Mine cave in in Utah

If anyone has some spare purrs, more are needed for the miners in Utah.
There has been another cave in at the Huntington mine and apparently
several of the rescuers were injured. There is also a rumor of one death.

"mlbriggs" wrote in message
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If anyone has some spare purrs, more are needed for the miners in Utah.
There has been another cave in at the Huntington mine and apparently
several of the rescuers were injured. There is also a rumor of one death.

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I saw the news report they reported 3 deaths 7 injuries
http://www.local6.com/news/13912408/...09240208162007

Matthew wrote:
"mlbriggs" wrote in message
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If anyone has some spare purrs, more are needed for the miners in
Utah. There has been another cave in at the Huntington mine and
apparently several of the rescuers were injured. There is also a
rumor of one death.

Purr in route

I saw the news report they reported 3 deaths 7 injuries

http://www.local6.com/news/13912408/...09240208162007

Purrs on the way for the miners, the rescue workers and all of their
families and friends. I'm obviously no expert but you'd think in this day
and age they'd have better technology to help prevent cave-ins such as this
(I understand there is seismic activity in that area?). And what horrible
news for the families and friends of the miners to hear/read news reports
they are considering giving up the rescue efforts.

Jill

If anyone has some spare purrs, more are needed for the miners in
Utah. There has been another cave in at the Huntington mine and
apparently several of the rescuers were injured. There is also a
rumor of one death.

Purr in route

I saw the news report they reported 3 deaths 7 injuries


http://www.local6.com/news/13912408/...09240208162007

Purrs on the way for the miners, the rescue workers and all of their
families and friends. I'm obviously no expert but you'd think in this day
and age they'd have better technology to help prevent cave-ins such as this
(I understand there is seismic activity in that area?). And what horrible
news for the families and friends of the miners to hear/read news reports
they are considering giving up the rescue efforts.

Jill


Prayers and purrs on the way for all that are even remotely involved
with the rescue.

"mlbriggs" wrote in message
news
If anyone has some spare purrs, more are needed for the miners in Utah.
There has been another cave in at the Huntington mine and apparently
several of the rescuers were injured. There is also a rumor of one death.


We always have spare purrs around here. We can't imagine what the miners,
rescuers and families are going through, and we send them our purrs and best
thoughts.

Matthew wrote:

"mlbriggs" wrote in message
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If anyone has some spare purrs, more are needed for the miners in Utah.
There has been another cave in at the Huntington mine and apparently
several of the rescuers were injured. There is also a rumor of one death.

Does anyone think the original victims are still alive?
Miners should get "danger money" like anyone else in a
hazardous line of work, but do they? Since the "labor
movement" has been emasculated by the joint efforts of big
business and our government, are even reasonable safety
measures required?


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I saw the news report they reported 3 deaths 7 injuries
http://www.local6.com/news/13912408/...09240208162007

On Aug 17, 1:07 pm, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
wrote:
Matthew wrote:
"mlbriggs" wrote in message
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If anyone has some spare purrs, more are needed for the miners in Utah.
There has been another cave in at the Huntington mine and apparently
several of the rescuers were injured. There is also a rumor of one death.

Does anyone think the original victims are still alive?
Miners should get "danger money" like anyone else in a
hazardous line of work, but do they? Since the "labor
movement" has been emasculated by the joint efforts of big
business and our government, are even reasonable safety
measures required?

I watched a program once about the coal mines in W. Virginia,
Kentucky, etc. It was
considered a highly-paid job, compared to other jobs in the area. The
really unfortunate
thing is, a lot of the men knew how dangerous it was, in so many
ways...besides
the possibility of injury, many of their fathers had worked in the
mines & suffered
lung disease from it. But for many, in that area, it was the only way
they could earn a decent
salary for their families. Really a sad Catch-22.

Sherry

Does anyone think the original victims are still alive?

Depends on how wet the mine is. With no floodwaters rising
and no toxic gases, some of them could live for weeks.


Miners should get "danger money" like anyone else in a
hazardous line of work, but do they?

An idea of what mine work is like: in WW2, British miners were
forbidden to join the armed forces at first - being shot at by
the Germans was a soft option compared with staying put to work
underground.


I watched a program once about the coal mines in W. Virginia,
Kentucky, etc. It was considered a highly-paid job, compared
to other jobs in the area.

There *were* no other jobs in the area.

This page is interesting:

http://www.wvculture.org/History/minewars.html

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On Aug 17, 1:07 pm, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
wrote:
Matthew wrote:
"mlbriggs" wrote in message
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If anyone has some spare purrs, more are needed for the miners in Utah.
There has been another cave in at the Huntington mine and apparently
several of the rescuers were injured. There is also a rumor of one
death.

Does anyone think the original victims are still alive?
Miners should get "danger money" like anyone else in a
hazardous line of work, but do they? Since the "labor
movement" has been emasculated by the joint efforts of big
business and our government, are even reasonable safety
measures required?

I watched a program once about the coal mines in W. Virginia,
Kentucky, etc. It was
considered a highly-paid job, compared to other jobs in the area. The
really unfortunate
thing is, a lot of the men knew how dangerous it was, in so many
ways...besides
the possibility of injury, many of their fathers had worked in the
mines & suffered
lung disease from it. But for many, in that area, it was the only way
they could earn a decent
salary for their families. Really a sad Catch-22.

