declawing

In ,
Cathouse composed with style:

Pretty funny, at least you have a sense of humor amidst all the
anger you've been spewing in this thread.

Oh, look, it's an IKYABWAI.

Oh, look, it's a predictable response.

The truth still is that you,
Catbox, have no posting history and some of these silly flame wars
usually end up with one of them creating new personas that agree
with their warped ideas. It's very amusing and predictable.



Who's "them"? You might want to see someone about this paranoia
thing you've got going on.

You're new here, aren't you.

In ,
Cathouse composed with style:

Pretty funny, at least you have a sense of humor amidst all the
anger you've been spewing in this thread.

Oh, look, it's an IKYABWAI.

Oh, look, it's a predictable response.

The truth still is that you,
Catbox, have no posting history and some of these silly flame wars
usually end up with one of them creating new personas that agree
with their warped ideas. It's very amusing and predictable.



Who's "them"? You might want to see someone about this paranoia
thing you've got going on.

You're new here, aren't you.

In ,
Cathouse composed with style:
kaeli wrote in


In article ,
enlightened us with...

I think so, too, but I figured I'd mention it in case anyone else
reading the thread got confuzzled. LOL
Dewclawing and declawing are so similar that when reading
literature, one might confuse the two terms.

Declawing and removing dewclaws are no where near "similar".


The words "declaw" and "dewclaw" are merely one letter apart.
Why, gooollllyyyy.

Only an idiot would confuse the two.

What's up with the constant Ad hominem attacks? Is that all you know?
I return back to my original statement to you: You started out
seemingly a smartish dweeb who has now sunk to the lowest of low on
Usenet. Congrats. You need to calm down and go pet your cat.

In ,
Cathouse composed with style:
kaeli wrote in


In article ,
enlightened us with...

I think so, too, but I figured I'd mention it in case anyone else
reading the thread got confuzzled. LOL
Dewclawing and declawing are so similar that when reading
literature, one might confuse the two terms.

Declawing and removing dewclaws are no where near "similar".


The words "declaw" and "dewclaw" are merely one letter apart.
Why, gooollllyyyy.

Only an idiot would confuse the two.

What's up with the constant Ad hominem attacks? Is that all you know?
I return back to my original statement to you: You started out
seemingly a smartish dweeb who has now sunk to the lowest of low on
Usenet. Congrats. You need to calm down and go pet your cat.

"Cheryl" wrote in message ...
In ,
Cathouse composed with style:
) wrote in
om

"Cheryl" wrote in message
...
In om,
composed with style:

Katra does not have the software/hardware to be a sockpuppet
yet... When she does have the money to do so, (and have not
spent it on the cats),
watch out. ;-)

Damn that sounds like a threat. FTR, it isn't like it costs money
to sock it up.


Actually, it does, if you don't want to mess with a remailer...

Sometimes it is useful to be able to change identities. It does
not work just changing the ID in your browser. People will still
know it's just a sock puppet as the IP address is the same.

I'm really glad you believe that.

It's true... I learned the hard way when I attempted the sockpuppet
Zed1 on MFW. G Typical dumb mistake of a newbie to usenet... I got
tired of trolling and decided to attempt to become a contributing list
member again.

Didn't work.

If I want to hide the IP, I'll have to jack in an exbox next to my
modem.
That changes the IP address, and would probably cut back on spam as
well! I've been too cheap to buy one yet.


I found a new group for these people to post in.

Pretty funny, at least you have a sense of humor amidst all the anger
you've been spewing in this thread. The truth still is that you,
Catbox, have no posting history and some of these silly flame wars
usually end up with one of them creating new personas that agree with
their warped ideas. It's very amusing and predictable.

You are answering two different people here. I'm still trying to
understand what he meant by that. ;-)

Just changing the identity headers in your browser, (in my case,
netscape) will get you by most people that don't bother to take the
time to look. Once you get nailed tho' by someone that harvests the
headers, you learn...... :-P

Poor little Pun on the UK bodybuilding list learnt the same hard
lesson.
No, he was not me, but it was fun seeing him get busted. G

K.

"Cheryl" wrote in message ...
In ,
Cathouse composed with style:
) wrote in
om

"Cheryl" wrote in message
...
In om,
composed with style:

Katra does not have the software/hardware to be a sockpuppet
yet... When she does have the money to do so, (and have not
spent it on the cats),
watch out. ;-)

Damn that sounds like a threat. FTR, it isn't like it costs money
to sock it up.


