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Old April 13th 04, 06:20 AM
Elly
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Default symptoms of intestinal cancer

My 12 year old cat cat has just been diagnosed with intestinal cancer
mostly because she has an elevated white blood count and a lowered
protein and no other symptoms such as feline lukiema or thyroid
trouble, and no kidney involvement. She does not have any liver
malfunction. There have been blood tests but no biopsy or ultra
sound. The vets are proposing ultrasound but I am wary of any
invasive procedures. I have read all the threads on cats with
intestinal cancer, but I would like to know if cats with these
symptoms actually increase their appetite which mine is doing, but
still lose weight. She is not on any medication. My cat has lost a
lot of weight over the last 8 months and that is why I took her to the
vet. Further, when not eating she occasionally makes rather funny
movements with her mouth (like a grinding)and I am not sure what that
means. I just wanted to know if anyone has any further ideas,
suggestions or verification that these symptoms are congruent with the
diagnoses. (They did suggest she might have an inflamed bowel but she
does not have diahrea) My cat does not have teeth problems. She was
given a shot for worms about 3 months ago. When I suggested I took in
a stool sample, the vet said it was not needed; the blood tests would
tell all...
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Old April 13th 04, 06:46 AM
Lotte
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Elly -- As with all serious illnesses, I would suggest that you get a second
opinion. -- L.

"Elly" wrote in message
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My 12 year old cat cat has just been diagnosed with intestinal cancer
mostly because she has an elevated white blood count and a lowered
protein and no other symptoms such as feline lukiema or thyroid
trouble, and no kidney involvement. She does not have any liver
malfunction. There have been blood tests but no biopsy or ultra
sound. The vets are proposing ultrasound but I am wary of any
invasive procedures. I have read all the threads on cats with
intestinal cancer, but I would like to know if cats with these
symptoms actually increase their appetite which mine is doing, but
still lose weight. She is not on any medication. My cat has lost a
lot of weight over the last 8 months and that is why I took her to the
vet. Further, when not eating she occasionally makes rather funny
movements with her mouth (like a grinding)and I am not sure what that
means. I just wanted to know if anyone has any further ideas,
suggestions or verification that these symptoms are congruent with the
diagnoses. (They did suggest she might have an inflamed bowel but she
does not have diahrea) My cat does not have teeth problems. She was
given a shot for worms about 3 months ago. When I suggested I took in
a stool sample, the vet said it was not needed; the blood tests would
tell all...



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Old April 13th 04, 06:46 AM
Lotte
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Elly -- As with all serious illnesses, I would suggest that you get a second
opinion. -- L.

"Elly" wrote in message
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My 12 year old cat cat has just been diagnosed with intestinal cancer
mostly because she has an elevated white blood count and a lowered
protein and no other symptoms such as feline lukiema or thyroid
trouble, and no kidney involvement. She does not have any liver
malfunction. There have been blood tests but no biopsy or ultra
sound. The vets are proposing ultrasound but I am wary of any
invasive procedures. I have read all the threads on cats with
intestinal cancer, but I would like to know if cats with these
symptoms actually increase their appetite which mine is doing, but
still lose weight. She is not on any medication. My cat has lost a
lot of weight over the last 8 months and that is why I took her to the
vet. Further, when not eating she occasionally makes rather funny
movements with her mouth (like a grinding)and I am not sure what that
means. I just wanted to know if anyone has any further ideas,
suggestions or verification that these symptoms are congruent with the
diagnoses. (They did suggest she might have an inflamed bowel but she
does not have diahrea) My cat does not have teeth problems. She was
given a shot for worms about 3 months ago. When I suggested I took in
a stool sample, the vet said it was not needed; the blood tests would
tell all...



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Old April 13th 04, 12:24 PM
Wendy
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"Elly" wrote in message
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My 12 year old cat cat has just been diagnosed with intestinal cancer
mostly because she has an elevated white blood count and a lowered
protein and no other symptoms such as feline lukiema or thyroid
trouble, and no kidney involvement. She does not have any liver
malfunction. There have been blood tests but no biopsy or ultra
sound. The vets are proposing ultrasound but I am wary of any
invasive procedures. I have read all the threads on cats with
intestinal cancer, but I would like to know if cats with these
symptoms actually increase their appetite which mine is doing, but
still lose weight. She is not on any medication. My cat has lost a
lot of weight over the last 8 months and that is why I took her to the
vet. Further, when not eating she occasionally makes rather funny
movements with her mouth (like a grinding)and I am not sure what that
means. I just wanted to know if anyone has any further ideas,
suggestions or verification that these symptoms are congruent with the
diagnoses. (They did suggest she might have an inflamed bowel but she
does not have diahrea) My cat does not have teeth problems. She was
given a shot for worms about 3 months ago. When I suggested I took in
a stool sample, the vet said it was not needed; the blood tests would
tell all...


