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Someone Lost a Bird
"jmcquown" wrote in message ... On 10/20/2015 1:47 PM, Christina Websell wrote: Ok, wing-clipping is not permanent, I have to agree. But why are these wonderful birds disabled by this so they can be pets? and just walk around? Birds need to fly. IMHO. You don't clip all their feathers. Just the flight feathers on one wing. They can still fly, just not very far. Yes, I know this. But Macaws are used to living in Central America in the rainforests. IMO they should remain there. How do think they like living in a cage? No wonder they often pluck all their feathers out. |
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On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 20:04:56 +0100, "Christina Websell"
wrote: "jmcquown" wrote in message ... On 10/20/2015 1:47 PM, Christina Websell wrote: Ok, wing-clipping is not permanent, I have to agree. But why are these wonderful birds disabled by this so they can be pets? and just walk around? Birds need to fly. IMHO. You don't clip all their feathers. Just the flight feathers on one wing. They can still fly, just not very far. Yes, I know this. But Macaws are used to living in Central America in the rainforests. IMO they should remain there. How do think they like living in a cage? No wonder they often pluck all their feathers out. That's sort of how I feel about taking Baby off the street and moving her to an indoor life 1200 miles away. Was it in her best interest? I thought so but maybe she would have been happier as she was. |
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On 10/23/2015 3:43 PM, dgk wrote:
On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 20:04:56 +0100, "Christina Websell" wrote: "jmcquown" wrote in message ... On 10/20/2015 1:47 PM, Christina Websell wrote: Ok, wing-clipping is not permanent, I have to agree. But why are these wonderful birds disabled by this so they can be pets? and just walk around? Birds need to fly. IMHO. You don't clip all their feathers. Just the flight feathers on one wing. They can still fly, just not very far. Yes, I know this. But Macaws are used to living in Central America in the rainforests. IMO they should remain there. How do think they like living in a cage? No wonder they often pluck all their feathers out. That's sort of how I feel about taking Baby off the street and moving her to an indoor life 1200 miles away. Was it in her best interest? I thought so but maybe she would have been happier as she was. I think you made the right decision. Feral cats that do not have anyone to provide food on a regular basis often face disease and a dreadful death. If you are ever able to build a cat-proof fence, that may give her the best of both worlds. MaryL |
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On 10/22/2015 3:04 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message ... On 10/20/2015 1:47 PM, Christina Websell wrote: Ok, wing-clipping is not permanent, I have to agree. But why are these wonderful birds disabled by this so they can be pets? and just walk around? Birds need to fly. IMHO. You don't clip all their feathers. Just the flight feathers on one wing. They can still fly, just not very far. Yes, I know this. But Macaws are used to living in Central America in the rainforests. IMO they should remain there. How do think they like living in a cage? No wonder they often pluck all their feathers out. I understand what you're saying. I'm not the one who imported these birds. Importing tropical birds as pets started a couple of centuries before I was born. I'm just glad the bird found its way back to where she knows she has food and care. Jill |
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"dgk" wrote in message ... On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 20:04:56 +0100, "Christina Websell" wrote: "jmcquown" wrote in message ... On 10/20/2015 1:47 PM, Christina Websell wrote: Ok, wing-clipping is not permanent, I have to agree. But why are these wonderful birds disabled by this so they can be pets? and just walk around? Birds need to fly. IMHO. You don't clip all their feathers. Just the flight feathers on one wing. They can still fly, just not very far. Yes, I know this. But Macaws are used to living in Central America in the rainforests. IMO they should remain there. How do think they like living in a cage? No wonder they often pluck all their feathers out. That's sort of how I feel about taking Baby off the street and moving her to an indoor life 1200 miles away. Was it in her best interest? I thought so but maybe she would have been happier as she was. that's a whole different thing. I wouldn't worry about taking a cat off the street in America and taking her with me to an indoor life. like you did for Baby. Consider the future she would have had if you hadn't. |
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"jmcquown" wrote in message ... On 10/22/2015 3:04 PM, Christina Websell wrote: "jmcquown" wrote in message ... On 10/20/2015 1:47 PM, Christina Websell wrote: Ok, wing-clipping is not permanent, I have to agree. But why are these wonderful birds disabled by this so they can be pets? and just walk around? Birds need to fly. IMHO. You don't clip all their feathers. Just the flight feathers on one wing. They can still fly, just not very far. Yes, I know this. But Macaws are used to living in Central America in the rainforests. IMO they should remain there. How do think they like living in a cage? No wonder they often pluck all their feathers out. I understand what you're saying. I'm not the one who imported these birds. Importing tropical birds as pets started a couple of centuries before I was born. I'm just glad the bird found its way back to where she knows she has food and care. Jill I'm not blaming you! I'm just saying that unless anyone can guarantee outliving a parrot make sure he/she is provided for after your death. they can live for 70 years. so unless you get it when you when you are a child you have to make provisions for it. |
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"jmcquown" wrote in message ... On 10/22/2015 3:04 PM, Christina Websell wrote: "jmcquown" wrote in message ... On 10/20/2015 1:47 PM, Christina Websell wrote: Ok, wing-clipping is not permanent, I have to agree. But why are these wonderful birds disabled by this so they can be pets? and just walk around? Birds need to fly. IMHO. You don't clip all their feathers. Just the flight feathers on one wing. They can still fly, just not very far. Yes, I know this. But Macaws are used to living in Central America in the rainforests. IMO they should remain there. How do think they like living in a cage? No wonder they often pluck all their feathers out. I understand what you're saying. I'm not the one who imported these birds. Importing tropical birds as pets started a couple of centuries before I was born. I'm just glad the bird found its way back to where she knows she has food and care. Jill I'm not blaming you. I used to think it was OK to have a parrot as a pet but now I am not so sure that it is. They belong in the rainforest, not in a cage. Imagine that parrots idea of an ideal life is flying around in South America (or Australia) freely and then are a caged bird. No wonder theyhave difficulties sitting in a cage. |
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Christina Websell wrote:
"jmcquown" wrote in message ... On 10/22/2015 3:04 PM, Christina Websell wrote: "jmcquown" wrote in message ... On 10/20/2015 1:47 PM, Christina Websell wrote: Ok, wing-clipping is not permanent, I have to agree. But why are these wonderful birds disabled by this so they can be pets? and just walk around? Birds need to fly. IMHO. You don't clip all their feathers. Just the flight feathers on one wing. They can still fly, just not very far. Yes, I know this. But Macaws are used to living in Central America in the rainforests. IMO they should remain there. How do think they like living in a cage? No wonder they often pluck all their feathers out. I understand what you're saying. I'm not the one who imported these birds. Importing tropical birds as pets started a couple of centuries before I was born. I'm just glad the bird found its way back to where she knows she has food and care. Jill I'm not blaming you. I used to think it was OK to have a parrot as a pet but now I am not so sure that it is. They belong in the rainforest, not in a cage. Imagine that parrots idea of an ideal life is flying around in South America (or Australia) freely and then are a caged bird. No wonder theyhave difficulties sitting in a cage. I feel that way about all pet birds, tbh. They all need to fly. (Well, OK, not a pet peacock, but you know what I mean.) I'd love to have a pet bird, but it is really cruel to keep them caged, or even to keep them stuck in the house, unable to fly as they're adapted to. -- Joyce I prefer to live with Feline Sapiens, thank you very much. |
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 20:43:35 -0000 (UTC), Bastette
wrote: Christina Websell wrote: "jmcquown" wrote in message ... On 10/22/2015 3:04 PM, Christina Websell wrote: "jmcquown" wrote in message ... On 10/20/2015 1:47 PM, Christina Websell wrote: Ok, wing-clipping is not permanent, I have to agree. But why are these wonderful birds disabled by this so they can be pets? and just walk around? Birds need to fly. IMHO. You don't clip all their feathers. Just the flight feathers on one wing. They can still fly, just not very far. Yes, I know this. But Macaws are used to living in Central America in the rainforests. IMO they should remain there. How do think they like living in a cage? No wonder they often pluck all their feathers out. I understand what you're saying. I'm not the one who imported these birds. Importing tropical birds as pets started a couple of centuries before I was born. I'm just glad the bird found its way back to where she knows she has food and care. Jill I'm not blaming you. I used to think it was OK to have a parrot as a pet but now I am not so sure that it is. They belong in the rainforest, not in a cage. Imagine that parrots idea of an ideal life is flying around in South America (or Australia) freely and then are a caged bird. No wonder theyhave difficulties sitting in a cage. I feel that way about all pet birds, tbh. They all need to fly. (Well, OK, not a pet peacock, but you know what I mean.) I'd love to have a pet bird, but it is really cruel to keep them caged, or even to keep them stuck in the house, unable to fly as they're adapted to. Somewhere between Flushing and Bayside, in Queens NYC, is a parrot nest built on a big transformer on top of a power line pole. I noticed it one year when I was biking past, and it was still there this year so somehow they survived a very cold winter. Small green parrots, but parrots none the less. |
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On 11/2/2015 9:39 PM, dgk wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 20:43:35 -0000 (UTC), Bastette wrote: Christina Websell wrote: "jmcquown" wrote in message ... On 10/22/2015 3:04 PM, Christina Websell wrote: "jmcquown" wrote in message ... On 10/20/2015 1:47 PM, Christina Websell wrote: Ok, wing-clipping is not permanent, I have to agree. But why are these wonderful birds disabled by this so they can be pets? and just walk around? Birds need to fly. IMHO. You don't clip all their feathers. Just the flight feathers on one wing. They can still fly, just not very far. Yes, I know this. But Macaws are used to living in Central America in the rainforests. IMO they should remain there. How do think they like living in a cage? No wonder they often pluck all their feathers out. I understand what you're saying. I'm not the one who imported these birds. Importing tropical birds as pets started a couple of centuries before I was born. I'm just glad the bird found its way back to where she knows she has food and care. Jill I'm not blaming you. I used to think it was OK to have a parrot as a pet but now I am not so sure that it is. They belong in the rainforest, not in a cage. Imagine that parrots idea of an ideal life is flying around in South America (or Australia) freely and then are a caged bird. No wonder theyhave difficulties sitting in a cage. I feel that way about all pet birds, tbh. They all need to fly. (Well, OK, not a pet peacock, but you know what I mean.) I'd love to have a pet bird, but it is really cruel to keep them caged, or even to keep them stuck in the house, unable to fly as they're adapted to. Somewhere between Flushing and Bayside, in Queens NYC, is a parrot nest built on a big transformer on top of a power line pole. I noticed it one year when I was biking past, and it was still there this year so somehow they survived a very cold winter. Small green parrots, but parrots none the less. Those are probably quaker parrots (monk parakeets). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monk_parakeet MaryL |
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