Actually, it does, if you don't want to mess with a remailer...

Sometimes it is useful to be able to change identities. It does
not work just changing the ID in your browser. People will still
know it's just a sock puppet as the IP address is the same.

I'm really glad you believe that.

It's true... I learned the hard way when I attempted the sockpuppet
Zed1 on MFW. G Typical dumb mistake of a newbie to usenet... I got
tired of trolling and decided to attempt to become a contributing list
member again.

Didn't work.

If I want to hide the IP, I'll have to jack in an exbox next to my
modem.
That changes the IP address, and would probably cut back on spam as
well! I've been too cheap to buy one yet.


I found a new group for these people to post in.

Pretty funny, at least you have a sense of humor amidst all the anger
you've been spewing in this thread. The truth still is that you,
Catbox, have no posting history and some of these silly flame wars
usually end up with one of them creating new personas that agree with
their warped ideas. It's very amusing and predictable.

You are answering two different people here. I'm still trying to
understand what he meant by that. ;-)

Just changing the identity headers in your browser, (in my case,
netscape) will get you by most people that don't bother to take the
time to look. Once you get nailed tho' by someone that harvests the
headers, you learn...... :-P

Poor little Pun on the UK bodybuilding list learnt the same hard
lesson.
No, he was not me, but it was fun seeing him get busted. G

K.

Okay, I just don't know right now...
Please don't think I have not listened to the comments posted about
declawing cats.

The basic reason it was done in the first place was......

Fear.

Sheer terror that this cat would and could do permanent harm to the
baby. That scratch across his eye was just too damned close.

When the decision was made, I was going on the assumption that it was,
although certainly not pleasant or painless to the cat, at least
reasonably harmless. With Tabitha around, declawed on front paws, it
seemed a reasonable course of action. She has never had any problems and
she is about 11 years old now.

If I had it to do all over again now that I've been educated?

I don't know...... ;-( I'll keep you posted on how he does if you are interested.

If Shade (aka Booger) had not been given so many chances over the past 2
years of his life, if he had not been REPEATEDLY so aggressive towards
anything that disturbed him, and shown a marked jealousy of the baby,
the outcome might have been different. All I ask is not forgiveness, but
just an understanding of what WE felt we were dealing with, and the fact
that we really did not know how badly we were maiming this animal. I
have never, ever declawed a cat before.

Yes, we did try soft paws. He chewed them off within 2 weeks. Maybe we
got the wrong size, I don't know. All I can say is that we panicked. The
babies welfare came before anything else. I don't expect you to
understand that at all, not after what I've seen posted this week.

Now, change of subject:

Food. Canned food and amount. To date, I've judged the amount of canned
food my gang gets by how much they eat. I used to feed 4 cans and they
licked the pans clean and went looking for more. I increased it to 5
cans, and now they leave some. The large cans of Whiskas are 21.2 oz. x
5 cans is 106 oz. for 36 cats, comes out to 2.94 oz. per cat.

Someone else calculated it earlier and they were way off. ;-) I think
they were thinking of the smaller can size...

Is this enough? Should I offer canned food twice per day instead of only
once? I've already been told I should discontinue the free-fed kibbles.
I'm not sure how the cats would feel about that, considering how
strongly they let me know about it if I accidentally let the bowls run
out. ;-) I like to let the kibble crocks get as low as possible before
re-filling to avoid leaving stale food.

The cats seem healthy enough except for the ones over 12 years of age.
They tend to be a bit thin, and we have 2 obese cats. Maris was already
a chub tho' when she came here. Wizard just grew up that way. He was one
of our bottle raised orphans. The rest are fine. I'm hoping that the
excersize that will be provided by the new cat furniture will help some.

Thanks,
K.

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Breast Implants are the Stupidest idea ever. If I wanted to fondle
$10,000.oo worth of Silicon, I'd buy a new computer! --Anon.

Custom handcrafts, Sterling silver beaded jewelry
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Okay, I just don't know right now...
Please don't think I have not listened to the comments posted about
declawing cats.

The basic reason it was done in the first place was......

Fear.

Sheer terror that this cat would and could do permanent harm to the
baby. That scratch across his eye was just too damned close.

