declawing

In article ,
) wrote:

Prove it...

I got a lot of mileage out of that post...
Why did I troll that list? You'd have to hang out there for a bit to
understand.

There is a subtle competition there to come up with heated subjects to
generate the most posts. Beating dogs surprisingly did not generate as
many as another competitors thread about gun control.

Maybe I ought to try posting about declawing there. ;-)

K.

Holy crap, I thought you were a real contributer to rpdb which is why I
have continued to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you really are
just a troll! Wow, good one!

-Alison in OH

In article ,
) wrote:

Prove it...

I got a lot of mileage out of that post...
Why did I troll that list? You'd have to hang out there for a bit to
understand.

There is a subtle competition there to come up with heated subjects to
generate the most posts. Beating dogs surprisingly did not generate as
many as another competitors thread about gun control.

Maybe I ought to try posting about declawing there. ;-)

K.

Holy crap, I thought you were a real contributer to rpdb which is why I
have continued to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you really are
just a troll! Wow, good one!

-Alison in OH

In article ,
enlightened us with...
kaeli wrote in


In article ,
enlightened us with...

If toes are all the same, why aren't dogs routinely declawed?


Dogs, cats, and humans all have bones in their toes. Sorry if that's
news to you.


Because they don't use their claws the same way cats do.

You mean they don't scratch?

No, I mean they don't use their claws the same as cats do. Cats scratch
much differently than dogs, or hadn't you noticed?

Of course they do. They can cause more
damage with their claws than a cat. They scratch the furniture when
they make a "bed", they dig holes in yards, they scratch people just by
jumping on them.


Um, a trained dog does none of these things.
A trained cat must still scratch something.

Do I really need to explain that to you or were you being
purposefully disingenuous?

There are many reasons why people want their dogs declawed. If vets
did everything their clients asked, there would be declawed dogs
running around. There's a reason that surgery isn't done.


What reason might that be?
Declawing a cat does damage to the cat. Declawing a dog would do damage
as well. Since one may damage a cat, why not a dog?

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In article ,
enlightened us with...
kaeli wrote in


In article ,
enlightened us with...

If toes are all the same, why aren't dogs routinely declawed?


Dogs, cats, and humans all have bones in their toes. Sorry if that's
news to you.


Because they don't use their claws the same way cats do.

You mean they don't scratch?

No, I mean they don't use their claws the same as cats do. Cats scratch
much differently than dogs, or hadn't you noticed?

Of course they do. They can cause more
damage with their claws than a cat. They scratch the furniture when
they make a "bed", they dig holes in yards, they scratch people just by
jumping on them.


Um, a trained dog does none of these things.
A trained cat must still scratch something.

Do I really need to explain that to you or were you being
purposefully disingenuous?

There are many reasons why people want their dogs declawed. If vets
did everything their clients asked, there would be declawed dogs
running around. There's a reason that surgery isn't done.


What reason might that be?
Declawing a cat does damage to the cat. Declawing a dog would do damage
as well. Since one may damage a cat, why not a dog?

-------------------------------------------------
~kaeli~
Why do people who know the least know it the loudest?
If that cell phone was up your a$$, maybe you could
drive a little better!
http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart
http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace
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Karen Chuplis wrote:

in article , Cathouse at
wrote on 8/19/03 6:38 AM:

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Cathouse wrote in message
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Cathouse wrote in message
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Katra wrote in



Yes, they should, but a 12 to 14 month old baby is NOT old
enough to be told "no" so has to be protected from overly
aggressive cats.

I am not going to apologize for helping my sister get booger
declawed. This was an unusual case of a cat that tended to
swipe more than any cat I've ever known... It will also
protect the adults.

I had Max declawed because of aggression. But not because he
scratched me, I get scratched all the time anyway.

He was rough with the other cats. Not mean, really, he just
played hard. He tackles with such force, they make a loud
thunk when they hit the floor. Occassionally, one gets it's
nose scratched, but he's not the only one that does that.

Unfortunately, Max doesn't get along with the dog. They never
have liked each other. The dog will just be standing next to
the couch and here comes Max, slinking out from behind it.
Then he jumps on the end table and smacks the dog in the face.
He got him in the eye once and almost blinded him.

Max laughed at the Soft Paws and chewed them off in two days.
Nail trimming? Out of the question. He howls, kicks, bites,
claws...by the end of it, he's panting. To keep his nails
dull, this needed to be done once a week.

Trying to keep from declawing him caused more stress than
declawing him. So, he had the laser surgery. His paws were
never tender and he's never had any trouble. In fact, he
behaves exactly as he did before. Except now, he can't put
anybody's eye out.