I'd have the ultrasound done to find out exactly what you are dealing with.
We had one done on our Fuffernutter when he was losing weight. The only
other thing that alerted us to a problem was the "greasy" appearance of his
fur. He also had an elevated white count and showed "something" on X-ray.
Turned out he had cancer everywhere including his liver. Not what I wanted
to hear but better than not being sure.

The procedure isn't invasive. The biggest hassle for Fluffer was that they
shaved his belly. He wasn't upset by the procedure any more than he was by
any other vet appointment.

W


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Old April 13th 04, 12:24 PM
Wendy
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"Elly" wrote in message
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My 12 year old cat cat has just been diagnosed with intestinal cancer
mostly because she has an elevated white blood count and a lowered
protein and no other symptoms such as feline lukiema or thyroid
trouble, and no kidney involvement. She does not have any liver
malfunction. There have been blood tests but no biopsy or ultra
sound. The vets are proposing ultrasound but I am wary of any
invasive procedures. I have read all the threads on cats with
intestinal cancer, but I would like to know if cats with these
symptoms actually increase their appetite which mine is doing, but
still lose weight. She is not on any medication. My cat has lost a
lot of weight over the last 8 months and that is why I took her to the
vet. Further, when not eating she occasionally makes rather funny
movements with her mouth (like a grinding)and I am not sure what that
means. I just wanted to know if anyone has any further ideas,
suggestions or verification that these symptoms are congruent with the
diagnoses. (They did suggest she might have an inflamed bowel but she
does not have diahrea) My cat does not have teeth problems. She was
given a shot for worms about 3 months ago. When I suggested I took in
a stool sample, the vet said it was not needed; the blood tests would
tell all...


I'd have the ultrasound done to find out exactly what you are dealing with.
We had one done on our Fuffernutter when he was losing weight. The only
other thing that alerted us to a problem was the "greasy" appearance of his
fur. He also had an elevated white count and showed "something" on X-ray.
Turned out he had cancer everywhere including his liver. Not what I wanted
to hear but better than not being sure.

The procedure isn't invasive. The biggest hassle for Fluffer was that they
shaved his belly. He wasn't upset by the procedure any more than he was by
any other vet appointment.

W


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Old April 13th 04, 02:00 PM
Liz
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(Elly) wrote in message . com...
My 12 year old cat cat has just been diagnosed with intestinal cancer
mostly because she has an elevated white blood count and a lowered
protein and no other symptoms such as feline lukiema or thyroid
trouble, and no kidney involvement. She does not have any liver
malfunction. There have been blood tests but no biopsy or ultra
sound. The vets are proposing ultrasound but I am wary of any
invasive procedures.


I´m very sorry for your kitty and for you. Ultrasound is not invasive
at all.

I have read all the threads on cats with
intestinal cancer, but I would like to know if cats with these
symptoms actually increase their appetite which mine is doing, but
still lose weight.


This is typical of all cancers as far as I know.

She is not on any medication. My cat has lost a
lot of weight over the last 8 months and that is why I took her to the
vet. Further, when not eating she occasionally makes rather funny
movements with her mouth (like a grinding)and I am not sure what that
means. I just wanted to know if anyone has any further ideas,
suggestions or verification that these symptoms are congruent with the
diagnoses. (They did suggest she might have an inflamed bowel but she
does not have diahrea)


In some cases IBD causes constipation and not diarrhea. Yet, I believe
that if she does not have diarrhea, IBD would not be enough to make
her lose weight.

If you do an ultrasound you might know if she indeed has intestinal
cancer. There has probably been adherance of abdominal organs due to
the cancer and that is easily seen in the ultrasound.

The only thing that I can think of that would have the same symptom as
cancer (eat a lot and lose weight) is diabetes. Has she been tested
for diabetes?

My heart goes out to you. Hopefully it´s diabetes and not cancer.
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Old April 13th 04, 02:00 PM
Liz
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(Elly) wrote in message . com...
My 12 year old cat cat has just been diagnosed with intestinal cancer
mostly because she has an elevated white blood count and a lowered
protein and no other symptoms such as feline lukiema or thyroid
trouble, and no kidney involvement. She does not have any liver
malfunction. There have been blood tests but no biopsy or ultra
sound. The vets are proposing ultrasound but I am wary of any
invasive procedures.