Sherry


I was born and raised in Kentucky up in the mountains like I have said many
times before. I am for a coal mining town that still mines coal today. My
families worked the mines. I worked them mines during summer while I was in
High school. Our families worked the mines for many years till a lucky
break and we were able to raise horse as our main income among other things

When I was in the mines there was no safety rooms. there was no oxygen
mask units. Many of the tunnels still used canaries as a gas warning.
Cave ins were common. If there was a cave in you were considered dead.
It would take weeks to dig out the area if they did. The owners just closed
that section and went to the other areas. There were no computers to
monitor the activity of the mountain. In the cave you had a cave boss
their job was to watch the roof and walls and pull you out before a cave in.
It was your life in your hands. You still used hammer, chisel no power
equipment only to cut the main line. You used a old WW 2 type gas mask when
you went deep or you were cutting to keep dust from getting in your lungs.
I still remember the smell like a 3 year old gym sock that had fermented.
My uncle made me wear that mask every time I went down. We all did for we
had family die of Black lung. Many of the guys did not wear the mask or
there was no enough available

I still remember the old timers telling us that many of days men were
dragged dead out of the mines where they had inhaled some much coal dust
that they chocked to death. Back than they only used water to cool the
drills and to keep the dust out of the equipment. The workers were dime a
dozen many would die to make money and die they did. The money was good
even back than I was making 12 an hour union wages. Now I have a friend
you coal cuts; runs the drill $45 an hour union wages. he stays down only
3 hours at a time only twice a day in a environmental suit. There is a guy
who stands in a bucket truck hosing the coal and trucks down to prevent dust
from flying he make $10 union wages; no bad to run a hose. The cost of
living is cheap up there

The only times I was scared was when we went down the elevator there were
no hand rails or safety bars. They crammed you in many of men lost their
toes or fingers. A few were even dragged down the shaft when they lost
their balance. There was only a maybe 3 inch clearance around the shaft
elevator.
I worked during my first couple years of high school but after a major cave
in and deaths. I said time to move on

I don't know if people know this about 70% of the mines in the USA are still
operating in sub standards conditions. It is like illegal dumping it is
cheaper to pay the fines than do the right thing

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On Aug 17, 1:07 pm, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
wrote:
Matthew wrote:
"mlbriggs" wrote in message
news
If anyone has some spare purrs, more are needed for the miners in
Utah.
There has been another cave in at the Huntington mine and apparently
several of the rescuers were injured. There is also a rumor of one
death.

Does anyone think the original victims are still alive?
Miners should get "danger money" like anyone else in a
hazardous line of work, but do they? Since the "labor
movement" has been emasculated by the joint efforts of big
business and our government, are even reasonable safety
measures required?

I watched a program once about the coal mines in W. Virginia,
Kentucky, etc. It was
considered a highly-paid job, compared to other jobs in the area. The
really unfortunate
thing is, a lot of the men knew how dangerous it was, in so many
ways...besides
the possibility of injury, many of their fathers had worked in the
mines & suffered
lung disease from it. But for many, in that area, it was the only way
they could earn a decent
salary for their families. Really a sad Catch-22.

Sherry


I was born and raised in Kentucky up in the mountains like I have said
many times before. I am for a coal mining town that still mines coal
today. My families worked the mines. I worked them mines during summer
while I was in High school. Our families worked the mines for many years
till a lucky break and we were able to raise horse as our main income
among other things

When I was in the mines there was no safety rooms. there was no oxygen
mask units. Many of the tunnels still used canaries as a gas warning.
Cave ins were common. If there was a cave in you were considered dead.
It would take weeks to dig out the area if they did. The owners just
closed that section and went to the other areas. There were no computers
to monitor the activity of the mountain. In the cave you had a cave boss
their job was to watch the roof and walls and pull you out before a cave
in. It was your life in your hands. You still used hammer, chisel no
power equipment only to cut the main line. You used a old WW 2 type gas
mask when you went deep or you were cutting to keep dust from getting in
your lungs. I still remember the smell like a 3 year old gym sock that
had fermented. My uncle made me wear that mask every time I went down. We
all did for we had family die of Black lung. Many of the guys did not
wear the mask or there was no enough available

I still remember the old timers telling us that many of days men were
dragged dead out of the mines where they had inhaled some much coal dust
that they chocked to death. Back than they only used water to cool the
drills and to keep the dust out of the equipment. The workers were dime
a dozen many would die to make money and die they did. The money was
good even back than I was making 12 an hour union wages. Now I have a
friend you coal cuts; runs the drill $45 an hour union wages. he stays
down only 3 hours at a time only twice a day in a environmental suit.
There is a guy who stands in a bucket truck hosing the coal and trucks
down to prevent dust from flying he make $10 union wages; no bad to run
a hose. The cost of living is cheap up there

The only times I was scared was when we went down the elevator there were
no hand rails or safety bars. They crammed you in many of men lost their
toes or fingers. A few were even dragged down the shaft when they lost
their balance. There was only a maybe 3 inch clearance around the shaft
elevator.
I worked during my first couple years of high school but after a major
cave in and deaths. I said time to move on

I don't know if people know this about 70% of the mines in the USA are
still operating in sub standards conditions. It is like illegal dumping
it is cheaper to pay the fines than do the right thing

Thanks for sharing this, Matthew. It told me a lot I didn't know about
mining. I'm surprised there are still people willing to take the risk of
working in mines. I guess money is a powerful incentive.

Joy