Thank you. :-)

Katra

Did you notice that there were no comments from the peanut
gallery?

Yes, I did notice...
I got raked over the coals for helping my sister to declaw ONE
cat, while caring for 36 others without even considering the
surgery. This post by someone else got ignored.

What's up with that?

It was my post. They must be afraid of me.

Hey, Katra, did you even THINK of trying Soft Paws?

Karen

He chewed them off...

K.

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Karen Chuplis wrote:

in article , Cathouse at
wrote on 8/19/03 6:38 AM:

) wrote in
om

Cathouse wrote in message
...
) wrote in
om

Cathouse wrote in message
...
Katra wrote in



Yes, they should, but a 12 to 14 month old baby is NOT old
enough to be told "no" so has to be protected from overly
aggressive cats.

I am not going to apologize for helping my sister get booger
declawed. This was an unusual case of a cat that tended to
swipe more than any cat I've ever known... It will also
protect the adults.

I had Max declawed because of aggression. But not because he
scratched me, I get scratched all the time anyway.

He was rough with the other cats. Not mean, really, he just
played hard. He tackles with such force, they make a loud
thunk when they hit the floor. Occassionally, one gets it's
nose scratched, but he's not the only one that does that.

Unfortunately, Max doesn't get along with the dog. They never
have liked each other. The dog will just be standing next to
the couch and here comes Max, slinking out from behind it.
Then he jumps on the end table and smacks the dog in the face.
He got him in the eye once and almost blinded him.

Max laughed at the Soft Paws and chewed them off in two days.
Nail trimming? Out of the question. He howls, kicks, bites,
claws...by the end of it, he's panting. To keep his nails
dull, this needed to be done once a week.

Trying to keep from declawing him caused more stress than
declawing him. So, he had the laser surgery. His paws were
never tender and he's never had any trouble. In fact, he
behaves exactly as he did before. Except now, he can't put
anybody's eye out.

Thank you. :-)

Katra

Did you notice that there were no comments from the peanut
gallery?

Yes, I did notice...
I got raked over the coals for helping my sister to declaw ONE
cat, while caring for 36 others without even considering the
surgery. This post by someone else got ignored.

What's up with that?

It was my post. They must be afraid of me.

Hey, Katra, did you even THINK of trying Soft Paws?

Karen

He chewed them off...

K.

--
^,,^ Cats-haven Hobby Farm ^,,^ ^,,^

Breast Implants are the Stupidest idea ever. If I wanted to fondle
$10,000.oo worth of Silicon, I'd buy a new computer! --Anon.

Custom handcrafts, Sterling silver beaded jewelry
http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAP...s&userid=katra

kaeli wrote:

There are many reasons why people want their dogs declawed. If vets
did everything their clients asked, there would be declawed dogs
running around. There's a reason that surgery isn't done.


What reason might that be?
Declawing a cat does damage to the cat. Declawing a dog would do damage
as well. Since one may damage a cat, why not a dog?

Yes, I would also like to know the reason that the declawing of dogs is not as
common as the declawing of cats. (It's not true to say it isn't done, because
some vets are willing to do it.) But why are far more vets willing to declaw
cats than are willing to declaw dogs?

kaeli wrote:

There are many reasons why people want their dogs declawed. If vets
did everything their clients asked, there would be declawed dogs
running around. There's a reason that surgery isn't done.


What reason might that be?
Declawing a cat does damage to the cat. Declawing a dog would do damage
as well. Since one may damage a cat, why not a dog?

Yes, I would also like to know the reason that the declawing of dogs is not as
common as the declawing of cats. (It's not true to say it isn't done, because
some vets are willing to do it.) But why are far more vets willing to declaw
cats than are willing to declaw dogs?

From: ospam (Yngver)

Yes, I would also like to know the reason that the declawing of dogs is not
as
common as the declawing of cats. (It's not true to say it isn't done, because
some vets are willing to do it.) But why are far more vets willing to declaw
cats than are willing to declaw dogs?

This probably shows how jaded I am about vets, but I think it could be that
some vets are dog people and don't really care for cats. Also, maybe it's
because doing cats is a lot easier since their feet are smaller and their bones
easier to cut through.

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: ospam (Yngver)

Yes, I would also like to know the reason that the declawing of dogs is not
as
common as the declawing of cats. (It's not true to say it isn't done, because
some vets are willing to do it.) But why are far more vets willing to declaw
cats than are willing to declaw dogs?

This probably shows how jaded I am about vets, but I think it could be that
some vets are dog people and don't really care for cats. Also, maybe it's
because doing cats is a lot easier since their feet are smaller and their bones
easier to cut through.

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm