Advice needed

Personally, I've seen dead people in the street when I lived on the
South Side of Chicago (where my cat did not go out without a harness
because it wasn't safe), but I have never seen a dead cat in the
street. I've only seen roadkill in the country and it was skunks and
possums.

Whoa. You're saying you live in the US, you've seen dead people in the streets
but *never* a dead cat on the road? Ever?

Personally, I've seen dead people in the street when I lived on the
South Side of Chicago (where my cat did not go out without a harness
because it wasn't safe), but I have never seen a dead cat in the
street. I've only seen roadkill in the country and it was skunks and
possums.

Whoa. You're saying you live in the US, you've seen dead people in the streets
but *never* a dead cat on the road? Ever?

I am sure that some cats in the U.K. get hit by cars. I was thinking more of
warnings to those in the U.K. about dangers like coyotes. What's the point?

There isn't one. I've never specifically noticed anyone warning a UK poster
coyotes, though. I could have missed something, but I would imagine it would
simply be a case of someone not realizing a poster is from the UK, or not
realizing you all don't have coyotes like we do.

Sherry

I am sure that some cats in the U.K. get hit by cars. I was thinking more of
warnings to those in the U.K. about dangers like coyotes. What's the point?

There isn't one. I've never specifically noticed anyone warning a UK poster
coyotes, though. I could have missed something, but I would imagine it would
simply be a case of someone not realizing a poster is from the UK, or not
realizing you all don't have coyotes like we do.

Sherry

I am sure that some cats in the U.K. get hit by cars. I was thinking more of
warnings to those in the U.K. about dangers like coyotes. What's the point?

There isn't one. I've never specifically noticed anyone warning a UK poster
coyotes, though. I could have missed something, but I would imagine it would
simply be a case of someone not realizing a poster is from the UK, or not
realizing you all don't have coyotes like we do.

Sherry

That is soooo true, Tracy. Although I have received a lot of useful advice
here, the tone of the group is all a bit doom and gloom. I am in the UK and
I *personally* don't know of anyones cat that has died of anything other
than disease or old age and all of these were indoor/outdoor cats. I have
also never seen a dead cat at the side of the road and I do a lot of driving
with my job so I sort of wonder how common it actually is.


I wasn't even going to post about this cuz it's so icky but I will. I live in
the US, in Phoenix, in an urban neighborhood but quite quiet. I don't live on
a busy street or close to one and I don't know of any cat haters nearby. I
have indoor only cats but, in the 10 years that we have lived here, we have had
numerous outdoor ferals that we have cared for and something bad happens to a
lot of them.

Just Wednesday, sweet little Joey, a black and white tuxedo feral, spayed, who
we have fed for the last 5 or 6 months, showed up in our yard obviously very
ill. Despite barely being able to walk and having seizures, she was able to
defend herself against us so we could not pick her up. I had to call the AZ
Humane Society who has an ambulance service and they came and were able to net
her. The Emergency Vet Tech said she appeared to have been poisoned so they
took her away for euthanasia. He said he would go directly back to the shelter
with her so that she would not suffer needlessly for much longer. It was very,
very sad. Like I said, it's a quiet street, she had plenty of food and very
nice shelter in our yard, toys, trees, birds, spent a great deal of time here
on her chair in the carport or in the yard, was spayed, but she got into
something somewhere. I hope it wasn't an intentional poisoning but I don't
know. We have 3 other ferals that we also currently feed and care for so I'm
worried about them, too.

Three years ago we had another sweet stray cat, Bentley, neutered, who we
originally thought was feral but was not and we left him outside because he
seemed to enjoy it and we had 4 indoor cats at the time and just figured he
would be okay. He was attacked one night by 2 loose dogs in my front yard and
had to be euthanized. That, too, was awful. I'll never forget the deaths of
Bentley and Joey.

And there have been other ferals and strays that we fed for a long time who
disappeared...Spot, Toasty, Langley...I don't know where they went. Spot was
here for a year and a half and then gone one day without a trace.

Yet, there are tons of homed as well as stray cats in this neighborhood who are
outside most or all the time. I can't bring them all in so I do what I can for
those who remain outside but I certainly don't think it's a good solution and
if they were "my" cats like my indoor cats are "my" cats, I wouldn't have them
out there. My only slight consolation is Joey seemed to very much enjoy her
outdoor life, she was a cat's cat, but I don't think she was more than about 2
years old so that wasn't a fair trade maybe.


Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human." (Loren Eisely)

That is soooo true, Tracy. Although I have received a lot of useful advice
here, the tone of the group is all a bit doom and gloom. I am in the UK and
I *personally* don't know of anyones cat that has died of anything other
than disease or old age and all of these were indoor/outdoor cats. I have
also never seen a dead cat at the side of the road and I do a lot of driving
with my job so I sort of wonder how common it actually is.


I wasn't even going to post about this cuz it's so icky but I will. I live in
the US, in Phoenix, in an urban neighborhood but quite quiet. I don't live on
a busy street or close to one and I don't know of any cat haters nearby. I
have indoor only cats but, in the 10 years that we have lived here, we have had
numerous outdoor ferals that we have cared for and something bad happens to a
lot of them.

Just Wednesday, sweet little Joey, a black and white tuxedo feral, spayed, who
we have fed for the last 5 or 6 months, showed up in our yard obviously very
ill. Despite barely being able to walk and having seizures, she was able to
defend herself against us so we could not pick her up. I had to call the AZ
Humane Society who has an ambulance service and they came and were able to net
her. The Emergency Vet Tech said she appeared to have been poisoned so they
took her away for euthanasia. He said he would go directly back to the shelter
with her so that she would not suffer needlessly for much longer. It was very,
very sad. Like I said, it's a quiet street, she had plenty of food and very
nice shelter in our yard, toys, trees, birds, spent a great deal of time here
on her chair in the carport or in the yard, was spayed, but she got into
something somewhere. I hope it wasn't an intentional poisoning but I don't
know. We have 3 other ferals that we also currently feed and care for so I'm
worried about them, too.

Three years ago we had another sweet stray cat, Bentley, neutered, who we
originally thought was feral but was not and we left him outside because he
seemed to enjoy it and we had 4 indoor cats at the time and just figured he
would be okay. He was attacked one night by 2 loose dogs in my front yard and
had to be euthanized. That, too, was awful. I'll never forget the deaths of
Bentley and Joey.

And there have been other ferals and strays that we fed for a long time who
disappeared...Spot, Toasty, Langley...I don't know where they went. Spot was
here for a year and a half and then gone one day without a trace.

Yet, there are tons of homed as well as stray cats in this neighborhood who are
outside most or all the time. I can't bring them all in so I do what I can for
those who remain outside but I certainly don't think it's a good solution and
if they were "my" cats like my indoor cats are "my" cats, I wouldn't have them
out there. My only slight consolation is Joey seemed to very much enjoy her
outdoor life, she was a cat's cat, but I don't think she was more than about 2
years old so that wasn't a fair trade maybe.


Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human." (Loren Eisely)

That is soooo true, Tracy. Although I have received a lot of useful advice
here, the tone of the group is all a bit doom and gloom. I am in the UK and
I *personally* don't know of anyones cat that has died of anything other
than disease or old age and all of these were indoor/outdoor cats. I have
also never seen a dead cat at the side of the road and I do a lot of driving
with my job so I sort of wonder how common it actually is.


I wasn't even going to post about this cuz it's so icky but I will. I live in
the US, in Phoenix, in an urban neighborhood but quite quiet. I don't live on
a busy street or close to one and I don't know of any cat haters nearby. I
have indoor only cats but, in the 10 years that we have lived here, we have had
numerous outdoor ferals that we have cared for and something bad happens to a
lot of them.

Just Wednesday, sweet little Joey, a black and white tuxedo feral, spayed, who
we have fed for the last 5 or 6 months, showed up in our yard obviously very
ill. Despite barely being able to walk and having seizures, she was able to
defend herself against us so we could not pick her up. I had to call the AZ
Humane Society who has an ambulance service and they came and were able to net
her. The Emergency Vet Tech said she appeared to have been poisoned so they
took her away for euthanasia. He said he would go directly back to the shelter
with her so that she would not suffer needlessly for much longer. It was very,
very sad. Like I said, it's a quiet street, she had plenty of food and very
nice shelter in our yard, toys, trees, birds, spent a great deal of time here
on her chair in the carport or in the yard, was spayed, but she got into
something somewhere. I hope it wasn't an intentional poisoning but I don't
know. We have 3 other ferals that we also currently feed and care for so I'm
worried about them, too.

Three years ago we had another sweet stray cat, Bentley, neutered, who we
originally thought was feral but was not and we left him outside because he
seemed to enjoy it and we had 4 indoor cats at the time and just figured he
would be okay. He was attacked one night by 2 loose dogs in my front yard and
had to be euthanized. That, too, was awful. I'll never forget the deaths of
Bentley and Joey.

And there have been other ferals and strays that we fed for a long time who
disappeared...Spot, Toasty, Langley...I don't know where they went. Spot was
here for a year and a half and then gone one day without a trace.

Yet, there are tons of homed as well as stray cats in this neighborhood who are
outside most or all the time. I can't bring them all in so I do what I can for
those who remain outside but I certainly don't think it's a good solution and
if they were "my" cats like my indoor cats are "my" cats, I wouldn't have them
out there. My only slight consolation is Joey seemed to very much enjoy her
outdoor life, she was a cat's cat, but I don't think she was more than about 2
years old so that wasn't a fair trade maybe.


Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human." (Loren Eisely)

I wasn't even going to post about this cuz it's so icky but I will. I live
in
the US, in Phoenix, in an urban neighborhood but quite quiet. I don't live
on
a busy street or close to one and I don't know of any cat haters nearby. I
have indoor only cats but, in the 10 years that we have lived here, we have
had
numerous outdoor ferals that we have cared for and something bad happens to a
lot of them.

Just Wednesday, sweet little Joey, a black and white tuxedo feral, spayed,
who
we have fed for the last 5 or 6 months, showed up in our yard obviously very
ill. Despite barely being able to walk and having seizures, she was able to
defend herself against us so we could not pick her up. I had to call the AZ
Humane Society who has an ambulance service and they came and were able to
net
her. The Emergency Vet Tech said she appeared to have been poisoned so they
took her away for euthanasia. He said he would go directly back to the
shelter
with her so that she would not suffer needlessly for much longer. It was
very,
very sad. Like I said, it's a quiet street, she had plenty of food and very
nice shelter in our yard, toys, trees, birds, spent a great deal of time here
on her chair in the carport or in the yard, was spayed, but she got into
something somewhere. I hope it wasn't an intentional poisoning but I don't
know. We have 3 other ferals that we also currently feed and care for so I'm
worried about them, too.

Three years ago we had another sweet stray cat, Bentley, neutered, who we
originally thought was feral but was not and we left him outside because he
seemed to enjoy it and we had 4 indoor cats at the time and just figured he
would be okay. He was attacked one night by 2 loose dogs in my front yard
and
had to be euthanized. That, too, was awful. I'll never forget the deaths of
Bentley and Joey.

And there have been other ferals and strays that we fed for a long time who
disappeared...Spot, Toasty, Langley...I don't know where they went. Spot was
here for a year and a half and then gone one day without a trace.

Yet, there are tons of homed as well as stray cats in this neighborhood who
are
outside most or all the time. I can't bring them all in so I do what I can
for
those who remain outside but I certainly don't think it's a good solution and
if they were "my" cats like my indoor cats are "my" cats, I wouldn't have
them
out there. My only slight consolation is Joey seemed to very much enjoy her
outdoor life, she was a cat's cat, but I don't think she was more than about
2
years old so that wasn't a fair trade maybe.


Candace

Well, it's icky, but it's reality. I am impressed that you have a pet
ambulance. What a wonderful service. I bet the techs can tell some chilling
stories. I could never deal with that job. Imagine the heartbreaking things
they see.

Sherry

I wasn't even going to post about this cuz it's so icky but I will. I live
in
the US, in Phoenix, in an urban neighborhood but quite quiet. I don't live
on
a busy street or close to one and I don't know of any cat haters nearby. I
have indoor only cats but, in the 10 years that we have lived here, we have
had
numerous outdoor ferals that we have cared for and something bad happens to a
lot of them.

Just Wednesday, sweet little Joey, a black and white tuxedo feral, spayed,
who
we have fed for the last 5 or 6 months, showed up in our yard obviously very
ill. Despite barely being able to walk and having seizures, she was able to
defend herself against us so we could not pick her up. I had to call the AZ
Humane Society who has an ambulance service and they came and were able to
net
her. The Emergency Vet Tech said she appeared to have been poisoned so they
took her away for euthanasia. He said he would go directly back to the
shelter
with her so that she would not suffer needlessly for much longer. It was
very,
very sad. Like I said, it's a quiet street, she had plenty of food and very
nice shelter in our yard, toys, trees, birds, spent a great deal of time here
on her chair in the carport or in the yard, was spayed, but she got into
something somewhere. I hope it wasn't an intentional poisoning but I don't
know. We have 3 other ferals that we also currently feed and care for so I'm
worried about them, too.

Three years ago we had another sweet stray cat, Bentley, neutered, who we
originally thought was feral but was not and we left him outside because he
seemed to enjoy it and we had 4 indoor cats at the time and just figured he
would be okay. He was attacked one night by 2 loose dogs in my front yard
and
had to be euthanized. That, too, was awful. I'll never forget the deaths of
Bentley and Joey.

And there have been other ferals and strays that we fed for a long time who
disappeared...Spot, Toasty, Langley...I don't know where they went. Spot was
here for a year and a half and then gone one day without a trace.

Yet, there are tons of homed as well as stray cats in this neighborhood who
are
outside most or all the time. I can't bring them all in so I do what I can
for
those who remain outside but I certainly don't think it's a good solution and
if they were "my" cats like my indoor cats are "my" cats, I wouldn't have
them
out there. My only slight consolation is Joey seemed to very much enjoy her
outdoor life, she was a cat's cat, but I don't think she was more than about
2
years old so that wasn't a fair trade maybe.


Candace

Well, it's icky, but it's reality. I am impressed that you have a pet
ambulance. What a wonderful service. I bet the techs can tell some chilling
stories. I could never deal with that job. Imagine the heartbreaking things
they see.

Sherry