When the decision was made, I was going on the assumption that it was,
although certainly not pleasant or painless to the cat, at least
reasonably harmless. With Tabitha around, declawed on front paws, it
seemed a reasonable course of action. She has never had any problems and
she is about 11 years old now.

If I had it to do all over again now that I've been educated?

I don't know...... ;-( I'll keep you posted on how he does if you are interested.

If Shade (aka Booger) had not been given so many chances over the past 2
years of his life, if he had not been REPEATEDLY so aggressive towards
anything that disturbed him, and shown a marked jealousy of the baby,
the outcome might have been different. All I ask is not forgiveness, but
just an understanding of what WE felt we were dealing with, and the fact
that we really did not know how badly we were maiming this animal. I
have never, ever declawed a cat before.

Yes, we did try soft paws. He chewed them off within 2 weeks. Maybe we
got the wrong size, I don't know. All I can say is that we panicked. The
babies welfare came before anything else. I don't expect you to
understand that at all, not after what I've seen posted this week.

Now, change of subject:

Food. Canned food and amount. To date, I've judged the amount of canned
food my gang gets by how much they eat. I used to feed 4 cans and they
licked the pans clean and went looking for more. I increased it to 5
cans, and now they leave some. The large cans of Whiskas are 21.2 oz. x
5 cans is 106 oz. for 36 cats, comes out to 2.94 oz. per cat.

Someone else calculated it earlier and they were way off. ;-) I think
they were thinking of the smaller can size...

Is this enough? Should I offer canned food twice per day instead of only
once? I've already been told I should discontinue the free-fed kibbles.
I'm not sure how the cats would feel about that, considering how
strongly they let me know about it if I accidentally let the bowls run
out. ;-) I like to let the kibble crocks get as low as possible before
re-filling to avoid leaving stale food.

The cats seem healthy enough except for the ones over 12 years of age.
They tend to be a bit thin, and we have 2 obese cats. Maris was already
a chub tho' when she came here. Wizard just grew up that way. He was one
of our bottle raised orphans. The rest are fine. I'm hoping that the
excersize that will be provided by the new cat furniture will help some.

Thanks,
K.

--
^,,^ Cats-haven Hobby Farm ^,,^ ^,,^

Breast Implants are the Stupidest idea ever. If I wanted to fondle
$10,000.oo worth of Silicon, I'd buy a new computer! --Anon.

Custom handcrafts, Sterling silver beaded jewelry
http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAP...s&userid=katra

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enlightened us with...

Then why is the number of declawed cats at the shelter "funny"?


If you have such comprehension problems, I give up.

It's funny how you cut out this part:

"Why, yes, I volunteer at a shelter. Funny how many declaws we have,
too."

So, why is that "funny"?


It's an expression, oh intelligent one.
It's called sarcasm. You're good at it, so you should recognize it. If
you can't, then you have more problems than I thought.

If you disagree with a point, do try to counter-point with
something relevant, eh?

I did. You might want to try paying closer attention.


You might try actually making one.

Forget it.

Do you always run! away! when you're losing an argument?


No, I "run away" when I realize I'm dealing with someone who is so
wrapped up in trying to be an idiot, there is no further point in trying
to have an intelligent debate. It's like having a battle of wits with an
unarmed opponent, and that's just wrong.

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In article ,
enlightened us with...

Then why is the number of declawed cats at the shelter "funny"?


If you have such comprehension problems, I give up.

It's funny how you cut out this part:

"Why, yes, I volunteer at a shelter. Funny how many declaws we have,
too."

So, why is that "funny"?


It's an expression, oh intelligent one.
It's called sarcasm. You're good at it, so you should recognize it. If
you can't, then you have more problems than I thought.

If you disagree with a point, do try to counter-point with
something relevant, eh?

I did. You might want to try paying closer attention.


You might try actually making one.

Forget it.

Do you always run! away! when you're losing an argument?


No, I "run away" when I realize I'm dealing with someone who is so
wrapped up in trying to be an idiot, there is no further point in trying
to have an intelligent debate. It's like having a battle of wits with an
unarmed opponent, and that's just wrong.

-------------------------------------------------
~kaeli~
Press any key to continue or any other key to quit.
Who is General Failure and why is he reading
my hard disk?
http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart
http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace
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