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My kitten is very sick!!
Karen wrote:
I still smell troll I have a kitten, about 4 1/2 weeks old, and it has had many problems for the last couple of weeks. When it was born it was a [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] Damn People can be so F@cked up. Sometimes wished the law could actually do upon the criminal what they did upon victims I am SOOO glad that you actually READ my concern about the kitten. I asked for advise, not some lame excuse to call a 14 year old a troll, especially since your probably a grown person. That just isn't right. Now i thought this web site was for helping kittens, not bringing down other peoples questions and insulting them. -- Message posted via CatKB.com http://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx...dotes/200605/1 |
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My kitten is very sick!!
mlbriggs wrote:
When I first read this is thought "troll". No one could be so insensitive as to leave a four week old kitten outside to more or less fend for itself. Suggestion Either get on your computer or go to the library and read up on cat care. If you are a child, please remember to read and learn as much as you can about baby animals before you try to raise any. MLB Considering the trolls that have been hanging out in here lately, I'd have to agree with you. If this wasn't a troll, then I'd have to try to find out where this person and his/her family live and call the SPCA on them. If you can breed d-things and get them medical care, you should be able to do the same for any cats around. Pam S. |
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My kitten is very sick!!
Candace wrote:
When I first read this is thought "troll". No one could be so insensitive as to leave a four week old kitten outside to more or less fend for itself. Suggestion Either get on your computer or go to the library and read up on cat care. If you are a child, please remember to read and learn as much as you can about baby animals before you try to raise any. MLB Well, thank God...a voice of reason here. I can't believe everyone was just giving their sympathies and not aknowledging the awfulness of this whole situation. Of course, it's unspeakably sad the baby kitty died but "it got left outside in the rain," dried off with a hair dryer, then it happened again last night, we breed dogs, we have umpteen cats but can't afford to take them to the vet, and on and on. Just the sort of people who should not have cats or dogs. I know rpca is supposed to be all sweet and wonderful all the time but I can't believe some of you just condone this sort of pet ownership. I know criticizing the girl will not bring the poor baby back but those cats should be spayed and neutered and not just running around breeding amidst a bunch of dogs who are also breeding and then getting left out in the rain when they know it is very sick. These people are responsible for the death of that kitten. Maybe the girl can't change things at her house but she should still know that what happened is just plain wrong and heinous. It is not responsible pet ownership! The kitten is who deserves the pity and the remaining ones in their "care." Cripe!!!!!!!!!! Candace Well, ok. I don't know if that was a good thing towards me or a bad, but like i said before, we don't exactly have tha money to brind them ALL to the vet because the kittens all around will still continue to show up and leave us. The thing is, we live out in the country and get these kittens all the time. -- Message posted via CatKB.com http://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx...dotes/200605/1 |
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My kitten is very sick!!
"Alyssa8 via CatKB.com" u22242@uwe wrote in message news:60cf763982f0e@uwe... Karen wrote: I still smell troll I have a kitten, about 4 1/2 weeks old, and it has had many problems for the last couple of weeks. When it was born it was a [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] Damn People can be so F@cked up. Sometimes wished the law could actually do upon the criminal what they did upon victims I am SOOO glad that you actually READ my concern about the kitten. I asked for advise, not some lame excuse to call a 14 year old a troll, especially since your probably a grown person. That just isn't right. Now i thought this web site was for helping kittens, not bringing down other peoples questions and insulting them. You have said that this four week old kitten has been very ill for weeks, but was being left outside to protect your dogs and did not have access to medical care. In all fairness, how on earth do you (or did you) expect a bunch of people you do not know and who do not know you to help in a situation like this? It was already too late. Sorry but in the real world concern just plain isn't enough. Your concern for the kitten could not and did not save it. We could not help to save it. Keeping it indoors and providing it with shelter and food likely would have helped it. You weren't even managing to do that. Its called real solutions for real problems. Jo |
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My kitten is very sick!!
Below, Alyssa8 says that she is 14 years old. So, she is very young
and I think we should give her the benefit of the doubt here. She should get credit for noticing and caring, even when she does not have the personal finances (what 14 year old *does*) to do something about it herself. It's been a horrible week for nasty posts and being reactive (I have also contributed, in another forum), but please don't let it become a habit. I would imagine that she feels very sad at the death of the kitten and helpless to do anything about it. Maybe folks in the USA can give her some pointers as to where she can go for help. On the other hand, if she's not in the USA, maybe she can give us a vague idea of where she is (geographically) and others of us can give her pointers. Cheers (and I mean it!), Tish On Fri, 26 May 2006 04:56:32 GMT, "Jo Firey" wrote: "Alyssa8 via CatKB.com" u22242@uwe wrote in message news:60cf763982f0e@uwe... Karen wrote: I still smell troll I have a kitten, about 4 1/2 weeks old, and it has had many problems for the last couple of weeks. When it was born it was a [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] Damn People can be so F@cked up. Sometimes wished the law could actually do upon the criminal what they did upon victims I am SOOO glad that you actually READ my concern about the kitten. I asked for advise, not some lame excuse to call a 14 year old a troll, especially since your probably a grown person. That just isn't right. Now i thought this web site was for helping kittens, not bringing down other peoples questions and insulting them. You have said that this four week old kitten has been very ill for weeks, but was being left outside to protect your dogs and did not have access to medical care. In all fairness, how on earth do you (or did you) expect a bunch of people you do not know and who do not know you to help in a situation like this? It was already too late. Sorry but in the real world concern just plain isn't enough. Your concern for the kitten could not and did not save it. We could not help to save it. Keeping it indoors and providing it with shelter and food likely would have helped it. You weren't even managing to do that. Its called real solutions for real problems. Jo |
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My kitten is very sick!!
Tanada wrote:
When I first read this is thought "troll". No one could be so insensitive as to leave a four week old kitten outside to more or less fend for itself. Suggestion Either get on your computer or go to the library and read up on cat care. If you are a child, please remember to read and learn as much as you can about baby animals before you try to raise any. MLB Considering the trolls that have been hanging out in here lately, I'd have to agree with you. If this wasn't a troll, then I'd have to try to find out where this person and his/her family live and call the SPCA on them. If you can breed d-things and get them medical care, you should be able to do the same for any cats around. If you haven't been reading the rest of the conversations, then you have no idea what i have told the rest of the idiots calling me a troll!! WE CAN'T HELP IT WHEN THE CATS BREED! If you have the money to spayed and nuder about 10 cats or more, then be my guest and pay for them!! My family isn't the richest and we live in a small town. I highly doubt that you even know how uncontrollable it is to keep the cats seperate out IN THE COUNTRY. In otherwards, your probably from a city. I live in Nebraska for God sakes, if that tells you anything. Where we live, our house is by a lake basically in the middle of nowhere with a road full of houses where many of the OTHER cats come from. They wonder without a owner, so we take in the ones that tend to stay around and we feed them. No one out here can obviously control the cats and nature will work its course when to many cats keep arising. At least i had the heart to bring this kitten in and give it a warm place to stay, even though the mother was ours to begin with. From the beginning it was obviously sick and had a 90% chance of catching leukemia. It was also valerable to any disease when it was this young. I am sorry that you feel this way, but there was NOTHING we could do about it. You need to read what you are saying and what i have said to all the other ppl. I can't help the way you feel about this, but i am sorry that i was even concerned about the poor thing. -- Message posted via http://www.catkb.com |
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My kitten is very sick!!
Jo Firey wrote:
I still smell troll [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] this web site was for helping kittens, not bringing down other peoples questions and insulting them. You have said that this four week old kitten has been very ill for weeks, but was being left outside to protect your dogs and did not have access to medical care. In all fairness, how on earth do you (or did you) expect a bunch of people you do not know and who do not know you to help in a situation like this? It was already too late. Sorry but in the real world concern just plain isn't enough. Your concern for the kitten could not and did not save it. We could not help to save it. Keeping it indoors and providing it with shelter and food likely would have helped it. You weren't even managing to do that. Its called real solutions for real problems. Jo OK, NOW PAY ATTENTION. This kitten had been BROUGHT inside AWAY from the dogs for the past two weeks when it showed obvious signs of being sick enough to care for. The kitten most likely had a wild, outside cat for a dad that no one knows who it is, so who knows what diseases the father passed down also. Having farel cat in its blood, it NEEDED to be outside once in a while or it would freak out. Now when your in my situation-where i live and with all the other cats around- there was really no help for it because it was to small for antibiotics to fight it off and the diseases that it most likely had where not treatable anyway. I was concerned about it aand was hoping for some advise to see if this has happened to anyone elses kitten, but instead i got called a troll and instead of even answering my message, almost everyone is too busy to even read it, instead they are insulting me about it when there was NOTHING to do about it. I am really sry you feel this way, but i can't help it if all of you are the idiots that are immature for your age and can't help anyone. What a sh*tty website, the message i wrote wasn't even answered. I'm sick of it. -- Message posted via CatKB.com http://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx...dotes/200605/1 |
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My kitten is very sick!!
Alyssa8 via CatKB.com wrote:
If you haven't been reading the rest of the conversations, then you have no idea what i have told the rest of the idiots calling me a troll!! WE CAN'T HELP IT WHEN THE CATS BREED! If you have the money to spayed and nuder about 10 cats or more, then be my guest and pay for them!! My family isn't the richest and we live in a small town. I highly doubt that you even know how uncontrollable it is to keep the cats seperate out IN THE COUNTRY. In otherwards, your probably from a city. I live in Nebraska for God sakes, if that tells you anything. Where we live, our house is by a lake basically in the middle of nowhere with a road full of houses where many of the OTHER cats come from. They wonder without a owner, so we take in the ones that tend to stay around and we feed them. No one out here can obviously control the cats and nature will work its course when to many cats keep arising. At least i had the heart to bring this kitten in and give it a warm place to stay, even though the mother was ours to begin with. From the beginning it was obviously sick and had a 90% chance of catching leukemia. It was also valerable to any disease when it was this young. I am sorry that you feel this way, but there was NOTHING we could do about it. You need to read what you are saying and what i have said to all the other ppl. I can't help the way you feel about this, but i am sorry that i was even concerned about the poor thing. I was raised on a farm in Eastern Washington state. I understand about people dumping cats, though in this day and age, there are more resources than there were back in the 60s when I was a kid. If you actually wanted medical advice, why didn't you go to rec.pets.cats.healthandbehavior for assistance. That's supposed to be the place for medical advice. The advice we give here is non-professional and done as a favor to those who post here. This group was actually set up to talk about our cats, and health and behavior do come into it. Even Nebraska has programs to help spay or neuter cats. If you ask, I'm sure someone in here would give you the web sites for those programs. I'm sorry that the kitten died. I've dealt with Feline Leukemia, one of my favorite cats died from it. She had it when she showed up on our front porch after someone dumped her. We have seven cats, all indoor with outdoor access through an enclosure, but we've also had indoor/outdoor cats before we learned how hard the mean streets can be on cats. I understand how hard it is to be 14 anyway, especially if you have parents who's idea of listening to your concerns is to either hit you or tell you to never mind it will be ok. It's a very desperate thing, and you have my sympathy if that is what you are going through. If that is a problem at your house, you have my sympathy. I've had little kittens die on me. It is a heart break and I remember them to this day. Please learn from this experience and do what you can to convince your parent(s) to get the cats you have fixed. They'll be happier, you won't have as many diseases in your area, and you won't have to go through a nightmare like this. BTW, may I compliment you on the maturity of your post. I've never known a 14 year old that uses the terms "Nature will work it's course" and "vulnerable to any disease" before. Also, don't you have a bed time? It is almost 2 am here, and therefore, 12 midnight where you're at. And I know that you posted this around 11:30 CDT. Not only that, but don't you have school in the morning? Pam S. a substitute teacher for a living |
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My kitten is very sick!!
Tish Silberbauer wrote:
Below, Alyssa8 says that she is 14 years old. So, she is very young and I think we should give her the benefit of the doubt here. She should get credit for noticing and caring, even when she does not have the personal finances (what 14 year old *does*) to do something about it herself. It's been a horrible week for nasty posts and being reactive (I have also contributed, in another forum), but please don't let it become a habit. I would imagine that she feels very sad at the death of the kitten and helpless to do anything about it. Maybe folks in the USA can give her some pointers as to where she can go for help. On the other hand, if she's not in the USA, maybe she can give us a vague idea of where she is (geographically) and others of us can give her pointers. Cheers (and I mean it!), Tish Finely another person who has been nice throughout this all. I am sry for all the ripping out, but i have had a rough week, not only with my kitten passing away, but also with a very close friend(my moms boss) passing away and my mom catching ammonia. Right now i am VERY stressed out and haven't slept for three days and have hardly ate anything. Right now the whole name calling thing is getting out of control and i am very sick of it. I give up, this whole thing is stupid and almost everyone in this whole deal has barely even mentioned any advise about the kitten from the beginning. Now that its to late, everyonehas just focused on name calling. Just end it, its getting old fast and i dont need to stress out about this anymore. See if i use one of these advise things again, the people can be disrespectful. I just wanted to thank the people who where ACTUALLY nice enough to give me advise and information. I did greatly appriciate it, even if it was to late i can take it into later consideration in the case of another mishab. And thank you for some of your concerns and lighting the candle for the kitten, it was very thoughful. And as for the people who caused troubles along this, i am not impressed what so ever on your behavior like a two-year-old. No one ever got a badge for their stupidity or their heartlessness and i hope you decide to change your ways, otherwise you are going to bring more people down and cause them the troubles of having to put up with you. GOD BLESS TO YOU ALL, alyssa I still smell troll [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] Jo -- Message posted via CatKB.com http://www.catkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx...dotes/200605/1 |
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My kitten is very sick!!
Alyssa8 via CatKB.com wrote:
Having farel cat in its blood, it NEEDED to be outside once in a while or it would freak out. Alyssa, we have brought in several feral cats, even older than your kitten. I just want you to know that they do not freak out because they are not outside. Whoever told you that was mistaken. The cats are domestic and have domestic blood in them. They happen to be born outside and learn to fear humans if they don't have human contact. That's the challenge -- getting them to trust humans again. The being inside part is a piece of cake. Next time, bring a kitten in and leave it in, you'll be surprised. Check and see if there are low-cost spay/neuter clinics near you. You can call the Humane Society or a shelter, they will usually know. Make a plan on how much it will cost to take care of your cats. Convince your parents that it will be less expensive in the long run without so many cats to feed, if your cats stop having kittens. The way it is now, you'll be over-run with unhealthy cats. I grew up in farm country and I know there's a different attitude about farm animals and barn cats. This will be a challenge for you. You're getting old enough to start working on this yourself. If your parents don't agree to the spay/neuter because of cost, how about you and your friends getting together for a bake sale? Maybe have a car wash and put up signs that it's to help the cats? People will help when they know there's a need. I know you want to avoid more kitten deaths like you saw this week. Good luck, Rhonda |
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