my personal space on purpose. He knows what he is doing is
bad because he runs away afterwards. ??? It just seems like he is
trying to get my attention... ???


I know it can seem like that but I doubt it's the case. He is doing it
because something is making him unhappy. That is my guess. I know others
will chime in.

Yes. A vet recommended it. When I brought him in as a kitten he said
"Oh. A Bengal?" ... "Have you thought of having him declawed?" ...
"Because most people can't handle that breed of cat... and those who do
usually get them declawed to save their furniture and their skin." I
asked about the side effects, like I would ask for myself... and he
said there were no side effects. In fact, he said that his two cats
were declawed... and members of his staff who were cat owners had their
cats declawed as well. I swear... or else I would have never done it.
I feel horrible.


I think you learned something important here. You really *cant* trust
the "professionals"...at least not blindly. Nowadays, with the
availability of the 'net, it is SO easy to research things in advance!!

I'm going to make an appointment at another vet to check out the
kitty paws. I really hope he was not "butchered" or something. I
feel so bad. I hope he is not in pain. Thank you for bringing this to
my attention.

What are the side effects of a bad declaw? ... Or a declaw in general?


Declawing can cause lots of behavior problems. Some declawed cats become
biters. Many have litter box problems. It can cause pain in their paws
and legs...arthritic pain later in life.

By the way, don't believe me just because I say so. I learned most of
that from being on this newsgroup. There are some sites you can check
out like stopdeclaw.com. They are intended to educate people about
declawing since so many people in the US are ignorant. It is somewhat
accepted here, yet illegal and considered inhumane in many countries
world-wide.

In terms of correcting the behavior...you might consider trying some
different types of litter...or even just some shredded newspaper.
Perhaps the type of litter you currently use is irritating his possibly
sore paws. Also, do you have more than one litter box available?
Sometimes they like to pee in one and poop in the other.

Good luck,
Pam

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Old July 14th 05, 07:07 AM
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oups.com...
Thank you for the posts... kellyh & paws for thought. =) I didn't
indicate so in my first message... but I posted one immediately after
saying that a UTI or any other physical cause is not a factor. He has
been to the vet several times and he said that he was perfectly
healthy.

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He is a Bengal cat... if that helps any of you experts. Oh...
PAWSFORTHOUGHT... he is declawed... and come to mention it... most of
the major problems have taken place since then. Why do you ask? You
seem concerned... I am now too. The vet recommended it for his breed
and personality. I always trust professionals... Should I not? He
said there were no drawbacks and/or side effects. ???


This is tragic! Declawing involves amputation, and it often leads to
physical and behavioral problems. Inappropriate urination is one of the
most common problems associated with declawing. This doesn't mean that all
declawed cats will develop the problem, but it is much more common for
declawed cats and for others. Unfortunately, that damage can't be undone.
However, you may be able to do a few things to help alleviate some of the
problems. I adopted a cat some years ago that had previously been declawed
(all four paws!!!). In her case, she started to urinate outside the litter
box when she was older, and I always believed that it was associated with
pain in trying to use litter (arthritis is one of the physical problems that
is often associated with declawing). I looked for the very softest clumping
litter I could find and finally settled on one called Better Way. It can be
hard to find, but it helped a great deal. There is also a litter known as
Cat Attract. I have never used it, but it is a scoopable litter blended
with an herb extract that is supposed to be an attractant to cats. That
might be worth trying.

Assuming that this may be at least partly behavioral and not completely
related to pain or other physical problems, I also suggest that you get some
Feliway. I prefer the plug-in diffusers instead of the spray because the
diffusers/dispensers release premeasured amounts at regular intervals.
Feliway is used for behavior modification and can be very useful in reducing
stress. As a last resort, you may need to consider medication such as
Prozac. Tufts Veterinary Hospital has an online service to help people deal
with behavioral problems in their cats, and they might be able to help if
you subscribe to their service.

Oh, yes, please search for another vet. It is *outrageous* to hear that a
vet would actually "recommend" declawing for a particular "breed and
personality."

MaryL

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