I´m very sorry for your kitty and for you. Ultrasound is not invasive
at all.

I have read all the threads on cats with
intestinal cancer, but I would like to know if cats with these
symptoms actually increase their appetite which mine is doing, but
still lose weight.


This is typical of all cancers as far as I know.

She is not on any medication. My cat has lost a
lot of weight over the last 8 months and that is why I took her to the
vet. Further, when not eating she occasionally makes rather funny
movements with her mouth (like a grinding)and I am not sure what that
means. I just wanted to know if anyone has any further ideas,
suggestions or verification that these symptoms are congruent with the
diagnoses. (They did suggest she might have an inflamed bowel but she
does not have diahrea)


In some cases IBD causes constipation and not diarrhea. Yet, I believe
that if she does not have diarrhea, IBD would not be enough to make
her lose weight.

If you do an ultrasound you might know if she indeed has intestinal
cancer. There has probably been adherance of abdominal organs due to
the cancer and that is easily seen in the ultrasound.

The only thing that I can think of that would have the same symptom as
cancer (eat a lot and lose weight) is diabetes. Has she been tested
for diabetes?

My heart goes out to you. Hopefully it´s diabetes and not cancer.
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Old April 13th 04, 06:51 PM
Mary
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The vets are proposing ultrasound but I am wary of any
invasive procedures. I have read all the threads on cats with
intestinal cancer, but I would like to know if cats with these
symptoms actually increase their appetite which mine is doing, but
still lose weight.


Ultrasound is not invasive. I've had it done. They put jelly on your skin and
roll a plastic device over your skin. With kitties they have to shave their
bellies. My cat had an xray that showed something. They did ultrasound to
confirm liver and stomach cancer. He only lost a pound from when he started
seeming ill then went way down hill within days then I let him go to sleep.
Eating a lot and not gaining weight is a basic sign of cancer. It's also a sign
that the intestines are not functioning properly. Intestines break down and
absorb nutrients. Two days before my cat died he made a movement with his mouth
like he was eating food. He wanted to eat but eating made him ill. I also help
a tsp of tuna juice under his mouth and he made a licking movement over the
juice but would not touch it. He also laid on his back with his legs spread out
a lot and walked like his stomach hurt him, crouched low, head down. The first
doctor said he just had an upset stomach or I would have let him go to sleep
sooner.
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Old April 13th 04, 06:51 PM
Mary
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The vets are proposing ultrasound but I am wary of any
invasive procedures. I have read all the threads on cats with
intestinal cancer, but I would like to know if cats with these
symptoms actually increase their appetite which mine is doing, but
still lose weight.


Ultrasound is not invasive. I've had it done. They put jelly on your skin and
roll a plastic device over your skin. With kitties they have to shave their
bellies. My cat had an xray that showed something. They did ultrasound to
confirm liver and stomach cancer. He only lost a pound from when he started
seeming ill then went way down hill within days then I let him go to sleep.
Eating a lot and not gaining weight is a basic sign of cancer. It's also a sign
that the intestines are not functioning properly. Intestines break down and
absorb nutrients. Two days before my cat died he made a movement with his mouth
like he was eating food. He wanted to eat but eating made him ill. I also help
a tsp of tuna juice under his mouth and he made a licking movement over the
juice but would not touch it. He also laid on his back with his legs spread out
a lot and walked like his stomach hurt him, crouched low, head down. The first
doctor said he just had an upset stomach or I would have let him go to sleep
sooner.
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Old April 14th 04, 07:09 PM
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I am so sorry to hear about the cancer.

As far as I know there is no official cure for it. The only suggestion I can
give you is to try alternative medicine, mainly Homeopatic medicine. I have
read a lot of great things about it, and how it can help with number of
deseases. Here in UK, there is a number of vets qualified in Homeopathy as
well, and although the initial treatment is pricey (~£100) it;s worth it,
especially in deseases like this. here are few links to do with cat cancer
and Homeopathy for your review. I wish you both all the best, and to have
many more years together.

http://www.trusthomeopathy.org/educa...ng/pa_vet.html

http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/gr...115/cancer.htm
http://www.geocities.com/feline_squamous_cell_cancer/
http://www.catclinic.co.uk/health/lymphoma.htm
http://www.oncolink.org/
http://barbarascamera.com/punkie.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Bluffs/7995/

Gee


 




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